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| studio = [[Atlantic Studios]] |
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| single1 = [[Hot Love (Twisted Sister song)|Hot Love]] |
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| single1date = June 26, 1987<ref>{{cite magazine |title=New This Week |magazine=The Hard Report |date=June 26, 1987 |issue=34 |page=7}}</ref> |
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'''''Love Is for Suckers''''' is the fifth studio [[album]] by the American [[Heavy metal music|heavy metal]] band [[Twisted Sister]]. It was released by [[Atlantic Records]] on August 13, 1987, with the single "Hot Love" being released on August 1. It was the band's last album before their breakup and subsequent reunion and release of ''[[Still Hungry (Twisted Sister album)|Still Hungry]]'' in 2004. It is also their last album to be composed of entirely new, as well as original material. |
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'''''Love Is for Suckers''''' is the fifth studio album by the American [[Heavy metal music|heavy metal]] band [[Twisted Sister]]. It was released by [[Atlantic Records]] on July 3, 1987.<ref>{{cite magazine |last=Rosenbluth |first=Jean |title=Sparklers light up July sked |magazine=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]] |date=July 4, 1987 |publisher=Billboard Publications, Inc. |volume=99 |issue=27 |page=4 |issn=0006-2510}}</ref> It was the band's last album before their breakup and subsequent reunion and release of ''[[Still Hungry (Twisted Sister album)|Still Hungry]]'' in 2004. It is also their last album to be composed of entirely new, original material. |
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==Overview== |
==Overview== |
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The sound of the album was strongly influenced by [[glam metal]], and was one of the causes of conflict which led to the band splitting after its release.<ref name="allmusic"/><ref name="archive1">{{cite web |url=http://www.sleazeroxx.com/interviews/deesnider.shtml |title=Dee Snider Interview |last=Mosqueda |first=Ruben |publisher=Sleaze Roxx.com |date= |
The sound of the album was strongly influenced by [[glam metal]], and was one of the causes of conflict which led to the band splitting after its release.<ref name="allmusic"/><ref name="archive1">{{cite web |url=http://www.sleazeroxx.com/interviews/deesnider.shtml |title=Dee Snider Interview |last=Mosqueda |first=Ruben |publisher=Sleaze Roxx.com |date=July 1, 2009 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120402022804/http://www.sleazeroxx.com/interviews/deesnider.shtml |archive-date=April 2, 2012 |accessdate=July 4, 2017 }}</ref> The band got rid of the more extreme elements of their look, to "fit in with every other [[hair metal]] band out there at that time".<ref>{{Cite web|date=August 12, 2017|first=Eduardo|last=Rivadavia|title=Twisted Sister Took Their Last Shot With 'Love Is for Suckers'|url=https://ultimateclassicrock.com/twisted-sister-love-is-for-suckers/|access-date=August 14, 2021|website=Ultimate Classic Rock|language=en}}</ref> According to interviews contained in the ''Live at Wacken'' DVD and in Snider's autobiography, the material was originally meant to be a solo album by Twisted Sister's lead singer, [[Dee Snider]], but the label pushed for it to be released under the Twisted Sister name instead. The tour for the album lasted just over one month and ended in Minneapolis, Minnesota on October 10, 1987. Two days later, on October 12, 1987, vocalist Dee Snider announced his departure from the band. |
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All the classic-era band members took part in recording sessions for the album, except drummer [[A. J. Pero]], who left the band in July 1986 and was replaced by [[Joey Franco]]. According to the album's producer [[Beau Hill]], guitarist [[Reb Beach]] played almost all of the guitars on the album. Hill had Beach, Ojeda and French all play the lead, rhythm and solo guitar parts of a song and he would then select the best performances. Although he wanted to use Twisted Sister's two guitarists where possible, Hill found that Beach, being "such an incredible guitar player", often provided the "strongest and most compelling performance".<ref>{{cite web |url=https://sleazeroxx.com/producer-beau-hill-thinks-reb-beach-played-90-of-guitars-on-twisted-sisters-love-is-for-suckers-album/ |title=Producer Beau Hill thinks Reb Beach played 90% of guitars on Twisted Sister's 'Love Is for Suckers' album |publisher=Sleaze Roxx |date=September 9, 2020 |access-date=December 20, 2023}}</ref> |
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All the original band members recorded this album, except drummer [[A. J. Pero]]. Pero played on all previous Twisted Sister albums and left the band in July 1986, though he came back for some reunion tours and special recordings. He was replaced for a short time by [[Joey Franco]]. |
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No songs from this album appeared on the band's 1992 greatest hits album ''[[Big Hits and Nasty Cuts]]''. It would be Twisted Sister's final studio album of original material, as all albums since have been compilations, live albums or re-recordings of already written material. |
No songs from this album appeared on the band's 1992 greatest hits album ''[[Big Hits and Nasty Cuts]]''. It would be Twisted Sister's final studio album of original material, as all albums since have been compilations, live albums or re-recordings of already written material. |
