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friends, you sure all these details are necessary?. It is not a biography that we are writing, are we? --[[User:Vrite2me|Vrite2me]] ([[User talk:Vrite2me|talk]]) 09:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Filmography ==

Can we just move the filmography to a new page called ''''Prithviraj Sukumaran filmography''''. Any thoughts message me. Thank you.[[User:Xxxsacheinxxx|Xxxsacheinxxx]] ([[User talk:Xxxsacheinxxx|talk]]) 18:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I support moving the filmography page to a seperate article. A good article on its expansion should split the sections across various sub articles. Otherwise, the article will appear too long and junk for a reader.
Cheers, --[[User:Rajithmohan | Rajith Mohan]] [[User_talk:Rajithmohan|<sup>(Talk to me..)</sup>]] 09:18, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
* Since none of the editors expressed any concerns about re-structuring the filmography, I would be initiating the changes soon in the article. Cheers, --[[User:Rajithmohan | Rajith Mohan]] [[User_talk:Rajithmohan|<sup>(Talk to me..)</sup>]] 09:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
** The full filmography is available at [[Prithviraj filmography]]. --[[User:Rajithmohan | Rajith Mohan]] [[User_talk:Rajithmohan|<sup>(Talk to me..)</sup>]] 09:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

=== [[WP:VAN|Vandalism]] by single person with multiple accounts ===

Below are the identified [[WP:SOCKS|sock puppets]] editing and vandalising ("Good hand, bad hand" accounts) the [[Prithviraj Sukumaran]] article. <br>
Checking sock puppets :

* {{user5|Wanderer123}}
* {{user5|218.186.12.209}} - Hostname cm209.omega12.maxonline.com.sg , ISP StarHub Cable Vision Ltd , Singapore
* {{user5|WikiEditorMandrake}}
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* {{user5|218.186.12.217}} - Hostname cm217.omega12.maxonline.com.sg , ISP StarHub Cable Vision Ltd, Singapore

The user accounts and the IP addresses will be blocked, if the reversion of the article is done without any reason. <br>
--[[User:Rajithmohan | Rajith Mohan]] [[User_talk:Rajithmohan|<sup>(Talk to me..)</sup>]] 12:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

==Semi protected==
The article is semi protected now, and the sock puppets indulged in edit wars are blocked. --[[User:Rajithmohan | Rajith Mohan]] [[User_talk:Rajithmohan|<sup>(Talk to me..)</sup>]] 03:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

== External link discussion ==

Per our [[WP:EL|external link guidelines]]: "it is not Wikipedia's purpose to include a comprehensive list of external links related to each topic. No page should be linked from a Wikipedia article unless its inclusion is justifiable." I have remove the multitudinous links from the article to the talk space to discuss which (if any) are supported by our external link guidelines and can be promoted by community consensus back into the article. -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;font-size:small;;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">The Red Pen of Doom</span>]] 14:07, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

===Interviews===

1) [http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Entertainment/Prithvirajs-meteoric-rise/articleshow/4323984.cms Prithviraj's Meteoric Rise] | (March, 2009) P Sangeetha in ''Times of India''

2) [http://www.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/malayalamContentView.do?pageType=Article&contentType=EDITORIAL&programId=1073752204&articleType=Movies&tabId=3&contentId=3973588&BV_ID=@@@ Nostalgia of a Thrilling Himalayan Tour ("Himalayam Karangiya Thrillil")] | (May, 2008) M S Dileep, Manorama Online)

3) [http://entertainment.in.msn.com/southcinema/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1219581 Prithviraj Wins Hearts ] | (February, 2008) Anonymous (Republished in MSN India from Filmy South)

4) [http://video.webindia123.com/interviews/actors/prithviraj/index.htm Impeccable Masquerader of the Celluloid] | (Video Interview: Undated) In WebIndia123.com

5) [http://specials.rediff.com/movies/2007/mar/22sld1.htm The Man Behind Mozhi] | (March, 2007) Shobha Warrier in ''Rediff.com''

6) [http://www.nowrunning.com/news/news.asp?id=9672 Prithviraj : Reveals his Experience in Film Industry] | (February, 2007) Unni Nair in ''Nowrunning.com''

7) [http://malayalam.indiavilas.com/movieinfo.asp?l=m&f=Interview&g=2466 Prithviraj Never Fails] | (September, 2006) In ''IndiaVilas.com''

8) [http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/malayalam/interview/6450.html Sincerity is his Forte] | (October, 2005) In ''Indiaglitz''

===Articles from the Media===

9) [http://www.hindu.com/mp/2007/10/11/stories/2007101151650100.htm Prithvi Loves...] ([[October 11]] [[2007]]) P.M in The Hindu

10) [http://www.musicindiaonline.com/n/i/malayalam/2290/ Prithviraj Constantly Proving Himself] ([[April 19]] [[2007]]) MIO Team In Musicindiaonline.com

11) [http://www.apunkachoice.com/scoop/downsouth/malayalam/20070411-0.html Prithviraj on the Fast Lane to Superstardom!] ([[April 11]] [[2007]]) P. Sreekumaran In Apunkachoice.com

12) [http://news.oneindia.mobi/2006/07/05/121790.html Prithviraj is Hot Property] (July 5, 2006) In Oneindia.in

13) [http://www.thehindu.com/thehindu/lf/2004/04/30/stories/2004043001070200.htm Defying the Ban] (April 30 2004) Renu Ramanath In The Hindu

=== Discussion ===
Please identify any link(s) you feel meet our external link criteria and explain why they should be returned. (also note that any links to [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] can be used to support encyclopedic content within the main aritcle space itself. this is generally a better idea than tagging it on the end as an external link.) -- [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;font-size:small;;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">The Red Pen of Doom</span>]] 14:07, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Excessive Trimming ??!! ==

I see that the some sections have been trimmed mercilessly by [[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span style="color:red;font-size:small;;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">The Red Pen of Doom</span>]]. Now the article has no facts at all, just blunt statements.

