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== Broadcast in Mexico ==
== Season 5 ==
This show is broadcast in Mexico by FOX channel in Cable and Satelite. It airs Mondays at 22:00, but I have no reference on when it premiered.
http://www.mundofox.com/series/the_unit/
[[User:Zunito|Zunito]] 04:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


Does anyone know if there will be a season 5 by anyone. Its such a amazing series!!!!!!!!!!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.173.100.140|86.173.100.140]] ([[User talk:86.173.100.140|talk]]) 18:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


There will not be a fifth season. ''The Unit'' has been cancelled. [[User:Tomm007|Tomm007]] ([[User talk:Tomm007|talk]]) 18:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
== Ratings ==
What's the best way to mention the terrific ratings that 'The Unit' got? --[[User:Mercury1|Mercury1]] 17:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


@Tomm007 I hope this is not correct, The Unit is an excellent show. I heard that the story
:Provide proof. Link to Nielsen ratings or reports of said ratings. That's my $0.02 American... [[User:TBrauns|Rockhound]] 02:03, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
lines for season five had been planned..?! This sort of show could continue into the generations with new actors and situations coming in over the years. Fingers cross for a 5th season - Lenny <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.74.36.72|121.74.36.72]] ([[User talk:121.74.36.72|talk]]) 07:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Factual error ==
== External links modified ==
Just wanted to report one factual error I noticed in the show. I do not know if that could be incorporated into the article or not. In the Episode 10 of the Season 1, Jonas Blane (Dennis Haybert) tells the telephone operator that her original location where she is talking from is Peshawar, India. Peshawar is located in Pakistan not India. {{unsigned|Chewy81}}


Hello fellow Wikipedians,
== Link Correction ==
Changed 2 references to Special Forces to direct to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Army_Special_Forces as they are refering in that case to US Army Special Forces (Green Berets). I left one pointing to Special Forces as it is more a discussion about the missions and may be the more general use. --[[User:BenWoodruff|BenWoodruff]] 21:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


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What type of PDAs/cell phones do the members of The Unit generally use? Might be an interesting piece of trivia. Also, is anyone familiar with what that exact "ringtone" is? I can't say it reminds me of any other cell phone.


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::: The PDA Haysbert uses to track the UAV looks like it's a clean up iPAQ with no logo, might be wrong about that though. The ringtone does indeed sound familiar. I think it's from Splinter Cell, which might be another inside reference, since Haysbert actually did some voice acting for Splinter Cell [[User:K.satirli|K.satirli]] 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


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== Cystal and Jeremy ==


== When did Wiki become IMDB? ==
These two characters have been in most episodes of the second season... shouldnt they be noted? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Paulley|Paulley]] ([[User talk:Paulley|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paulley|contribs]]) 12:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->


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== GREY AND WILLIAMS (RANK) ==


== Alternate callsigns ==
Grey and Williams are mid-level operators. They wouldn't have the same rank as Brown, a newbie to the Unit. Unless somebody has solid evidence I haven't seen proving that Williams and Grey aren't Sergeants First Class, I'm changing their rank to reflect their seniority to Brown. {{unsigned|24.174.190.247}}


Does the cast table really need to be stretched out and made hideously large with all the superfluous information regarding alternate callsigns of the operators? Having their widely used callsigns should be more than sufficient, and would streamline this section considerably.
:I removed their ranks altogether as it is unknown what their rank is. I don't recall it being mentioned in any of the episodes. -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] 05:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


[[User:Tomm007|Tomm007]] ([[User talk:Tomm007|talk]]) 19:03, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:::I agree and was gonna say something about it... Nicht Nein! 09:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


::::They're all at least Sergeants, that's for sure. In s2e17 Jonas defines his replacement order as follows: Gerhardt, Grey, Williams and then Brown. Further on only Mack had one the opportunity to command a own squad but declined hence Grey and Williams are below Master Sergeant and probably above Staff Sergeant and probably Sergeants First Class. However either Grey and Williams have no rank prefix or both should have the generic Sergeant prefix. Now Grey has nothing and Williams just Sergeant. SoN --[[User:212.41.85.34|212.41.85.34]] 00:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


I went ahead and made the changes, after no input for a few months. It certainly makes the cast table less cumbersome. If someone is keen on having the old info included, it might make more sense to add as notes under the table. Although those are also quite lengthy currently, with similar issues to the previous version of the cast table.
:::In s1e8 during interrogation Williams stated he was a Sergeant, yes this could just be writer mess up since in the episodes they are addressed as sergeant per Army way, but this is the only time where he would have be referred to as his actual rank. I did watch s2e17 last night and remember that statement well, but this is an unconventional unit and rank has little, and unit experience has more, to do with whom can better replace Blane and Gerhardt. Nicht Nein! 02:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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Explain to me how the newbie to the team would have a higher rank than two seniors.


[[User:Tomm007|Tomm007]] ([[User talk:Tomm007|talk]]) 16:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
They're higher than Brown, lower than Gerhardt.