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Seven of the album's songs were played live during the brief 1987 tour.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.setlist.fm/stats/twisted-sister-63d69ec7.html?tour=Love+Is+For+Suckers|title=Twisted Sister Tour Statistics: Love Is For Suckers {{!}} setlist.fm|website=www.setlist.fm|access-date=2018 |
Seven of the album's songs were played live during the brief 1987 tour.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.setlist.fm/stats/twisted-sister-63d69ec7.html?tour=Love+Is+For+Suckers|title=Twisted Sister Tour Statistics: Love Is For Suckers {{!}} setlist.fm|website=www.setlist.fm|access-date=February 4, 2018}}</ref> Snider has stated that he likes many of the songs on the album, vocally. However he feels that if they play any of them live, it may bring back bad memories for the band. In 2012, the band introduced "Wake Up (The Sleeping Giant)" into their set, following demands from fans for material to be included from all of the band's studio albums.<ref name="youtube1">{{cite web|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKqscwG2-Q |title=Twisted Sister, Wake Up (the Sleeping Giant) - Live at Graspop 2012 |publisher=[[YouTube]] |date=June 26, 2012 |accessdate=June 4, 2017}}{{cbignore}}{{Dead Youtube links|date=February 2022}}</ref> |
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In a 1987 interview with ''[[Record Mirror]]'', Snider stated, "We haven't done many love songs before. Most of our songs have been about rebellion, but on ''Love Is for Suckers'' the songs are mainly about love, lust and sex. It's a very horny album. I get pretty excited every time I hear it."<ref>{{cite magazine |last=Smith |first=Robin |date=September 19, 1987 |title=Dee Time |magazine=[[Record Mirror]] |page=57 |issn=0144-5804}}</ref> At the time, Snider considered the album to be "more to our roots than previous records have been". He said, "I realised that the original concept for Twisted Sister was to be half heavy metal and half glam/glitter rock. As the years went on, we left the glitter/glam music behind and became more and more just heavy metal. So I went back listening to my early influences – [[Alice Cooper]], [[T. Rex (band)|T. Rex]], [[Slade]] and others – to get the band back to its roots."<ref>{{cite AV media |people=Dee Snider, Alex Gernandt |date=1987 |title=Hard 'n Heavy (Crash) |medium=TV |publisher=[[Music Box (TV channel)|Music Box]] (Germany)}}</ref> |
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In a 2009 interview by Ruben Mosqueda, Snider spoke of his thoughts on the album: {{quote|"There's some great stuff on there man! The thing is, that was supposed to be my first solo album. The thing was the record company and management pressured me into making it a Twisted Sister record. There's some stuff that was in the Twisted Sister vein but it was supposed to be a solo record, that album was meant to give the band the break we needed. I felt that by releasing a solo album I could put that out there, get it out my system, and then after a short break we could regroup and work on a new album. The recording, the promotion and touring of ''Love Is for Suckers'' went on to kill the band. Management and the record company in their infinite wisdom know best. Oh let's put five guys who can't stand each other in a studio for three months!"<ref name="archive1"/>}} |
In a 2009 interview by Ruben Mosqueda, Snider spoke of his thoughts on the album: {{quote|"There's some great stuff on there man! The thing is, that was supposed to be my first solo album. The thing was the record company and management pressured me into making it a Twisted Sister record. There's some stuff that was in the Twisted Sister vein but it was supposed to be a solo record, that album was meant to give the band the break we needed. I felt that by releasing a solo album I could put that out there, get it out my system, and then after a short break we could regroup and work on a new album. The recording, the promotion and touring of ''Love Is for Suckers'' went on to kill the band. Management and the record company in their infinite wisdom know best. Oh let's put five guys who can't stand each other in a studio for three months!"<ref name="archive1"/>}} |
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In 2012, Dee Snider commented to an audience at the annual concert festival in Dessel Belgium, known as the Graspop Metal Meeting, "Now we have been accused in the past of not playing stuff from all of our albums, so this year we added one song from the ''Love Is for Suckers'' record to the set [...] for those who know in the 80s, there was a little problem in Washington with censorship and this one was a big middle finger to Washington D.C. It's called "Wake Up (the Sleeping Giant)"" |
In 2012, Dee Snider commented to an audience at the annual concert festival in Dessel Belgium, known as the Graspop Metal Meeting, "Now we have been accused in the past of not playing stuff from all of our albums, so this year we added one song from the ''Love Is for Suckers'' record to the set [...] for those who know in the 80s, there was a little problem in Washington with censorship and this one was a big middle finger to Washington D.C. It's called "Wake Up (the Sleeping Giant)."" The band then performed that song.<ref name="youtube1"/> |
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==Critical reception== |
==Critical reception== |
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|rev1 = [[AllMusic]] |
