Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Benji Krol

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. I see a consensus to Delete this article. Editors can work on a new version in Draft space as long as it is free of BLP problems, and submit it to AFC for review to see if it has overcome problems with sourcing mentioned in this discussion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:40, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Benji Krol

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declined and rejected at WP:AFC but moved to main space, fails WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 18:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Brazil. Theroadislong (talk) 18:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. The author has confirmed a connection with Benji Krol's manager, where they said: its just that i was emailing with krol's manager and i wanted it to be perfect in this comment on their user talk page. Svampesky (talk) 19:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

  Sammy that is something I was not aware of, I just edited the page and moved because the person does have notability. 30 million followers on TikTok is not a low amount in my point of view. But as I said I was not aware of that. And I also have nothing to do with that author just to be clear. Meio2934 (talk) 19:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

  As you can see here TikTok He does have notability in the public. Charlie D’amelio also came from the same source Meio2934 (talk) 19:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

The number of TikTok followers has absolutely no influence on notability. Theroadislong (talk) 21:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

In response to your assertion that TikTok follower count has no bearing on notability, it’s all in perspective, for you someone could have no notability in your eyes. But in someone’s else’s yes. While follower count alone does not define notability in its entirety, it can significantly contribute to a person’s influence and public recognition. For example, individuals like Charli D’Amelio have used her substantial TikTok followings to build successful careers, attract media attention, and secure partnerships with major brands.

Follower count serves as a metric for reach and impact, both of which are essential elements of notability. Meio2934 (talk) 22:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

No they are not...please read WP:GNG. Theroadislong (talk) 22:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes they are, not in it’s entirely but they are. Someone can have notability without follower and can also have with it. Meio2934 (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I do understand what you are saying whatsoever, but follower do count as a form of notability. Not enough for a Wikipedia page but it is a form of notability. Meio2934 (talk) 22:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Clearly we are discussing notability in Wikipedia terms here! Theroadislong (talk) 22:19, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: very weak sourcing and major WP:BLP problems. Restricting attention to the best available sources give us a WP:BLP1E situation at best. 100.36.106.199 (talk) 01:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
• Comment. I've made an effort to remove the poorly sourced content, including the removal of non-notable names who were accused of crimes, editorializing, original research, and content sourced from user-generated content. The article is a WP:BLP1E as the only reliable sourcing that would establish notability for Krol is about allegations of child sexual misconduct, with one source labelling it sexual assault by saying: accused of sexually assaulting a minor online. As it stands, the article is dangerously close to becoming an WP:ATTACK page. I think this AfD should be withdrawn and the article WP:G10'd. Svampesky (talk) 02:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  For the ease of administrators viewing this, I think that a comment ending "the article [should be] G10'd" should being "Speedy delete" instead of "Comment" ;). 100.36.106.199 (talk) 12:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  In fact, because I've !voted above, the comment might look like votestacking. I've striked out the sentence. Svampesky (talk) 14:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

  Oh I see, I missed that -- sorry! 100.36.106.199 (talk) 14:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete fails WP:GNG and is very poorly sourced. And I removed the allegations section per BLP, poor sourcing. We don't include allegations of that nature without high-quality sources. Isaidnoway (talk) 08:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.