Talk:Shawn Mendes

Child singer?

I noticed the page is categorized in "Canadian child singers". Mendes rose to fame at the age of 15, which by that point he wasn't exactly a "child" anymore. Perhaps a category of "Canadian teen singers" or such can be created. MB298 (talk) 00:27, 28 December 2015 (UTC) But he is also younger than most singer's and there are a lot of teen singers that are about 18 or 19 so think again.

Learn your language: Someone in their teens is technically known as a "youth" Santamoly (talk) 05:50, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Actor

I would like to have the movie he was in listed in his Wikipedia page. Shawn Mendes was part of the US cast of the movie "Underdogs", which came out in 2013. It was an animated film and he portrayed younger Jake. Though he did not have a huge role in the movie, most people do not know that he was part of the movie and I believe that people should know that he was actually in a movie.

Irishdancer for life (talk) 20:03, 7 August 2016 (UTC)irishdancer_for_life

Genre

Many sources have clarified that Shawn Mendes' discography contains music distinguished as rock, blues and pop-rock. Whenever those three genres are added under "genres", the changes are reversed by a certain user when they should not be. It is not personal opinion. Multiple sources have agreed with this. Please stop reversing the changes involving those genres.

Here are the sources: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/86275160481747a88618bbe6140fa31d/shawn-mendes-serious-striking-musician-emerges https://www.google.ca/amp/www.stereogum.com/1900138/whos-shawn-mendes-youre-about-to-find-out-whether-you-like-it-or-not/franchises/the-week-in-pop%3Famp%3D1

Wikipedian1818 (talk) 01:50, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Only list genres that are prominent/recurring in his career. Not the album. Destiny Leo (talk) 15:24, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

The genres listed are indeed prominent/recurring in his career. The sources cited refer to each specific album, however the two albums make up 95% of his discography. Thus all genres should be included. Wikipedian1818 (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Genre?

Does anyone know what the genre of Shawn Mendes' music actually is? It always just says plain 'pop' or even 'rock', though there's no rock in Shawn Mendes' songs at all. Is there a more specific genre? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.207.146 (talk) 16:32, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2018

add Shawn's mtv umplugged album and madison square gardens album. He also performed at the MTV VMAS, Madison Square Gardens and MTV Unplugged, which featured on MTV. Shawnmendesstan (talk) 11:16, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Context for statement re Shawn Medes is heterosexual required

The addition of 'Shawn Mendes is heterosexual' is very strange without relevant context as I tried to insert.It is a very odd inclusion on a Wikipedia page without some context. You do not see the same insertions on say Tom Cruise, Barrack Obama pages for instance or millions of other celebrity pages. I suggest you delete the 'Shawn Mendes is heterosexual' statement if you do not put some context of why you are adding it in. Discopup (talk) 02:41, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

If your concerns are about adding appropriate context, why, in this edit, did you change the text to just Mendes is gay. and in this edit, did you change the text to Mendes says he is heterosexual.? Your third edit which added the sentence There has been extensive online speculation about Mendes' sexuality which Mendes has clarified in a number of media interviews. in my view places too much WP:UNDUE emphasis on gossip on and rumors about a living person and there is no need to address it; perhaps more context could be added but not just by saying there is "extensive" speculation. If there are sources explicitly discussing the sexuality of Cruise, Obama, or others (i.e., no one is assuming they are straight just because of no evidence to the contrary), then I would say the articles should be updated to reflect that information. Umimmak (talk) 05:23, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