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|rev1score = {{Rating|2|5}}<ref name="allmusic">{{cite web |url=http://www.allmusic.com/album/love-is-for-suckers-mw0000196686 |title=Twisted Sister - Love I for Suckers review |last=Prato |first=Greg |work=[[AllMusic]] |publisher=[[All Media Network]] |accessdate=2017 |
|rev1score = {{Rating|2|5}}<ref name="allmusic">{{cite web |url=http://www.allmusic.com/album/love-is-for-suckers-mw0000196686 |title=Twisted Sister - Love I for Suckers review |last=Prato |first=Greg |work=[[AllMusic]] |publisher=[[All Media Network]] |accessdate=July 4, 2017 }}</ref> |
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|rev2 = ''[[Martin Popoff|Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal]]'' |
|rev2 = ''[[Martin Popoff|Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal]]'' |
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|rev2Score = 4/10<ref>{{cite book | last1 = Popoff | first1 = Martin | author-link1 = Martin Popoff | title = The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal: Volume 2: The Eighties | publisher = [[Collector's Guide Publishing]] | date = |
|rev2Score = 4/10<ref>{{cite book | last1 = Popoff | first1 = Martin | author-link1 = Martin Popoff | title = The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal: Volume 2: The Eighties | publisher = [[Collector's Guide Publishing]] | date = November 1, 2005 | location = [[Burlington, Ontario]], [[Canada]] | isbn = 978-1894959315 | pages= 369–370}}</ref> |
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|rev3 = ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' |
|rev3 = ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' |
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|rev3score = {{Rating|3|5}}<ref name="Liveten">{{cite news |date=September 20, 1987 |last=Liveten |first= Sharon |url= |
|rev3score = {{Rating|3|5}}<ref name="Liveten">{{cite news |date=September 20, 1987 |last=Liveten |first= Sharon |url=https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-09-20-ca-9324-story.html |title=* * * * Great Balls of Fire * * * Good Vibrations * * Maybe Baby * Running on Empty : : Hard-Rock Clowns|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]] |access-date=June 4, 2017}}</ref> |
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|rev4 = ''[[The Record (North Jersey)|The Record]]'' |
|rev4 = ''[[The Record (North Jersey)|The Record]]'' |
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|rev4score = {{Rating|1|4}}<ref name="Jaeger">{{cite news|last=Jaeger|first=Barbara|date=August 27, 1987|title=Hard times for hard rockers: Def Leppard's run of luck|newspaper=The Record}}</ref> |
|rev4score = {{Rating|1|4}}<ref name="Jaeger">{{cite news|last=Jaeger|first=Barbara|date=August 27, 1987|title=Hard times for hard rockers: Def Leppard's run of luck|newspaper=The Record}}</ref> |
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Upon its release, ''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]'' wrote: "Longtime New York-based rockers stumbled with last release but have managed to catch their balance on this one, with a new producer and new attitude. Album is chock-full of sturdy, straightforward cuts."<ref>{{cite magazine|date=July 11, 1987| |
Upon its release, ''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]'' wrote: "Longtime New York-based rockers stumbled with last release but have managed to catch their balance on this one, with a new producer and new attitude. Album is chock-full of sturdy, straightforward cuts."<ref>{{cite magazine |title=Album Reviews |magazine=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]] |date=July 11, 1987 |publisher=Billboard Publications, Inc. |volume=99 |issue=28 |page=64 |issn=0006-2510}}</ref> Sharon Liveten of the ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' wrote: "On its fifth album, Twisted Sister doesn't tromp off into uncharted territory. It's anthemic, occasionally repetitive and self-derivative. That said, ''Love Is for Suckers'' is a darned good album. The guitar work is flashy but doesn't resort to clichéd posturing and Dee Snider's vocals are in fine, sneering form."<ref name="Liveten">{{cite news |date=September 20, 1987 |last=Liveten |first= Sharon |url=https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-09-20-ca-9324-story.html |title=* * * * Great Balls of Fire * * * Good Vibrations * * Maybe Baby * Running on Empty : : Hard-Rock Clowns|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]] |access-date=June 4, 2017}}</ref> |
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Robin Welles of ''[[Oxnard Press-Courier|The Press-Courier]]'' described ''Love Is for Suckers'' as "a screamer of an album".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Twisted Sister - "Love Is for Suckers" (Atlantic) |journal=[[Oxnard Press-Courier|The Press-Courier]] |date= |
Robin Welles of ''[[Oxnard Press-Courier|The Press-Courier]]'' described ''Love Is for Suckers'' as "a screamer of an album".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Twisted Sister - "Love Is for Suckers" (Atlantic) |journal=[[Oxnard Press-Courier|The Press-Courier]] |date=September 6, 1987 |last=Welles |first=Robin |volume=51 |issue=62 |page=14 |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=LcFdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=M14NAAAAIBAJ&pg=5554,1135368&dq=twisted+sister+love+suckers&hl=en |accessdate=July 4, 2017 }}</ref> Pete Bishop of the ''[[Pittsburgh Press]]'' commented: "This is cliche-cluttered, "commercial" heavy metal designed for instant acceptance. Seven of the cuts are the same wham-bam-party-hearty stuff Twisted Sister and so many others have defrosted and reheated ad nauseam." He selected "Hot Love", "One Bad Habit" and "You Are All That I Need" as "the class of the disc because they dare to differ from the formula and because Twisted Sister performs them well."<ref name="pit">{{cite journal |title=Twisted Sister - "Love Is for Suckers" |journal=[[Pittsburgh Press]] |date=August 23, 1987 |last=Bishop |first=Pete |volume=104 |issue=60 |page=J6 |url=https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=H94cAAAAIBAJ&sjid=SWMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6890,4490979&dq=twisted+sister+love+suckers&hl=en |accessdate=July 4, 2017 }}</ref> |
