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Disambiguation links

I'm currently fixing the 140+ disambiguation links to this page. After that, I will move this page to Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation). Edokter 13:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done! Edokter 21:17, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Host

It say that UK series is hosted by Angus & the USA edition by Gordon. But they have completely different roles. Gordon is the chef & is in the kitchen. Angus is saying the links between sections. Should this be changed?--Hiltonhampton 22:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A question better asked at Talk:Hell's Kitchen (UK), though the article clearly states "starred Gordon Ramsay [...] and presented by Angus Deayton". — Edokter • Talk • 22:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hell's Kitchen, NYC

Hell's Kitchen in NYC is not in Queens, but in Manhattan and is also known as Clinton. 68.236.178.105 (talk) 17:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Elimination Tables

The color selections for the elimination tables are very poor. It makes it very hard to read...Andrew097 (talk) 05:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan

Could this article be moved to Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation) and Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan moved here, as it is the origin of and most common use of the term? — Robert Greer (talk) 18:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 February 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: do not move. (closed by non-admin page mover) Warm Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 18:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It was proposed in this section that Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation) be renamed and moved to Hell's Kitchen.

The discussion has been closed, and the result will be found in the closer's comment.

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Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation) → Hell's Kitchen – "Hell's Kitchen" currently redirects to Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, but it seems that there's no longer a clear full primary topic for this name (WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC). Thus, the disambiguation page (Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation)) should be moved to the basename.

he Manhattan neighborhood seems to often consistently referred to as "Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan", and less frequently as simply "Hell's Kitchen". The Manhattan neighborhood already has a stable page title, which is already naturally disambiguated (WP:NATURALDIS). The other pages on the list cannot be naturally disambiguated.

Even if the Manhattan neighborhood may be the originator of the etymology, it's much less well-known globally and no more relevant than some of the other articles on the disambiguation page. The U.S. TV series, which (along with the UK series) kinda helped shape the genre of cooking shows and reality television, consistently MORE-THAN-DOUBLES the pageviews (and GHits) of the Manhattan neighborhood, with the series getting 116,256 pageviews in the past 20 days compared to the neighborhood's 46,877 (a ratio of 2.5:1). Paintspot Infez (talk) 14:27, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, the Manhattan neighborhood was clearly the inspiration for the other names in the disambiguation and the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. "Much less well-known" seems to be an opinion and can be based on where exactly you live in the world._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 15:52, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because popularity and page views for the TV shows are only temporary. In fact, the original half-hearted move in 2015 ought to be reverted. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 16:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose WP:RECENTISM. --Netoholic @ 18:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. No primary topic, so the disambiguation page should sit at the base title. -- Whats new?^(talk) 22:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Clear primary redirect. And I'm not American, so I really don't think "much less well-known globally and no more relevant than some of the other articles on the disambiguation page" is true. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:59, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 Could this article be moved to [[Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation)]] and [[Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan]] moved here, as it is the origin of and most common use of the term? — [[User:Robertgreer|Robert Greer]] ([[User talk:Robertgreer|talk]]) 18:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
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+The result of the move request was: '''do not move'''. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> Warm Regards, [[User:ZI Jony|<span style="color:#8B0000">'''ZI Jony'''</span>]] [[User talk:ZI Jony|<sup><span style="color:Green"><i>(Talk)</i></span></sup>]] 18:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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+[[:Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation)]] → {{no redirect|Hell's Kitchen}} – "Hell's Kitchen" '''currently redirects''' to [[Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan]], but it seems that there's '''no longer a clear full primary topic''' for this name ([[WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC]]). Thus, the disambiguation page ([[Hell's Kitchen (disambiguation)]]) should be moved to the basename.
+he Manhattan neighborhood seems to often consistently referred to as "Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan", and less frequently as simply "Hell's Kitchen". The Manhattan neighborhood '''already has a stable page title''', which is already naturally disambiguated ([[WP:NATURALDIS]]). The other pages on the list '''cannot be naturally disambiguated'''.
+Even if the Manhattan neighborhood may be the originator of the etymology, it's much less well-known globally and no more relevant than some of the other articles on the disambiguation page. '''The U.S. TV series''', which (along with the UK series) kinda helped shape the genre of cooking shows and reality television, '''consistently MORE-THAN-DOUBLES''' the pageviews (and GHits) of the Manhattan neighborhood, with the series getting [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Hell%27s_Kitchen,_Manhattan 116,256 pageviews] in the past 20 days compared to the neighborhood's 46,877 '''(a ratio of 2.5:1)'''. <small>[[User:Paintspot|Paintspot Infez]] ([[User talk:Paintspot|talk]])</small> 14:27, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''', the Manhattan neighborhood was clearly the inspiration for the other names in the disambiguation and the [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. "Much less well-known" seems to be an opinion and can be based on where exactly you live in the world.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 15:52, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''' because popularity and page views for the TV shows are only temporary. In fact, the original half-hearted move in 2015 ought to be reverted. -- [[User:Michael Bednarek|Michael Bednarek]] ([[User talk:Michael Bednarek|talk]]) 16:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''' [[WP:RECENTISM]]. --[[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]]  18:18, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
+*'''Support''' per nom. No primary topic, so the disambiguation page should sit at the base title. '''-- [[User:Whats new?|Whats new?]]<sup>[[User talk:Whats new?|(talk)]]</sup>''' 22:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose'''. Clear primary redirect. And I'm not American, so I really don't think "much less well-known globally and no more relevant than some of the other articles on the disambiguation page" is true. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 14:59, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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