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==Wikipedia Peace Sprint==
Wikipedia Peace Sprint is an initiative made by a group of South Sudanese students from the university of Bahr El Ghazal in collaboration with defyhatenow project on December 15, 2016 in Wau. [[User:Viola ajonga|Viola ajonga]] ([[User talk:Viola ajonga|talk]]) 03:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

==Beagle case appeal?==
In April, Freff appears to have edited his own article a couple of times to remove the Beagle lawsuit material. These removals were rightly reverted per Wikipedia policies. In the first edit (done as an IP, so ''possibly'' not him), he said: {{talk quote inline|The deleted material refers to active, ongoing legal matters that have NOT been concluded, and is deliberately misleading. The ruling it cites is under appeal because it was not based on any evidence, and so far Beagle's lawyers have lost every motion.in the appellate court. Also, the bankruptcy acquisition is being legally challenged.|q=yes}}

In the second, done from his (presumably) [[User:Connorfc |Connorfc]] account, he said:{{talk quote inline|The source being sited is a one-sided PRESS RELEASE, not an accurate factual document. Much of its content is provably false. The legal matter in question is still under appeal and absolutely NOT settled.|q=yes}}

I was going to add material about the appeal(s), to partially address Mr. Cochran's concerns, but I tried Googling, going to a few court records websites, etc., and couldn't find anything to establish appeals being in-process. If anyone with more expertise searching for court documents knows how to find those, please post here, or just go ahead and add them. Danke schön. --[[User:Dan Harkless|Dan Harkless]] ([[User talk:Dan Harkless|talk]]) 14:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
: Mr. Cochran's assertions aside, press releases are not generally considered [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] except for what the releasant is claiming. I'm removing the press release for the time being, but still looking for additional sources with which to expand the article. — '''[[user:fourthords|<span style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 18:32, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

The appeal has been shot down in court. http://file770.com/california-appeals-court-rejects-cochrans-effort-to-overturn-judgment-favoring-beagle/ <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.126.163.69|76.126.163.69]] ([[User talk:76.126.163.69#top|talk]]) 04:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Thanks for the heads-up! I've [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Connor_Freff_Cochran&type=revision&diff=1069408571&oldid=1046865506 updated the article]. — '''[[user:fourthords|<span style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 05:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
:I am a "novice" editor here, so probably doing this the wrong way, but : "But the judge disallowed claims for elder abuse" - if the judge did this, why does the article still include "elder abuse"? according to the citation in the article...? [[User:SkyeIsFallen|SkyeIsFallen]] ([[User talk:SkyeIsFallen|talk]]) 01:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
::I refer to citation [7] [[User:SkyeIsFallen|SkyeIsFallen]] ([[User talk:SkyeIsFallen|talk]]) 01:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
:: From the ''File 770'' source, there're two different judgments made (bolding mine): The first was that "Markman found that Beagle proved his claims against Cochran for '''financial elder abuse''', fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, and defamation." The second was "the judge disallowed claims for '''elder abuse based on acts resulting in mental suffering''', and conversion (of assets)." It's the former that we're quoting in the article. The second enhanced elder-abuse grounds on which the judge didn't rule probably require greater or more-specific evidence, is my guess. — '''[[user:Fourthords|<span style="color:#c00">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:Fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 15:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

== names ==

Wasn't he once known as Jeff Cochran? I have heard that ''Freff'' originated as a contraction of ''Friendly Jeff''. [[User:Tamfang|—Tamfang]] ([[User talk:Tamfang|talk]]) 05:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
* The ISFDB doesn't list it as an alternate name he's used, at least: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?11513 —[[Special:Contributions/165.219.88.111|165.219.88.111]] ([[User talk:165.219.88.111|talk]]) 15:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:02, 27 August 2024

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Wikipedia Peace Sprint

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Wikipedia Peace Sprint is an initiative made by a group of South Sudanese students from the university of Bahr El Ghazal in collaboration with defyhatenow project on December 15, 2016 in Wau. Viola ajonga (talk) 03:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Beagle case appeal?

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In April, Freff appears to have edited his own article a couple of times to remove the Beagle lawsuit material. These removals were rightly reverted per Wikipedia policies. In the first edit (done as an IP, so possibly not him), he said: The deleted material refers to active, ongoing legal matters that have NOT been concluded, and is deliberately misleading. The ruling it cites is under appeal because it was not based on any evidence, and so far Beagle's lawyers have lost every motion.in the appellate court. Also, the bankruptcy acquisition is being legally challenged.

In the second, done from his (presumably) Connorfc account, he said:The source being sited is a one-sided PRESS RELEASE, not an accurate factual document. Much of its content is provably false. The legal matter in question is still under appeal and absolutely NOT settled.

I was going to add material about the appeal(s), to partially address Mr. Cochran's concerns, but I tried Googling, going to a few court records websites, etc., and couldn't find anything to establish appeals being in-process. If anyone with more expertise searching for court documents knows how to find those, please post here, or just go ahead and add them. Danke schön. --Dan Harkless (talk) 14:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Cochran's assertions aside, press releases are not generally considered reliable sources except for what the releasant is claiming. I'm removing the press release for the time being, but still looking for additional sources with which to expand the article. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 18:32, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The appeal has been shot down in court. http://file770.com/california-appeals-court-rejects-cochrans-effort-to-overturn-judgment-favoring-beagle/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.163.69 (talk) 04:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up! I've updated the article. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 05:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am a "novice" editor here, so probably doing this the wrong way, but : "But the judge disallowed claims for elder abuse" - if the judge did this, why does the article still include "elder abuse"? according to the citation in the article...? SkyeIsFallen (talk) 01:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I refer to citation [7] SkyeIsFallen (talk) 01:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From the File 770 source, there're two different judgments made (bolding mine): The first was that "Markman found that Beagle proved his claims against Cochran for financial elder abuse, fraud, breach of fiduciary duty, and defamation." The second was "the judge disallowed claims for elder abuse based on acts resulting in mental suffering, and conversion (of assets)." It's the former that we're quoting in the article. The second enhanced elder-abuse grounds on which the judge didn't rule probably require greater or more-specific evidence, is my guess. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 15:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

names

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Wasn't he once known as Jeff Cochran? I have heard that Freff originated as a contraction of Friendly Jeff. —Tamfang (talk) 05:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]