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Michael Dowding of ''[[The Boston Globe]]'' wrote: "Unfortunately, this album sounds like a band in decline. There's still enough thump and screech to keep the Saturday night party going, but don't look for any development or innovation. For fans, the best cuts include "Wake Up" and "One Bad Habit". For many other listeners, though, this is an album to avoid."<ref>{{cite news|last=Dowding|first=Michael|date=October 8, 1987|title=Records|newspaper=The Boston Globe}}</ref> Barbara Jaeger of ''[[The Record (North Jersey)|The Record]]'' wrote: "The 10 songs on this collection sound like every other song the band has done. Underscoring the overwrought vocals of Dee Snider are screechy guitars and thunderous drums. The songs, with their sophomoric lyrics, cover the usual heavy-metal topics. So, if you're looking for something new, forget about this one."<ref name="Jaeger">{{cite news|last=Jaeger|first=Barbara|date=August 27, 1987|title=Hard times for hard rockers: Def Leppard's run of luck|newspaper=The Record}}</ref> Keith Carman from Exclaim!, gave the album a highly negative review, stating, "This isn't even for suckers; it just sucks."<ref>{{Cite web|title=Twisted Sister Love is for Suckers {{!}} Exclaim!|url=https://exclaim.ca/music/article/twisted_sister-love_is_for_suckers|access-date= |
Michael Dowding of ''[[The Boston Globe]]'' wrote: "Unfortunately, this album sounds like a band in decline. There's still enough thump and screech to keep the Saturday night party going, but don't look for any development or innovation. For fans, the best cuts include "Wake Up" and "One Bad Habit". For many other listeners, though, this is an album to avoid."<ref>{{cite news|last=Dowding|first=Michael|date=October 8, 1987|title=Records|newspaper=The Boston Globe}}</ref> Barbara Jaeger of ''[[The Record (North Jersey)|The Record]]'' wrote: "The 10 songs on this collection sound like every other song the band has done. Underscoring the overwrought vocals of Dee Snider are screechy guitars and thunderous drums. The songs, with their sophomoric lyrics, cover the usual heavy-metal topics. So, if you're looking for something new, forget about this one."<ref name="Jaeger">{{cite news|last=Jaeger|first=Barbara|date=August 27, 1987|title=Hard times for hard rockers: Def Leppard's run of luck|newspaper=The Record}}</ref> Keith Carman from Exclaim!, gave the album a highly negative review, stating, "This isn't even for suckers; it just sucks."<ref>{{Cite web|title=Twisted Sister Love is for Suckers {{!}} Exclaim!|url=https://exclaim.ca/music/article/twisted_sister-love_is_for_suckers|access-date=August 14, 2021|website=exclaim.ca|language=en-ca}}</ref> |
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==Track listing== |
==Track listing== |
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{{Track listing |
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All songs written by [[Dee Snider]], except where noted. |
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| title1 = Wake Up (The Sleeping Giant) |
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| length1 = 4:19 |
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# "[[Hot Love (Twisted Sister song)|Hot Love]]" – 3:28 |
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| title2 = [[Hot Love (Twisted Sister song)|Hot Love]] |
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# "Love Is for Suckers" (Poison Dollys cover) (Marky Carter, Dee Snider) – 3:25 |
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| length2 = 3:28 |
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# "I'm So Hot for You" – 4:05 |
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| title3 = Love Is for Suckers |
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# "Tonight" – 3:51 |
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| note3 = Poison Dollys cover |
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| writer3 = Marky Carter, Dee Snider |
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| length3 = 3:25 |
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# <li value=6>"Me and the Boys" – 3:52 |
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| title4 = I'm So Hot for You |
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# "One Bad Habit" – 3:18 |
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| length4 = 4:05 |
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# "I Want This Night (To Last Forever)" (Mark Tanner, Marty Wagner, Dee Snider) – 4:18 |
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| title5 = Tonight |
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# "You Are All That I Need" – 4:17 |
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| length5 = 3:51 |
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# "Yeah Right" – 3:14 |
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===1999 [[Spitfire Records]] reissue bonus tracks=== |
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| headline = Side two |