== Summary needs sources ==
The only '''logical''' answer is Sergeant First Class.


Beginning with the second paragraph, the Summary section reads like a catalog of [[WP:OR|original research]], analysis and speculation. WP is not a Wikia fansite. We need sources for this information or it must come out of the article. The only cited sources support ratings, the cancellation announcement and the producers’ wishful thinking about what they might have done had the show not been canceled. Nothing else in the article is supported by citations. Adding a refimprove template. [[Special:Contributions/2603:9001:4500:1C09:3089:AC33:BA02:ED01|2603:9001:4500:1C09:3089:AC33:BA02:ED01]] ([[User talk:2603:9001:4500:1C09:3089:AC33:BA02:ED01|talk]]) 17:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
And trivia tidbit-in the Army, all sergeants from E-5 to First Sergeant (E-8) are referred to as "sergeant." First Sergeants and Sergeants Major are called by their full rank.

Believe me-I know what I'm talking about. Grey and Williams '''are''' Sergeants First Class. [[User:Steven Hildreth, Jr.|Steven Hildreth, Jr.]] 19:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

:I'm sorry, but just because you have real-life experience doesn't mean that you can definitively say what a television show is trying to do. For all we know they could completely eschew standard grade seniority in favour of their own system...we just don't know. It is precisely for that reason that Wikipedia demands that we only include information when it has been implicitely stated on the show or can be visually confirmed on the show (otherwise, this is called [[WP:OR|original research]]. I guarantee most people would agree with your summary of the situation, and I do as well (military as well), but it just isn't information we can use at this time. -- [[User:Huntster|<span style="font-size:13px; font-variant:small-caps; text-decoration:none;">Huntster</span>]] <sup style="font-size:9px;">[[User_talk:Huntster|T]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] • [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|C]]</sup> 20:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Then what about the book which the show is based upon? It corroborates what I've explained. [[User:Steven Hildreth, Jr.|Steven Hildreth, Jr.]] 20:37, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

:While the show is based on the book, they are not the same thing, and thus cannot be used as references for each other. It is ''based'' on the book, not a direct copy. I'm not trying to be a hardass, just trying to point out Wikipedia policy issues. -- [[User:Huntster|<span style="font-size:13px; font-variant:small-caps; text-decoration:none;">Huntster</span>]] <sup style="font-size:9px;">[[User_talk:Huntster|T]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] • [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|C]]</sup> 20:39, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

== 24 related trivia ==

During an episode in Season 1, the team is tasked with the mission to protect a guy named "Salazar". The funny thing is that a person named "Ramon Salazar" was one of the adversaries of Dennis Haysbert in Season 3 of "24". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_%28season_3%29 . I think this should be worked into the article too.[[User:K.satirli|K.satirli]] 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC) <!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

:Unless we have a statement from one of the creative people on one of these shows that says that there is a relationship, we can't put it in. [[User:Val42|Val42]] 02:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

:::It's trivia. I'm not saying there is a relationship, it's probably just a little easter egg they put in. The only thing that is really confirmed is that Haysbert appears in both shows. [[User:K.satirli|K.satirli]] 07:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

== Season 3 ==

Any word on a season 3 or cancellation? [[User:Cburnett|Cburnett]] 01:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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Season 5

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Does anyone know if there will be a season 5 by anyone. Its such a amazing series!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.100.140 (talk) 18:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There will not be a fifth season. The Unit has been cancelled. Tomm007 (talk) 18:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

@Tomm007 I hope this is not correct, The Unit is an excellent show. I heard that the story lines for season five had been planned..?! This sort of show could continue into the generations with new actors and situations coming in over the years. Fingers cross for a 5th season - Lenny — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.74.36.72 (talk) 07:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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When did Wiki become IMDB?

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The awards / nominations and crew sections don't belong on Wikipedia, at least not in their current state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomm007 (talkcontribs) 18:50, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate callsigns

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Does the cast table really need to be stretched out and made hideously large with all the superfluous information regarding alternate callsigns of the operators? Having their widely used callsigns should be more than sufficient, and would streamline this section considerably.

Tomm007 (talk) 19:03, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]


I went ahead and made the changes, after no input for a few months. It certainly makes the cast table less cumbersome. If someone is keen on having the old info included, it might make more sense to add as notes under the table. Although those are also quite lengthy currently, with similar issues to the previous version of the cast table.

Tomm007 (talk) 16:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Summary needs sources

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Beginning with the second paragraph, the Summary section reads like a catalog of original research, analysis and speculation. WP is not a Wikia fansite. We need sources for this information or it must come out of the article. The only cited sources support ratings, the cancellation announcement and the producers’ wishful thinking about what they might have done had the show not been canceled. Nothing else in the article is supported by citations. Adding a refimprove template. 2603:9001:4500:1C09:3089:AC33:BA02:ED01 (talk) 17:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]