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== Contested deletion == |
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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because (1) it states importance on its face (international following) and (2) you nominated it for speedy deletion seconds after I first created it. [[User:Crypticfirefly|Crypticfirefly]] ([[User talk:Crypticfirefly|talk]]) 04:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC) To continue this discussion, now that I've dealt with a person who apparently doesn't understand that the ''Journal of American Folklore'' is indeed a reliable reference, please look at the guidelines here: [[Wikipedia:Notability (music)]] ''Forebitter'' falls under the category of "Other: For composers and performers outside mass media traditions" though it probably also falls under #7 for "musicians and ensembles" if you frame it as one of the best known proponents of sea chantey performance on the East Coast. [[User:Crypticfirefly|Crypticfirefly]] ([[User talk:Crypticfirefly|talk]]) 05:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Oh, and note the reissue of one of their albums by a '''French''' label, Le Chasse Maree. [[User:Crypticfirefly|Crypticfirefly]] ([[User talk:Crypticfirefly|talk]]) 06:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC) |
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because (1) it states importance on its face (international following) and (2) you nominated it for speedy deletion seconds after I first created it. [[User:Crypticfirefly|Crypticfirefly]] ([[User talk:Crypticfirefly|talk]]) 04:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC) To continue this discussion, now that I've dealt with a person who apparently doesn't understand that the ''Journal of American Folklore'' is indeed a reliable reference, please look at the guidelines here: [[Wikipedia:Notability (music)]] ''Forebitter'' falls under the category of "Other: For composers and performers outside mass media traditions" though it probably also falls under #7 for "musicians and ensembles" if you frame it as one of the best known proponents of sea chantey performance on the East Coast. [[User:Crypticfirefly|Crypticfirefly]] ([[User talk:Crypticfirefly|talk]]) 05:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Oh, and note the reissue of one of their albums by a '''French''' label, Le Chasse Maree. [[User:Crypticfirefly|Crypticfirefly]] ([[User talk:Crypticfirefly|talk]]) 06:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== The name of a band as the primary meaning of Forebitter == |
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A forebitter is a sea song which was sung in the forebitts; a part of the ship where social interactions took place. In other words, not a sea shanty in the pure sense of a working song. Presumably the band takes its name from this, but surely this primary meaning should get a mention. All we need is an authoritative source. Anyone got a copy of Hugill handy? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.207.225.38|84.207.225.38]] ([[User talk:84.207.225.38|talk]]) 09:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Contested deletion
[edit]This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because (1) it states importance on its face (international following) and (2) you nominated it for speedy deletion seconds after I first created it. Crypticfirefly (talk) 04:35, 20 October 2011 (UTC) To continue this discussion, now that I've dealt with a person who apparently doesn't understand that the Journal of American Folklore is indeed a reliable reference, please look at the guidelines here: Wikipedia:Notability (music) Forebitter falls under the category of "Other: For composers and performers outside mass media traditions" though it probably also falls under #7 for "musicians and ensembles" if you frame it as one of the best known proponents of sea chantey performance on the East Coast. Crypticfirefly (talk) 05:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC) Oh, and note the reissue of one of their albums by a French label, Le Chasse Maree. Crypticfirefly (talk) 06:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
The name of a band as the primary meaning of Forebitter
[edit]A forebitter is a sea song which was sung in the forebitts; a part of the ship where social interactions took place. In other words, not a sea shanty in the pure sense of a working song. Presumably the band takes its name from this, but surely this primary meaning should get a mention. All we need is an authoritative source. Anyone got a copy of Hugill handy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.207.225.38 (talk) 09:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)