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Can we just settle his manner of death once and for all???

Chilean courts repeatedly ruled his death as a suicide, after two autopsies of his body clearly showed that he died by suicide. His family had also long accepted that he died by suicide, and mentioned that he had suggested the possibility of taking himself out days before the coup. And yes, he did have an AK-47 and carried it around in several pictures. He even said in his last speech that those were his "últimas palabras". He planned to do it. ^[1]^[2]^[3] David Jiang (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Chilean court confirms Allende suicide - CNN.com". Edition.cnn.com. Retrieved 2012-09-12.
^ "BBC News - Chile inquiry confirms President Allende killed himself". Bbc.co.uk. 2011-07-19. Retrieved 2012-09-12.
^ "Admite hija de Allende suicidio de su padre". El Universal (in Spanish). Mexico City, Mexico. August 17, 2003. Archived from the original on October 14, 2012.

The manner of his death was self-sacrifice. He choose to die to save his family- Pinochet had offered a plane to fly President Allende and his family out of the country, but Allende knew that, if he was on the plane, it would be shot down and his family wiped out- there was a recording of Pinochet, from that day saying this was his plan. Salvador Allende choose to sacrifice himself to protect his wife and children- it was heroism, and should not be implied to be cowardice, or admission of failure or wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:4E00:AD10:F813:3B23:1ACB:F7F4 (talk) 21:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged CIA coup backing

Describing the 1973 Chilean coup as "CIA backed" exaggerates the CIA's role. 2600:1700:19E0:36C0:152D:2060:20CE:1482 (talk) 07:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not only that, but the CIA played no role in organizing or orchestrating the coup in the first place Kingllama100 (talk) 04:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is false https://nacla.org/remembering-chile-coup-50 Genabab (talk) 14:16, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously you buried the fact that he died under "coup"?!

wth wiki 208.98.223.47 (talk) 01:25, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The page for Kennedy should be used as a template to avoid bias

That is, there should be a heading titled "assassination". 208.98.223.47 (talk) 01:26, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Real Wages

The article states:

"Although the acceleration of inflation in 1972 and 1973 eroded part of the initial increase in wages, they still rose (on average) in real terms during the 1971–73 period."

According to the published paper in a development econ journal cited at various points in this very article (DOI: 10.1257/jep.21.1.169), which is also the source of the graph showing wage growth in real--not nominal terms--this is simply not true. I think this sentence should be removed from the article. Anthonyrolandb (talk) 20:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Chilean court confirms Allende suicide - CNN.com". Edition.cnn.com. Retrieved 2012-09-12.

[2] "BBC News - Chile inquiry confirms President Allende killed himself". Bbc.co.uk. 2011-07-19. Retrieved 2012-09-12.

[Allende-3] "Admite hija de Allende suicidio de su padre". El Universal (in Spanish). Mexico City, Mexico. August 17, 2003. Archived from the original on October 14, 2012.