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#<li value=11>"Feel Appeal" – 3:19 |
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| title6 = Me and the Boys |
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#"Statutory Date" – 3:11 |
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| length6 = 3:52 |
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#"If That's What You Want" – 4:25 |
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| title7 = One Bad Habit |
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#"I Will Win" – 3:29 |
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| length7 = 3:18 |
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| title8 = I Want This Night (To Last Forever) |
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| writer8 = Mark Tanner, Marty Wagner, Dee Snider |
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| length8 = 4:18 |
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| title9 = You Are All That I Need |
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| length9 = 4:17 |
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| title10 = Yeah Right |
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| length10 = 3:14 |
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{{Track listing |
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| headline = 1999 [[Spitfire Records]] reissue bonus tracks |
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| title11 = Feel Appeal |
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| length11 = 3:19 |
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| title12 = Statutory Date |
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| length12 = 3:11 |
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| title13 = If That's What You Want |
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| length13 = 4:25 |
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| title14 = I Will Win |
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| length14 = 3:29 |
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'''Note:''' the reissue bonus tracks were later released as a separate EP in 2021 titled: ''Feel Appeal: Love Is for Suckers Extras''. |
'''Note:''' the reissue bonus tracks were later released as a separate EP in 2021 titled: ''Feel Appeal: Love Is for Suckers Extras''. |
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===Twisted Sister=== |
===Twisted Sister=== |
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*[[Dee Snider]] – lead vocals |
*[[Dee Snider]] – lead vocals |
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*[[Eddie Ojeda|Eddie "Fingers" Ojeda]] |
*[[Eddie Ojeda|Eddie "Fingers" Ojeda]] – lead & rhythm guitar, backing vocals |
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*[[Jay Jay French]] |
*[[Jay Jay French]] – rhythm & lead guitar, backing vocals |
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*[[Mark Mendoza|Mark "The Animal" Mendoza]] – bass, backing vocals |
*[[Mark Mendoza|Mark "The Animal" Mendoza]] – bass, backing vocals |
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*[[Joey Franco|Joey "Seven" Franco]] – drums, percussion |
*[[Joey Franco|Joey "Seven" Franco]] – drums, percussion |
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*The New West Horns – horns |
*The New West Horns – horns |
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*Jimmy Chalfant, [[Steve Whiteman]], [[Kip Winger]] – backing vocals |
*Jimmy Chalfant, [[Steve Whiteman]], [[Kip Winger]] – backing vocals |
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*Bob Gamm, Gary Kris, B. Smith, Chris Cintron, Joe Gerber, Jodie Segall, Peter Love, [[Luke Perry]] |
*Bob Gamm, Gary Kris, B. Smith, Chris Cintron, Joe Gerber, Jodie Segall, Peter Love, [[Luke Perry]] – additional shouts |
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===Production=== |
===Production=== |
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*Beau Hill |
*Beau Hill – producer, engineer |
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*Twisted Sister, Beau Hill, Reb Beach, [[Ronni Le Tekrø]] |
*Twisted Sister, Beau Hill, Reb Beach, [[Ronni Le Tekrø]] – arrangements |
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*Stephen Benben |
*Stephen Benben – engineer |
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*Ira McLaughlin |
*Ira McLaughlin – assistant engineer |
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*[[Ted Jensen]] |
*[[Ted Jensen]] – mastering at [[Sterling Sound]], New York |
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*Bob Defrin |
*Bob Defrin – art direction |
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*Frank Moscati |
*Frank Moscati – photography |
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*Dee Snider |
*Dee Snider – cover concept |
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==Charts== |
==Charts== |
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|Australia ([[Kent Music Report]])<ref name=aus>{{cite book|last=Kent|first=David|author-link=David Kent (historian)|title=Australian Chart Book 1970–1992|edition=illustrated|publisher=Australian Chart Book|location=St Ives, N.S.W.|year=1993|isbn=0-646-11917-6|page=315}}</ref> |
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! scope="row"| Australian Albums ([[Kent Music Report]])<ref name=aus>{{cite book|last=Kent|first=David|author-link=David Kent (historian)|title=Australian Chart Book 1970–1992|edition=illustrated|publisher=Australian Chart Book|location=St Ives, N.S.W.|year=1993|isbn=0-646-11917-6}}</ref> |