The fact is Mendes may be gay or he may be heterosexual... We just have him stating he is not gay. Many other celebrities have said they were straight but ended up admiting they were in fact gay later. Without some context your statement Shawn Mendes is heterosexual is not a proven fact it is just what he is saying at this point in time... It might be true or it might not. By altering it to say he says he is heterosexual is a lot more accurate but my preference would be adding the context that it has been a cause of discussion which Mendes has chosen to respond to and state that he is not gay. Discopup (talk) 08:03, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I certainly think that if the statement is to be included, it makes sense to say that he talked publicly about it because of the speculation. Nonetheless, I'm not sure it's necessary purely on the basis of the speculation (in contrast to someone like Gillian Anderson where we specifically note that she identifies as straight because she's dated women in the past). –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Unless Mendes has described himself specifically with the words "heterosexual" or "straight" (or synonymous phrases), we cannot call him this. From what I can tell, he has said he is "not gay", so we can say that. Maybe "Mendes has stated that he is not gay, following speculation by his fans." Let's not forget that he could be bisexual, pansexual, asexual etc. The user above me needs to be ignored. We cannot make assertions with no evidence about living people, particularly those that they have stated to be untrue per WP:BLP, which is one of the most important policies we have due to its legal implications. — Bilorv_(c)(talk) 17:42, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Regarding this, I agree with Roscelese. Stating that he is heterosexual without context makes no sense. It should be made clear why we are stating that he's heterosexual. Yes, we commonly state that people are gay, bisexual, pansexual or asexual...without further commentary, but the reasons for that have been made clear elsewhere. Either add the context or remove "Shawn Mendes is heterosexual." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 10:05, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

I guess I'll add some wording if someone else doesn't. The sources support adding context. I don't see that I need to take this to an RfC. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:33, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Changed per above. And then changed again because Bilorv noted that he doesn't even state that he's heterosexual. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:14, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Flyer22 Reborn for the edits. I think your edits give the appropriate context needed. Discopup (talk) 21:50, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2019

My request is to clear up that Pickering Ontario is NOT a suburb of Toronto - it is in Durham Region, a completely different township that is beside York Region. Durham Region includes Pickering, Ajax, Whitby, Oshawa and Clarington. Smendesfan (talk) 13:30, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Pickering is part of the Greater Toronto Area and the Toronto census metropolitan area. While Pickering is no doubt in the Durham Region *Municipality* and is a separate City from Toronto, commonsense understanding of suburb would relate Pickering to Toronto.--Goldsztajn (talk) 23:15, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Edit Request

Hello! In Personal Life section. About Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello relationship i've got some new info that i've got from videos on youtube such as Shawn Mendes Q&A meetings and camila's interviews in the UK also from numerous other sources like HollyWoodLife youtube channel and TMZ reports youtube channel. Also they confirmed their relationship. Sources: https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a28835178/camila-cabello-and-shawn-mendess-vma-body-language-analysis/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC8kcbaSvYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3utJwTt3kE

So please just fix change Shawn Mendes relationship status because you are soooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong. Also the lyyyyyy guy is a lier it say it in his name above that requested the edit to make it look like they aren't together is just a hater so idk whay you've taken him seriously because its clear to me that he doesn't believe in true love.

Best Regards, WorldWidePressNo1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by WorldWidePressNo1 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Can someone stop adding unsubstantiated gossip about his relationship with Camila Cabello. This is not a forum for trolls, this is supposed to be a source of information. Mendes has denied the accusations of a stunt so either remove this portion or add clarification please.

Please delete/remove: "However, the relationship has garnered controversy, as both were accused of attempting to form a relationship for publicity.[94][95][96]" There's no need for this to be in here as it has nothing to do with him personally, just others' reactions. Shawn Mendes has also confirmed it is not a publicity stunt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPUrnOaffQ. This should be about facts not internet gossip. Citing the Guardian (a highly questionable source) as evidence that the relationship is fake is wrong, especially since it is based on nothing but internet gossip. Or if it will remain, at least add that Mendes has denied those rumors.