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+== Can we just settle his manner of death once and for all??? ==
-== Jewish ancestry ==
+Chilean courts repeatedly ruled his death as a suicide, after two autopsies of his body clearly showed that he died by suicide. His family had also long accepted that he died by suicide, and mentioned that he had suggested the possibility of taking himself out days before the coup. And yes, he did have an AK-47 and carried it around in several pictures. He even said in his last speech that those were his "últimas palabras". He planned to do it. <ref>{{cite web |title=Chilean court confirms Allende suicide - CNN.com |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/11/world/americas/chile-allende-suicide/index.html |access-date=2012-09-12 |publisher=Edition.cnn.com}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |date=2011-07-19 |title=BBC News - Chile inquiry confirms President Allende killed himself |url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14210729 |access-date=2012-09-12 |publisher=Bbc.co.uk}}</ref><ref name="Allende">{{cite news |date=August 17, 2003 |title=Admite hija de Allende suicidio de su padre |language=es |newspaper=[[El Universal (Mexico City)|El Universal]] |location=Mexico City, Mexico |url=http://www2.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=164983&tabla=notas |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121014043246/http://www2.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=164983&tabla=notas |archive-date=October 14, 2012}}</ref> [[User:DJTechYT|David Jiang]] ([[User talk:DJTechYT|talk]]) 18:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
-There should be mention of his Jewish ancestry alongside his Belgian and Basque descent as his mother, Laura Gossens Uribe, was at least of partial Jewish descent herself as reported by [[Der Spiegel]]: [http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,356461,00.html link] [[Special:Contributions/73.10.45.43|73.10.45.43]] ([[User talk:73.10.45.43|talk]]) 17:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
-:It may merit a mention, but Judaism is a religion and not an "ancestry". [[Special:Contributions/70.29.99.120|70.29.99.120]] ([[User talk:70.29.99.120|talk]]) 05:26, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
-:You are literally contradicting Wikipedia itself. Embarrassing.
-::Just noting that {{U|73.10.45.43}} seems to be an account with a single purpose of attempting to insert "jewish ancestry" claims into biography articles. Probably not worth engaging with. [[User:Simonm223|Simonm223]] ([[User talk:Simonm223|talk]]) 13:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
+{{reflist-talk}}
-== Allende was not a fucking Marxist. ==
+The manner of his death was self-sacrifice. He choose to die to save his family- Pinochet had offered a plane to fly President Allende and his family out of the country, but Allende knew that, if he was on the plane, it would be shot down and his family wiped out- there was a recording of Pinochet, from that day saying this was his plan.  Salvador Allende choose to sacrifice himself to protect his wife and children- it was heroism, and should not be implied to be cowardice, or admission of failure or wrong.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:603:4E00:AD10:F813:3B23:1ACB:F7F4|2601:603:4E00:AD10:F813:3B23:1ACB:F7F4]] ([[User talk:2601:603:4E00:AD10:F813:3B23:1ACB:F7F4#top|talk]]) 21:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== Alleged CIA coup backing ==
-Your goddamned citations don't even prove the shit...and this article has zero protection? ''Quelle surprise...'' [[Special:Contributions/70.29.99.120|70.29.99.120]] ([[User talk:70.29.99.120|talk]]) 05:23, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
+Describing the 1973 Chilean coup as "CIA backed" exaggerates the CIA's role. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:19E0:36C0:152D:2060:20CE:1482|2600:1700:19E0:36C0:152D:2060:20CE:1482]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:19E0:36C0:152D:2060:20CE:1482|talk]]) 07:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
-You're engaging in historical revisionism and denial, my foul-mouthed friend. The [[Socialist Party of Chile|PS party]] that Allende belonged to declared themselves to be [[Marxism–Leninism|Marxist–Leninist]] in November 1967, nearly three years before Allende was elected president, and, not to mention that he was also aligned with the [[Popular Unity (Chile)|Unidad Popular]] movement, which included the [[Communist Party of Chile]], which is (not surprising) also Marxist–Leninist in orientation. And of course [[Fidel Castro's state visit to Chile|he hosted Fidel Castro in 1971]]. [[Special:Contributions/2601:8C:4500:4680:9165:F232:710C:168A|2601:8C:4500:4680:9165:F232:710C:168A]] ([[User talk:2601:8C:4500:4680:9165:F232:710C:168A|talk]]) 03:51, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