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|align="center"|[[VG-lista|Norwegian Albums Chart]]<ref>{{cite web |url= http://norwegiancharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Twisted+Sister&titel=Love+Is+For+Suckers&cat=a |title=Twisted Sister – Love Is for Suckers (Album) |accessdate=4 July 2017 |work=Norwegiancharts.com |publisher=[[Media Control Charts]] }}</ref> |
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{{Album chart|Canada|78|chartid=0852|artist=Twisted Sister|album=Love Is for Suckers|rowheader=true|accessdate=October 30, 2023}} |
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|align="center"|[[Swiss Hitparade|Swiss Albums Top 100]]<ref>{{cite web | url = http://hitparade.ch/album/Twisted-Sister/Love-Is-For-Suckers-587| title = Twisted Sister – Love Is for Suckers | accessdate = 4 July 2017 | work = Hitparade.ch | publisher = [[Media Control Charts]]|language= de}}</ref> |
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|align="center"|[[Sverigetopplistan|Swedish Albums Chart]]<ref>{{cite web |url= http://swedishcharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Twisted+Sister&titel=Love+Is+For+Suckers&cat=a |title=Twisted Sister – Love Is for Suckers (Album) |accessdate=4 July 2017|work=Swedishcharts.com |publisher=[[Media Control Charts]] }}</ref> |
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|align="center"|[[UK Albums Chart]]<ref name="GB" >{{cite web |url=http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/20262/twisted%20sister/ |title=Twisted Sister Official Charts |publisher=[[Official Charts Company]] |accessdate=October 28, 2016 }}</ref> |
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|align="center"|[[GfK Entertainment Charts|German Albums Chart]]<ref>{{cite web |url= https://www.offiziellecharts.de/album-details-587|title=Album – Twisted Sister, Love Is for Suckers |work=Charts.de |publisher=[[Media Control Charts]] |accessdate=4 July 2017 |language=de}}</ref> |
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|align="center"|[[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]] (USA)<ref name="US" >{{cite web |url=http://www.billboard.com/artist/430590/twisted-sister/chart?f=305 |title=Twisted Sister Chart History – Billboard 200 |work=Billboard.com |publisher=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]] |accessdate=October 31, 2016 }}</ref> |
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|align="center"|[[RPM100]] (Canada)<ref>{{cite web | url = http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/films-videos-sound-recordings/rpm/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=547& | title = Top Albums/CDs - Volume 46, No. 21, August 29, 1987| accessdate = 4 July 2017| date = 29 August 1987 | publisher = [[Library and Archives Canada]]}}</ref> |
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|align="center"|[[Mainstream Rock (chart)|Mainstream Rock]] (USA)<ref name="US main" >{{cite web |url=http://www.billboard.com/artist/430590/twisted-sister/chart?f=376 |title=Twisted Sister Chart History – Mainstream Rock Songs |work=Billboard.com |publisher=[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]] |accessdate=November 1, 2016 }}</ref> |
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==References== |
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| Released | July 3, 1987 | |||
| Studio | Atlantic (New York City) | |||
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| Length | 38:07 | |||
| Label | Atlantic | |||
| Producer | Beau Hill | |||
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Love Is for Suckers is the fifth studio album by the American heavy metal band Twisted Sister. It was released by Atlantic Records on July 3, 1987.[4] It was the band's last album before their breakup and subsequent reunion and release of Still Hungry in 2004. It is also their last album to be composed of entirely new, original material.
Overview
[edit]The sound of the album was strongly influenced by glam metal, and was one of the causes of conflict which led to the band splitting after its release.[2][5] The band got rid of the more extreme elements of their look, to "fit in with every other hair metal band out there at that time".[6] According to interviews contained in the Live at Wacken DVD and in Snider's autobiography, the material was originally meant to be a solo album by Twisted Sister's lead singer, Dee Snider, but the label pushed for it to be released under the Twisted Sister name instead. The tour for the album lasted just over one month and ended in Minneapolis, Minnesota on October 10, 1987. Two days later, on October 12, 1987, vocalist Dee Snider announced his departure from the band.
All the classic-era band members took part in recording sessions for the album, except drummer A. J. Pero, who left the band in July 1986 and was replaced by Joey Franco. According to the album's producer Beau Hill, guitarist Reb Beach played almost all of the guitars on the album. Hill had Beach, Ojeda and French all play the lead, rhythm and solo guitar parts of a song and he would then select the best performances. Although he wanted to use Twisted Sister's two guitarists where possible, Hill found that Beach, being "such an incredible guitar player", often provided the "strongest and most compelling performance".[7]
No songs from this album appeared on the band's 1992 greatest hits album Big Hits and Nasty Cuts. It would be Twisted Sister's final studio album of original material, as all albums since have been compilations, live albums or re-recordings of already written material.
