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== Dysthymia? == |
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::No, according to [[DSM-IV]] there is a subtle difference. Melancholia is a specifier of a [[Major Depressive Episode]] which is more severe than the criteria for Dysthymia. By the definitions given in DSM-IV the Melacholic specifier cannot be applied to Dysthymia. [[Special:Contributions/194.83.139.177|194.83.139.177]] ([[User talk:194.83.139.177|talk]]) 13:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC) |
::No, according to [[DSM-IV]] there is a subtle difference. Melancholia is a specifier of a [[Major Depressive Episode]] which is more severe than the criteria for Dysthymia. By the definitions given in DSM-IV the Melacholic specifier cannot be applied to Dysthymia. [[Special:Contributions/194.83.139.177|194.83.139.177]] ([[User talk:194.83.139.177|talk]]) 13:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC) |
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⚫ | I would elaborate on the symptoms of the depression and on the treatment. Different people have different symptoms. I would go through some studies/experiments and find out the outcome and put them in the article. Some examples of the medicines that can help. Or what about therapy? --[[User:Kelsey.bayerl|Kelsey.bayerl]] ([[User talk:Kelsey.bayerl|talk]]) 00:15, 19 September 2011 (UTC)Kelsey.Bayerl |
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⚫ | Kelsey I think you did a really good job on this assignment and I also think that your suggestions are very thought out and I would agree with you that the article would very much help people out more with the things you are talking about. [[User:Stabers|Stabers]] ([[User talk:Stabers|talk]]) 03:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC) |
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⚫ | Kelsey, after reading what you added to this artical i thought it was very good. There are only a few things i would fix. "Depression is twice as common in women as it is in men. Major depression is most often genetic." This really isnt helpful to the artical unless you were generalizing on general depression. On that note maybe you should put a link in there to general depression to make sure your reader knows what depresion acctually is before going on to what a specific depression is. And when i cliced on your referance i didnt see where you got your information from, but i could have done that wrong myself. --[[User:Jordie09|Jordie09]] ([[User talk:Jordie09|talk]]) 21:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC) |
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==Copyright problems with diagnostic criteria== |
==Copyright problems with diagnostic criteria== |
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The [[American Psychiatric Association]] has not released its ''[[Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders]]'' into [[public domain]], but claims copyright. The Wikimedia Foundation has received a letter of complaint ([[Ticket:2010030910040817]], for those with access) about the use of their diagnostic criteria in this and a number of other articles. Currently, this content is blanked pending investigation, which will last approximately one week. Please feel free to provide input at [[Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2010_March_9#DSM_Complaint_.28Ticket:2010030910040817.29|the copyright problems board listing]] during that time. Individuals with access to the books would be particularly welcome in helping to conduct the investigation. Assistance developing a plan to prevent misuse of the APA's material on Wikipedia projects would also be welcome. Thank you. [[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 14:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC) |
The [[American Psychiatric Association]] has not released its ''[[Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders]]'' into [[public domain]], but claims copyright. The Wikimedia Foundation has received a letter of complaint ([[Ticket:2010030910040817]], for those with access) about the use of their diagnostic criteria in this and a number of other articles. Currently, this content is blanked pending investigation, which will last approximately one week. Please feel free to provide input at [[Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2010_March_9#DSM_Complaint_.28Ticket:2010030910040817.29|the copyright problems board listing]] during that time. Individuals with access to the books would be particularly welcome in helping to conduct the investigation. Assistance developing a plan to prevent misuse of the APA's material on Wikipedia projects would also be welcome. Thank you. [[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 14:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC) |
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⚫ | I would elaborate on the symptoms of the depression and on the treatment. Different people have different symptoms. I would go through some studies/experiments and find out the outcome and put them in the article. Some examples of the medicines that can help. Or what about therapy? --[[User:Kelsey.bayerl|Kelsey.bayerl]] ([[User talk:Kelsey.bayerl|talk]]) 00:15, 19 September 2011 (UTC)Kelsey.Bayerl |
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⚫ | Kelsey I think you did a really good job on this assignment and I also think that your suggestions are very thought out and I would agree with you that the article would very much help people out more with the things you are talking about. [[User:Stabers|Stabers]] ([[User talk:Stabers|talk]]) 03:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC) |
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⚫ | Kelsey, after reading what you added to this artical i thought it was very good. There are only a few things i would fix. "Depression is twice as common in women as it is in men. Major depression is most often genetic." This really isnt helpful to the artical unless you were generalizing on general depression. On that note maybe you should put a link in there to general depression to make sure your reader knows what depresion acctually is before going on to what a specific depression is. And when i cliced on your referance i didnt see where you got your information from, but i could have done that wrong myself. --[[User:Jordie09|Jordie09]] ([[User talk:Jordie09|talk]]) 21:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC) |
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==Wiki Education assignment: Communicating the Fundamentals of Epidemiology== |
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by [[User:Ciil18|Ciil18]] ([[User talk:Ciil18|talk]]) 16:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)</span> |
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== Communicating the Fundamentals... == |
