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==Old stuff==
How is the Cessna a sub-heading of the bird? [[User:Skydot|SkyDot]] 19:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


*''The consistency of the existence of strongly inaccessible cardinals can not be proved under ZFC.''

**Is that correct? I thought the existence of strongly inaccessible cardinals can (provably) not be proved, while it is open whether their non-existence can be proved. In other words, "the consistency of the existence of strongly inaccessible cardinals" has not yet been proved while the consistency of their non-existence has been proved.
:::Yes, your version is correct. That existence of inacc. cardinals cannot be proved is a direct consequence of the 2nd incompleteness theorem (one observes that the set of all sets with rank less than that of an inacc. cardinal form a model of ZFC). Incidentally, wouldn't it be better to have the main article at [[Cardinal number]]? "Cardinal" has a pretty well-defined religious meaning as well, and "cardinal number" is not outdated.

::::not to mention the bird. And the baseball team.--MichaelTinkler
:::::Ok, I'm convinced. Cardinal number it is. --AxelBoldt
:::::::As this refers to a subdivision/less obvious definition of the term, could it be emphasised that it is the number that is being referred to, not a religious person being away from their phone (g). [[User:Jackiespeel|Jackiespeel]] 18:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

==Deleting Mike Cline Contributions==
I am deleting or reverting any contributions I have previously made to this article for the following reason. I work for a company that practices and teaches Strategic Planning methodologies thus making my contribution to any article related to Strategy topics a conflict of interest an in violation of Wikipedia Conflict of Interest guidelines [[WP:COI]] --[[User:Mike Cline|Mike Cline]] 13:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Cardinal is also a popular swiss beer brand, should I add it?

==Revert==
Anon. IP removed a link with no explanation. I reverted. -- [[User:Secisek|SECisek]] 01:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

==Requested move==
[[Cardinal]] → [[Cardinal (disambiguation)]] — We should really give the main article to what is now [[Cardinal (Catholicism)]]. A look at "what links here" shows this is overwhemingly the main use involved. The mathmatical use is at [[Cardinal number]], & if there were a predominant sports team using the term they could have "Cardinals" (I don't have a view on that). Few people can really link to "Cardinal" when they mean "cardinal bird", and the other uses are minor. This page should herefore become "Cardinal (disambiguation)" —[[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] 20:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Please centralize voting and discussion at the survey at [[Talk:Cardinal_%28Catholicism%29#Requested_move]] [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] 23:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

:''A move proposal for this page was listed at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]], but there was no consensus found for the move. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]][[User talk:Dekimasu|<span style="color:darkgreen; font-size:smaller;">よ!</span>]] 00:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC) ''

== Passenger Train Entry ==

The passenger train entry reads “''Cardinal'' (passenger train), an Amtrak route connecting Chicago with New York via Cincinnati and Washington” -- it mentions Cincinnati and Washington to avoid confusion with Amtrak’s other Chicago-New York routes:
* ''Lake Shore Limited'' (18h 45m)
* ''Pennsylvanian'' and ''Capitol Limited'' (19h)
* ''Regional Service'' and ''Capitol Limited'' (21h)
For reference purposes, note that the ''Cardinal'' service is 28h 50m. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.205.54.39|69.205.54.39]] ([[User talk:69.205.54.39|talk]]) 13:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Move discussion in progress==
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Latest revision as of 15:00, 20 August 2024

Old stuff

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How is the Cessna a sub-heading of the bird? SkyDot 19:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • The consistency of the existence of strongly inaccessible cardinals can not be proved under ZFC.
    • Is that correct? I thought the existence of strongly inaccessible cardinals can (provably) not be proved, while it is open whether their non-existence can be proved. In other words, "the consistency of the existence of strongly inaccessible cardinals" has not yet been proved while the consistency of their non-existence has been proved.
Yes, your version is correct. That existence of inacc. cardinals cannot be proved is a direct consequence of the 2nd incompleteness theorem (one observes that the set of all sets with rank less than that of an inacc. cardinal form a model of ZFC). Incidentally, wouldn't it be better to have the main article at Cardinal number? "Cardinal" has a pretty well-defined religious meaning as well, and "cardinal number" is not outdated.
not to mention the bird. And the baseball team.--MichaelTinkler
Ok, I'm convinced. Cardinal number it is. --AxelBoldt
As this refers to a subdivision/less obvious definition of the term, could it be emphasised that it is the number that is being referred to, not a religious person being away from their phone (g). Jackiespeel 18:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting Mike Cline Contributions

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I am deleting or reverting any contributions I have previously made to this article for the following reason. I work for a company that practices and teaches Strategic Planning methodologies thus making my contribution to any article related to Strategy topics a conflict of interest an in violation of Wikipedia Conflict of Interest guidelines WP:COI --Mike Cline 13:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cardinal is also a popular swiss beer brand, should I add it?

Revert

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Anon. IP removed a link with no explanation. I reverted. -- SECisek 01:25, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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CardinalCardinal (disambiguation) — We should really give the main article to what is now Cardinal (Catholicism). A look at "what links here" shows this is overwhemingly the main use involved. The mathmatical use is at Cardinal number, & if there were a predominant sports team using the term they could have "Cardinals" (I don't have a view on that). Few people can really link to "Cardinal" when they mean "cardinal bird", and the other uses are minor. This page should herefore become "Cardinal (disambiguation)" —Johnbod 20:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please centralize voting and discussion at the survey at Talk:Cardinal_(Catholicism)#Requested_move Johnbod 23:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A move proposal for this page was listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves, but there was no consensus found for the move. Dekimasuよ! 00:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Passenger Train Entry

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The passenger train entry reads “Cardinal (passenger train), an Amtrak route connecting Chicago with New York via Cincinnati and Washington” -- it mentions Cincinnati and Washington to avoid confusion with Amtrak’s other Chicago-New York routes:

  • Lake Shore Limited (18h 45m)
  • Pennsylvanian and Capitol Limited (19h)
  • Regional Service and Capitol Limited (21h)

For reference purposes, note that the Cardinal service is 28h 50m. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.54.39 (talk) 13:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Cardinal (Catholic Church) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 19:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]