Seven of the album's songs were played live during the brief 1987 tour.[8] Snider has stated that he likes many of the songs on the album, vocally. However he feels that if they play any of them live, it may bring back bad memories for the band. In 2012, the band introduced "Wake Up (The Sleeping Giant)" into their set, following demands from fans for material to be included from all of the band's studio albums.[9]
In a 1987 interview with Record Mirror, Snider stated, "We haven't done many love songs before. Most of our songs have been about rebellion, but on Love Is for Suckers the songs are mainly about love, lust and sex. It's a very horny album. I get pretty excited every time I hear it."[10] At the time, Snider considered the album to be "more to our roots than previous records have been". He said, "I realised that the original concept for Twisted Sister was to be half heavy metal and half glam/glitter rock. As the years went on, we left the glitter/glam music behind and became more and more just heavy metal. So I went back listening to my early influences – Alice Cooper, T. Rex, Slade and others – to get the band back to its roots."[11]
In a 2009 interview by Ruben Mosqueda, Snider spoke of his thoughts on the album:
"There's some great stuff on there man! The thing is, that was supposed to be my first solo album. The thing was the record company and management pressured me into making it a Twisted Sister record. There's some stuff that was in the Twisted Sister vein but it was supposed to be a solo record, that album was meant to give the band the break we needed. I felt that by releasing a solo album I could put that out there, get it out my system, and then after a short break we could regroup and work on a new album. The recording, the promotion and touring of Love Is for Suckers went on to kill the band. Management and the record company in their infinite wisdom know best. Oh let's put five guys who can't stand each other in a studio for three months!"[5]
In 2012, Dee Snider commented to an audience at the annual concert festival in Dessel Belgium, known as the Graspop Metal Meeting, "Now we have been accused in the past of not playing stuff from all of our albums, so this year we added one song from the Love Is for Suckers record to the set [...] for those who know in the 80s, there was a little problem in Washington with censorship and this one was a big middle finger to Washington D.C. It's called "Wake Up (the Sleeping Giant)."" The band then performed that song.[9]
Critical reception
[edit]| Review scores | |
|---|---|
| Source | Rating |
| AllMusic |   [2] |
| Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal | 4/10[12] |
| Los Angeles Times | [13] |
| The Record | [14] |
Upon its release, Billboard wrote: "Longtime New York-based rockers stumbled with last release but have managed to catch their balance on this one, with a new producer and new attitude. Album is chock-full of sturdy, straightforward cuts."[15] Sharon Liveten of the Los Angeles Times wrote: "On its fifth album, Twisted Sister doesn't tromp off into uncharted territory. It's anthemic, occasionally repetitive and self-derivative. That said, Love Is for Suckers is a darned good album. The guitar work is flashy but doesn't resort to clichéd posturing and Dee Snider's vocals are in fine, sneering form."[13]
Robin Welles of The Press-Courier described Love Is for Suckers as "a screamer of an album".[16] Pete Bishop of the Pittsburgh Press commented: "This is cliche-cluttered, "commercial" heavy metal designed for instant acceptance. Seven of the cuts are the same wham-bam-party-hearty stuff Twisted Sister and so many others have defrosted and reheated ad nauseam." He selected "Hot Love", "One Bad Habit" and "You Are All That I Need" as "the class of the disc because they dare to differ from the formula and because Twisted Sister performs them well."[1]
Michael Dowding of The Boston Globe wrote: "Unfortunately, this album sounds like a band in decline. There's still enough thump and screech to keep the Saturday night party going, but don't look for any development or innovation. For fans, the best cuts include "Wake Up" and "One Bad Habit". For many other listeners, though, this is an album to avoid."[17] Barbara Jaeger of The Record wrote: "The 10 songs on this collection sound like every other song the band has done. Underscoring the overwrought vocals of Dee Snider are screechy guitars and thunderous drums. The songs, with their sophomoric lyrics, cover the usual heavy-metal topics. So, if you're looking for something new, forget about this one."[14] Keith Carman from Exclaim!, gave the album a highly negative review, stating, "This isn't even for suckers; it just sucks."[18]
Track listing
[edit]All tracks are written by Dee Snider, except where noted
| No. | Title | Writer(s) | Length |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1. | "Wake Up (The Sleeping Giant)" | 4:19 | |
| 2. | "Hot Love" | 3:28 | |
| 3. | "Love Is for Suckers" (Poison Dollys cover) | Marky Carter, Dee Snider | 3:25 |
| 4. | "I'm So Hot for You" | 4:05 | |
| 5. | "Tonight" | 3:51 |
| No. | Title | Writer(s) | Length |
|---|---|---|---|
| 6. | "Me and the Boys" | 3:52 | |
| 7. | "One Bad Habit" | 3:18 | |
| 8. | "I Want This Night (To Last Forever)" | Mark Tanner, Marty Wagner, Dee Snider | 4:18 |
| 9. | "You Are All That I Need" | 4:17 | |
| 10. | "Yeah Right" | 3:14 |
| No. | Title | Length |
|---|---|---|
| 11. | "Feel Appeal" | 3:19 |
| 12. | "Statutory Date" | 3:11 |
| 13. | "If That's What You Want" | 4:25 |
| 14. | "I Will Win" | 3:29 |
Note: the reissue bonus tracks were later released as a separate EP in 2021 titled: Feel Appeal: Love Is for Suckers Extras.