+:Not only that, but the CIA played no role in organizing or orchestrating the coup in the first place [[User:Kingllama100|Kingllama100]] ([[User talk:Kingllama100|talk]]) 04:37, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
-: To [[Special:Contributions/70.29.99.120|70.29.99.120]] ([[User talk:70.29.99.120|talk]]) 05:23, 5 July 2018 (UTC) of course HE was a MARXIST!
+::This is false https://nacla.org/remembering-chile-coup-50 [[User:Genabab|Genabab]] ([[User talk:Genabab|talk]]) 14:16, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
-You fool!
+== Seriously you buried the fact that he died under "coup"?! ==
-What does it matter what label someone works under? He intended to improve the lot of some people but since 1953 he should have known that people who nationalize an asset (like Mossadegh in Iran) are not tolerated. Just these days, the unsealing of so far secret papers in Australia reveals that the Australian organisation Asis operated in Santiago since 1970. The aim was described as 'destabilizing.' It was approved by the Australian government's Billy McMahon. Allende was to be removed and what label you stick is quite immaterial. Allende's descendents may have a claim against the Australian government. [[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:A070:7F00:B427:80FC:E382:591E|2001:8003:A070:7F00:B427:80FC:E382:591E]] ([[User talk:2001:8003:A070:7F00:B427:80FC:E382:591E|talk]]) 06:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
+wth wiki [[Special:Contributions/208.98.223.47|208.98.223.47]] ([[User talk:208.98.223.47|talk]]) 01:25, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
-== US involvement in the coup ==
+== The page for Kennedy should be used as a template to avoid bias  ==
-Documents from the CIA do not show that the US was involved in the coup; in fact, they show the exact opposite. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_Chile#The_1973_coup The article about United States intervention in Chile] contains some quotes from relevant documents; the general sentiment was that the US had considered overthrowing Allende, and had given political support to his opponents, but while they were aware of the coup, the orders were explicitly not to involve themselves in one. Likewise, transcripts of phone conversations between Kissinger and Nixon again show that the US didn't have a hand in the coup. There's no evidence that the US was involved.
+That is, there should be a heading titled "assassination". [[Special:Contributions/208.98.223.47|208.98.223.47]] ([[User talk:208.98.223.47|talk]]) 01:26, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
-It is undoubtedly the case that the US put pressure on Allende, but that's not the same as participating in the coup. The paragraph there has needed a citation since 2016. [[user:Titanium Dragon|<span style="background-color:silver; color:;">'''Titanium Dragon'''</span>]] ([[user talk:Titanium Dragon|talk]]) 19:10, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
-:I've added citations, as you've probably seen by now. The CIA documents are primary sources, and we need to defer to secondary sources where they exist (and they exist here). Winn and others say fairly explicitly that US support was crucial to the overthrow of Allende and Pinochet's consolidation of power. [[User:Vanamonde93|Vanamonde]] ([[User talk:Vanamonde93|talk]]) 20:39, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
+== Real Wages ==
-What bs  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8084:A120:4B00:8899:4FEC:66AD:A8C2|2A02:8084:A120:4B00:8899:4FEC:66AD:A8C2]] ([[User talk:2A02:8084:A120:4B00:8899:4FEC:66AD:A8C2#top|talk]]) 14:03, 17 March 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+The article states:
-== Misleading / Uninformative Chart from the Journal of Development Economics (Source 66) ==
+"Although the acceleration of inflation in 1972 and 1973 eroded part of the initial increase in wages, they still rose (on average) in real terms during the 1971–73 period."
-I would like to replace the diagram from the Journal of Development Economics with one I found in a newer in depth study published by the Centro de Estudios Públicos: https://www.cepchile.cl/cep/site/docs/20160304/20160304092903/rev85_beyer_lefoulon_ing.pdf
+According to the published paper in a development econ journal cited at various points in this very article (DOI: 10.1257/jep.21.1.169), which is also the source of the graph  showing wage growth in real--not nominal terms--this is simply not true. I think this sentence should be removed from the article. [[User:Anthonyrolandb|Anthonyrolandb]] ([[User talk:Anthonyrolandb|talk]]) 20:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
-The new diagram is sighted under Figure No. 1 and gives a far more accurate representation of Chilean wages for the following reasons:
-. It is not as misleading from a mere statistical point of view, since the diagram '''Y-Axis starts at 0'''. The impact of Allende's policies on wages might currently be perceived as being far more extreme to someone unfamiliar with statistics, because in the current diagram, it looks like wages dropped to zero when not being aware of the y-axis.
-. The new diagram is far more up to date and therefor allows to directly '''compare Allende's policies to those of following and non-socialist governments''' in general.
-. Most importantly, the authors actually focused on the topic of wealth inequality, not just macroeconomics, which is already sighted as the issue primarily adressed by Allende's politics. Clearly visible is the immense difference between wages of the 50th percentile and the 90th percentile around 1970. The evaluation of the following decline in wages has to include the fact that Allende's policies indeed managed to eliminate income inequality, since wages of all percentiles were effectively the same when he died. Since it is known by now, that the overall decline of income is related to US economic interference at least as much as to Allende's politics themselves, it is safe to say that '''for the people that voted for him - who were the poorest of Chileans - his politics were indeed a complete success'''. This becomes even clearer when looking at the following decades, where inequal payment is present once again and people in the poorer half of the population don't profit from increases in wealth as much as they should.
-The depiction of the 99th percentile would have been especially interesting, since it would have given insight into the earnings of the profiteurs of US copper companies or ITT. This graph would surely be an even better depiction of wealth inequality, sadly I didn't find something on the topic so far.<br>
-<br>
-I would need help replacing the file though, since I'm new to Wikipedia and not familiar with licenses etc.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:ElrikLeBaum|ElrikLeBaum]] ([[User talk:ElrikLeBaum#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ElrikLeBaum|contribs]]) 10:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== Guillermo or Isabelino? ==
-Is it Salvador Guillermo Allende ? I thought it was Isabelino, not Guillermo. Where is the reference? [[User:Zaheen|Zaheen]] ([[User talk:Zaheen|talk]]) 05:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
-:{{ping|Zaheen}} [[:File:CLSRCeI AP1190806260(1).pdf|there you go]]. [https://books.google.cl/books?id=3aqKxRWYjawC&pg=PA33 Apparently, such incorrect name was spread by an angry writer, Óscar Waiss, who had a personal vendetta against Allende]. --[[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|talk]]) 05:06, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
-::Hi [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]], I cannot access any of the links you provided. PDF link is invalid and the Google books link does not allow previewing the page. So I don't see what you mean. Could you please clealry say which name is incorrect and cite the name and page number of the source, and copy the text passage that supports it? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Zaheen|Zaheen]] ([[User talk:Zaheen|talk]]) 09:53, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
-:::I linked the birth certificate which states his birth name is Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens. The other source, page 33, says the Isabelino... name was nade up by Oscar Waiss as a means of mocking Allende (since he was a Marxist, not a religious person). Ultimately they ended up being "friends" (Allende nominated Waiss as the editor in chief of La Nación newspaper). I'm on the phone so I can't copy the book name but since you can see the details page I don't see it necessary. [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|talk]]) 12:03, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
-::::[[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]], thanks. I got the Guillermo name from the book you linked to in another page. I don't doubt your source, but I could not find Guillermo on an official Chilean government website.  --[[User:Zaheen|Zaheen]] ([[User talk:Zaheen|talk]]) 06:18, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
-== The weapon ==
-Why does both articles [[Salvador Allende]] and [[Death of Salvador Allende]] says that he shot himself with an [[AK-47]]? that weapon is obviously incorrect. Allende's weapon was a AKMS, a underfolding stock variant of the [[AKM]].
-https://www.flickr.com/photos/leopoldovictorvargas/29247078691
-https://twitter.com/desde_1965/status/1330097873963413507?lang=zh-Hant [[User:ColorfulSmoke|ColorfulSmoke]] ([[User talk:ColorfulSmoke|talk]]) 13:10, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
-:most sources say it was a AK-47. If you find sources saying otherwise then add them. Twitter and Flickr posts are obviously not acceptable [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|talk]]) 15:22, 31 August 2022 (UTC)