If section is not deleted, please change to "The relationship was initially speculated to have been formed for publicity, but Mendes denied it stating it was "definitely not a stunt"." Sources: https://www.capitalfm.com/artists/shawn-mendes/camila-cabello-dating-relationship/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPUrnOaffQ.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. OhKayeSierra (talk) 05:37, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2019

Delete: "However, the relationship has garnered controversy, as both were accused of attempting to form a relationship for publicity.[94][95][96]" There's no need for this to be in here as it has nothing to do with him personally, just others' reactions. Shawn Mendes has also confirmed it is not a publicity stunt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPUrnOaffQ. This should be about facts not internet gossip. Citing the Guardian (a highly questionable source) as evidence that the relationship is fake is wrong, especially since it is based on nothing but internet gossip. Or if it will remain, at least add that Mendes has denied those rumors.

If section is not deleted, please change to "The relationship was initially speculated to have been formed for publicity, but Mendes denied it stating it was "definitely not a stunt"." Sources: https://www.capitalfm.com/artists/shawn-mendes/camila-cabello-dating-relationship/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPUrnOaffQ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennybarb1991 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. His own words are a primary source of information, and Wikipedia requires reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. Gaioa (T C L) 08:43, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

DELETE REQUEST: I'm requesting that the "However, the relationship has garnered controversy, as both were accused of attempting to form a relationship for publicity.[94][95][96]" be deleted as it is internet gossip and only speculation. Citing the Guardian (a highly questionable source) as evidence that the relationship is fake is wrong, especially since it is based on nothing but internet gossip. Wikipedia is supposed to be a reference source not a gossip forum.

Still  Not done. The sourcing seems fine – in particular, The Guardian is a reliable source. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:50, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Vine or youtube?

Shawn did not start on vine. He has said this in many interviews. He started in youtube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clara gscr (talk • contribs) 10:05, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Shawn Mendes

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Shawn Mendes's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Variety":

• From Camila Cabello: "Fox's 'iHeart Living Room Concert for America': TV Review". Variety. March 29, 2020. Retrieved March 31, 2020.
• From List of Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign endorsements: Vary, Adam B. (August 20, 2020). "Hollywood Reacts to Joe Biden's DNC Address: 'The Speech of His Life'". Variety. Retrieved August 22, 2020.
• From If I Can't Have You (Shawn Mendes song): Nyran, Erin (May 2, 2019). "Shawn Mendes New Single 'If I Can't Have You' Drops". Variety. Retrieved May 3, 2019.
• From Shawn Mendes (album): Aswad, Jem (May 24, 2018). "Album Review: 'Shawn Mendes'". Variety. Retrieved May 24, 2018.
• From 2019 MTV Europe Music Awards: "Ariana Grande Leads 2019 MTV EMA Nominations". Variety. 1 October 2019. Retrieved 1 October 2019.
• From Together at Home: Willman, Chris (March 20, 2020). "Friday's Music Live-Streams: Hozier, OneRepublic, Bela Fleck, UltraFest and More".
• From Arcade Fire: Halperin, Shirley (May 31, 2017). "Arcade Fire Signs with Columbia Records". Variety. Retrieved May 31, 2017.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:04, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Religious family - Incorrect

Shawn did an interview on the podcast Armchair Expert, episode 275, released December 14, 2020.

In the interview, at timestamp 20:58, Shawn says: "I grew up in a family that wasn't spiritual at all. There was no talk of religion or God or anything."

This contradicts what's currently in the wiki, where it says "He was raised in a religious family." [4]

If you follow that reference 4, the article actually doesn't actually have any direct sources of him saying he's religious. He's talking about religion in the context of fashion, and then the article simply writes: "Mendes--who later revealed he did come from a religious upbringing". However, it's not clear where he reveals this, there's no reference to that source.

Yet, on the podcast it comes straight from him speaking.

Therefore, the sentence about him growing up in a religious family either needs to be removed or edited to say that he did not grow up religious. --Lumidolce (talk) 03:00, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

References

He is Portuguese-Canadian (Luso-Canadian)

That's it, he is Portuguese-Canadian (Luso-Canadian) Newsletters n (talk) 19:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Personal Life Section Changes

The current personal life summary on this page only mentions his current girlfriend, Camila Cabello, of two years with a reference to them being accused of a PR stunt. Considering they’ve been dating for two years now and have been friends for many years before that, I think this section should be revised to leave out the unfounded rumors and talk more about their relationship.