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[[File:Two new sliders for the state magic lanthern. (BM 1898,0520.186).jpg|thumb|"...wearing his spectacles, turns his head away from his companions with an expression of [[Melancholia|melancholy]]... Tantalus. Ixion. Sysiphus. A scene in Hades... Sisyphus climbs up the rock, pushing before him a spherical boulder..." ]] |
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Pinging @[[User:Casliber|Casliber]], @[[User:Markworthen|Markworthen]], @[[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]]: |
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Since, in a different era, we reached some sort of broad, informal consensus (I think) in [[Talk:Melancholia#trimmed/updated content|this]] historical thread (2019) that |
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:a) 'Melancholic depression' is not a current thing, and |
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:b) it's probably better to ''merge'' this page with [[Melancholia]], |
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Melancholic depression appears to have been part of an intriguingly instructive education assignment on communicating the "fundamentals[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Melancholic_depression&diff=1209161405&oldid=1204038230 <nowiki>[??]</nowiki>] of epidemiology". |
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Can we now perhaps start to get this lifted before gravity inevitably weighs in again? |
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(It's [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Melancholic_depression&diff=prev&oldid=1209167198 beginning] to get me down :) [[Special:Contributions/86.177.202.139|86.177.202.139]] ([[User talk:86.177.202.139|talk]]) 20:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:ok hold my beer...[[User:Casliber|Cas Liber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 23:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
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::Shouldn't the [[Talk:Melancholia#Merge proposal|merge proposal]] you introduced on the Melancholia talk page appear on this talk page too? I thought it was automatic. <span style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 14px;">[[User:Markworthen|Mark D Worthen PsyD]] [[User talk:Markworthen|(talk)]]</span> <span style="font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 11px;">[he/him]</span> 19:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Dysthymia?
[edit]Isn't this basically the same thing as Dysthymia? --Serph 15:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- When it goes on for over two years, I think so. 76.180.120.161 06:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- No, according to DSM-IV there is a subtle difference. Melancholia is a specifier of a Major Depressive Episode which is more severe than the criteria for Dysthymia. By the definitions given in DSM-IV the Melacholic specifier cannot be applied to Dysthymia. 194.83.139.177 (talk) 13:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]I would elaborate on the symptoms of the depression and on the treatment. Different people have different symptoms. I would go through some studies/experiments and find out the outcome and put them in the article. Some examples of the medicines that can help. Or what about therapy? --Kelsey.bayerl (talk) 00:15, 19 September 2011 (UTC)Kelsey.Bayerl
Kelsey I think you did a really good job on this assignment and I also think that your suggestions are very thought out and I would agree with you that the article would very much help people out more with the things you are talking about. Stabers (talk) 03:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Kelsey, after reading what you added to this artical i thought it was very good. There are only a few things i would fix. "Depression is twice as common in women as it is in men. Major depression is most often genetic." This really isnt helpful to the artical unless you were generalizing on general depression. On that note maybe you should put a link in there to general depression to make sure your reader knows what depresion acctually is before going on to what a specific depression is. And when i cliced on your referance i didnt see where you got your information from, but i could have done that wrong myself. --Jordie09 (talk) 21:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Copyright problems with diagnostic criteria
[edit]The American Psychiatric Association has not released its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders into public domain, but claims copyright. The Wikimedia Foundation has received a letter of complaint (Ticket:2010030910040817, for those with access) about the use of their diagnostic criteria in this and a number of other articles. Currently, this content is blanked pending investigation, which will last approximately one week. Please feel free to provide input at the copyright problems board listing during that time. Individuals with access to the books would be particularly welcome in helping to conduct the investigation. Assistance developing a plan to prevent misuse of the APA's material on Wikipedia projects would also be welcome. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. No big deal, the DSM is mostly ridiculous. 205.232.191.21 (talk) 14:32, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
[edit]This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 August 2020 and 11 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Annanoel84. Peer reviewers: Mledx.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 03:50, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia Ambassador Program assignment
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Wiki Education assignment: Communicating the Fundamentals of Epidemiology
[edit]This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 January 2023 and 27 April 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Ciil18 (article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Ciil18 (talk) 16:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
Communicating the Fundamentals...
[edit]Pinging @Casliber, @Markworthen, @Johnbod:
Since, in a different era, we reached some sort of broad, informal consensus (I think) in this historical thread (2019) that
- a) 'Melancholic depression' is not a current thing, and
- b) it's probably better to merge this page with Melancholia,
Melancholic depression appears to have been part of an intriguingly instructive education assignment on communicating the "fundamentals[??] of epidemiology".
Can we now perhaps start to get this lifted before gravity inevitably weighs in again?
(It's beginning to get me down :) 86.177.202.139 (talk) 20:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- ok hold my beer...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't the merge proposal you introduced on the Melancholia talk page appear on this talk page too? I thought it was automatic. Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 19:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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