Personnel
[edit]Twisted Sister
[edit]- Dee Snider – lead vocals
- Eddie "Fingers" Ojeda – lead & rhythm guitar, backing vocals
- Jay Jay French – rhythm & lead guitar, backing vocals
- Mark "The Animal" Mendoza – bass, backing vocals
- Joey "Seven" Franco – drums, percussion
Additional musicians
[edit]- Reb Beach – additional guitars, additional shouts
- Beau Hill – keyboards, backing vocals
- The New West Horns – horns
- Jimmy Chalfant, Steve Whiteman, Kip Winger – backing vocals
- Bob Gamm, Gary Kris, B. Smith, Chris Cintron, Joe Gerber, Jodie Segall, Peter Love, Luke Perry – additional shouts
Production
[edit]- Beau Hill – producer, engineer
- Twisted Sister, Beau Hill, Reb Beach, Ronni Le Tekrø – arrangements
- Stephen Benben – engineer
- Ira McLaughlin – assistant engineer
- Ted Jensen – mastering at Sterling Sound, New York
- Bob Defrin – art direction
- Frank Moscati – photography
- Dee Snider – cover concept
Charts
[edit]| Chart (1987) | Peak position |
|---|---|
| Australian Albums (Kent Music Report)[19] | 82 |
| Canada Top Albums/CDs (RPM)[20] | 78 |
| Finnish Albums (The Official Finnish Charts)[21] | 16 |
| German Albums (Offizielle Top 100)[22] | 59 |
| Norwegian Albums (VG-lista)[23] | 11 |
| Swedish Albums (Sverigetopplistan)[24] | 43 |
| Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade)[25] | 17 |
| UK Albums (OCC)[26] | 57 |
| US Billboard 200[27] | 74 |
| US Cash Box Top 100 Albums[28] | 60 |
| US AOR Albums (Radio & Records)[29] | 40 |
References
[edit]- ^ a b Bishop, Pete (August 23, 1987). "Twisted Sister - "Love Is for Suckers"". Pittsburgh Press. 104 (60): J6. Retrieved July 4, 2017.
- ^ a b c Prato, Greg. "Twisted Sister - Love I for Suckers review". AllMusic. All Media Network. Retrieved July 4, 2017.
- ^ "New This Week". The Hard Report. No. 34. June 26, 1987. p. 7.
- ^ Rosenbluth, Jean (July 4, 1987). "Sparklers light up July sked". Billboard. Vol. 99, no. 27. Billboard Publications, Inc. p. 4. ISSN 0006-2510.
- ^ a b Mosqueda, Ruben (July 1, 2009). "Dee Snider Interview". Sleaze Roxx.com. Archived from the original on April 2, 2012. Retrieved July 4, 2017.
- ^ Rivadavia, Eduardo (August 12, 2017). "Twisted Sister Took Their Last Shot With 'Love Is for Suckers'". Ultimate Classic Rock. Retrieved August 14, 2021.
- ^ "Producer Beau Hill thinks Reb Beach played 90% of guitars on Twisted Sister's 'Love Is for Suckers' album". Sleaze Roxx. September 9, 2020. Retrieved December 20, 2023.
- ^ "Twisted Sister Tour Statistics: Love Is For Suckers | setlist.fm". www.setlist.fm. Retrieved February 4, 2018.
- ^ a b "Twisted Sister, Wake Up (the Sleeping Giant) - Live at Graspop 2012". YouTube. June 26, 2012. Retrieved June 4, 2017.[dead YouTube link]
- ^ Smith, Robin (September 19, 1987). "Dee Time". Record Mirror. p. 57. ISSN 0144-5804.
- ^ Dee Snider, Alex Gernandt (1987). Hard 'n Heavy (Crash) (TV). Music Box (Germany).
- ^ Popoff, Martin (November 1, 2005). The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal: Volume 2: The Eighties. Burlington, Ontario, Canada: Collector's Guide Publishing. pp. 369–370. ISBN 978-1894959315.
- ^ a b Liveten, Sharon (September 20, 1987). "* * * * Great Balls of Fire * * * Good Vibrations * * Maybe Baby * Running on Empty : : Hard-Rock Clowns". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved June 4, 2017.
- ^ a b Jaeger, Barbara (August 27, 1987). "Hard times for hard rockers: Def Leppard's run of luck". The Record.
- ^ "Album Reviews". Billboard. Vol. 99, no. 28. Billboard Publications, Inc. July 11, 1987. p. 64. ISSN 0006-2510.
- ^ Welles, Robin (September 6, 1987). "Twisted Sister - "Love Is for Suckers" (Atlantic)". The Press-Courier. 51 (62): 14. Retrieved July 4, 2017.
- ^ Dowding, Michael (October 8, 1987). "Records". The Boston Globe.
- ^ "Twisted Sister Love is for Suckers | Exclaim!". exclaim.ca. Retrieved August 14, 2021.
- ^ Kent, David (1993). Australian Chart Book 1970–1992 (illustrated ed.). St Ives, N.S.W.: Australian Chart Book. ISBN 0-646-11917-6.
- ^ "Top RPM Albums: Issue 0852". RPM. Library and Archives Canada. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
- ^ Pennanen, Timo (2006). Sisältää hitin – levyt ja esittäjät Suomen musiikkilistoilla vuodesta 1972 (in Finnish) (1st ed.). Helsinki: Kustannusosakeyhtiö Otava. ISBN 978-951-1-21053-5.
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- ^ "Norwegiancharts.com – Twisted Sister – Love Is for Suckers". Hung Medien. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
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- ^ "National Airplay: AOR Albums". Radio & Records. No. 698. Radio & Records, Inc. August 7, 1987. p. 76. ISSN 0277-4860.