Suggested edit: Since July 2019, Shawn Mendes has been dating fellow singer-songwriter Camila Cabello. The pair had been long time friends after they met on a tour they were both opening acts for in 2014. They both denied dating rumors for years, rumors that only grew when they collaborated on their song “I Know What You Did Last Summer”, before entering into a romantic relationship after their work on their collaboration “Señorita” in 2019. Since then, they have moved in together and split their time between Camila’s family home in Miami, Florida and their home in Los Angeles. In 2020, the couple announced that they had adopted a golden retriever puppy named Tarzan. Lukadarkwater (talk) 20:57, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2021

Personal Life: Shawn Mendes dated his high school girlfriend Lauren Arendse for two years from 2013 to 2015. In 2016, he was rumored to be dating actress Chloe Grace Mortez. In 2017 to 2018 he dated model Hailey Baldwin with whom he attended the met gala 2018. In 2015 he was strongly rumored to be dating singer Camila Cabello whom he collaborated with in their hit song I Know What You Did Last Summer. However their relationship wasn't confirmed till July 2019. But they publicly announced their breakup via joint Insta Stories on November 2021. Soumyosree (talk) 11:42, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:45, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2021

If you can add Shawn Mendes among Hailey Baldwin's relationships in her wikipedia page. Then why can't you add Hailey in Shawn's wikipedia page? Like dating is a two sided thing. You should understand that. And moreover his relationship with Hailey Baldwin was confirmed by himself in the rolling stone interview (I have provided the link as well). This is NOT based on some mere speculations. There are proofs. So, please add in the Relationships part that: Shawn Mendes dated his highschool girlfriend Lauren Arendse for two years from 2013 to 2015. He dated American model Hailey Bieber from 2017 to 2018.Soumyosree (talk) 17:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Unclear where you actually want this adding. Amortias (T)(C) 17:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

@Soumyosree (courtesy ping) SoyokoAnis - talk 18:37, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. This is an encyclopedia. There is no reason to detail every routine dating relationship a person has had, especially if it's just assumed based on someone attending an event. There's no need for gossip column style writing here. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:26, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

References

Just a small question...

Well I am just a kid so would not know much but as far as I know Shawn's music, he does not use auto tune. Can someone please add in whether or not he uses auto tune. Just a small and humble request. Mknjn (talk) 20:08, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

No kiddoh. Shawn Mendes has vocals like Michael Jackson. He teaches the music how to sound right. You know what I mean? 208.98.223.46 (talk) 03:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Auto tune

Is auto tuned vocals singing? 208.98.223.46 (talk) 03:58, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

@208.98.223.46 As far as I know people can auto tune their vocals to sing I'm not sure if I am correct as I am only 13 years old. Mknjn2 (talk) 22:06, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

their voice* ( not vocals, it was a typo sorry) Mknjn2 (talk) 22:07, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Personal life

I have previously seen that Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello started dating again, I'm not sure as to whether it was removed due to it being wrong information or someone mistakenly removed it. Please can someone assist me in knowing what is the truth ( BTW I'm just a kid so I wouldn't know much)

Thank you for taking your valuable time to read this message 💜💙🙏 Mknjn2 (talk) 22:04, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2023

I would like to request that the sentence "He was raised in a religious family" be changed to "He was not raised in a religious family." In an interview on the Man Enough podcast with Justin Baldoni (June 28, 2021), Shawn specifically stated, "I grew up more or less atheist, now becoming much more spiritual and being sure there's a God. Music was the thing that did that for me." Gsgarciag (talk) 21:12, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 21:35, 11 June 2023 (UTC)