See these two statements,

* He '''performed''' in Stop Violence and Swapnakoodu.

* Prithviraj '''performed''' in Parijatham and in 2007's Mozhi.

What does "Performed" mean here? I didnt quite understand why its used. All actors perform in their films. What is special about using the word performed here?

The trimming of facts have made this an un-imaginitive article, which goes on stating he "performed" in this, acted in that.. etc..

If the significance of those films in his career isnt mentioned, it serves no better than the filmography section.

- [[User:Icedaddycool|Icedaddycool]] ([[User talk:Icedaddycool|talk]]) 08:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:As I stated on your talk page:
::See our policies of [[WP:V|verifiability]] and [[WP:OR|no original research]]. Any analysis or interpretation other than simple statements like: "Prithviraj Sukumaran performed in X movie" will need to be backed up by a statement in a [[WP:RS|published reliable source]].

== Fan site? ==

'Mr LA FEST' title is just an inter school title- no big deal. I think it should be deleted.I don't think its as prestigious as the youth festivals(Kerala,CBSE, M G,Calicut etc).Gonna delete in 3 days-after hearing suggestions. ([[User:Gokucherai12|Gokucherai12]] ([[User talk:Gokucherai12|talk]]) 21:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)).

==State of Kerala duplication==
This article is substantially duplicated in [http://www.stateofkerala.in/news/prithviraj.php], but there is little doubt the content was published on Wikipedia first. The internet archives do not contain archived versions of the external site, but this is not conclusive. More indicative, there is evidence of natural evolution in this article. Take this particular passage from the external source:
{{quotation|Prithviraj began his career in Malayalam cinema in 2002. The The Hindu commented in 2007 that Prithviraj would remain one of the young stars in the reckoning irrespective of the box office prospects of his films. He has been offered a role in the multilingual film 19th Step starring Asin and Japanese actor Tadanobu Asano, scripted by M T Vasudevan Nair and directed by Bharath Bala in association with Walt Disney.}}

The first sentence began to evolve in this article as "Prithviraj began his career in Malayalam in 2002." [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prithviraj_Sukumaran&action=historysubmit&diff=173911430&oldid=173710070 in November 2007].
On [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prithviraj_Sukumaran&diff=prev&oldid=235238309 30 August 2008], the word "cinema" was added, to make the sentence read as it currently does. At that point, the second sentence existed in our article as "Based on his enthralling performances, national Newspaper The Hindu has written that '(whether)his latest films 'Chocolate,’ ‘Satham Podathey’ and ‘Kannamoochi Yenada’ flop or succeed, Prithiviraj is one of the young stars who will still be in the reckoning.'" It was later changed to the paraphrase used now, perhaps in respect to [[WP:NFC|non-free content guidelines]], which require citations for quoted text. --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 17:42, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


== Page Title ==

The title '''Prithviraj (Malayalam actor)''' is inappropriate as Prithviraj has been doing films in Tamil, Telugu also. Its not fair to restrict him as a Malayalam actor only.

It would be ideal to revert back to [Prithviraj Sukumaran] or [Prithviraj (actor)]

[[User:Icedaddycool|Icedaddycool]] ([[User talk:Icedaddycool|talk]]) 14:47, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

:: I don't think that a name change is required for the article. Since '''Prithviraj Sukumaran''' is his full name, there is no wrong in keeping it as the article name. Cheers, --[[User:Rajithmohan | Rajith Mohan]] [[User_talk:Rajithmohan|<sup>(Talk to me..)</sup>]] 04:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I beg to differ. His popular name/common name/stage name is "Prithviraj". Therefore, AFAIK Wikipedia uses a naming convention where by the title should be "<b>Prithviraj</b><space><b>(</b><something><b>)</b>". I have tried to explain my views to [[User:Icedaddycool|Icedaddycool]] at [[User_talk:Arjun024#Prithviraj_Sukumaran|my talk page]]. Cheers! '''[[User:Arjun024|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:14px">Arjun</span>]]'''[[User talk:Arjun024|<span style="font-family:Lucida Console;font-size:14px"><sup>codename'''024'''</sup></span>]] 09:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Prithviraj (actor)''' was my first choice and i did move ([http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prithviraj_Sukumaran&action=historysubmit&diff=367995175&oldid=367994748]), but was immediately re-moved by [[User:Icedaddycool|Icedaddycool]]. If there ain't any objection to this; it could be done and kept until someone else registers their protest. Plus, i am a bit appalled by some [[WP:OWN|page owning]] in the air. '''[[User:Arjun024|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:14px">Arjun</span>]]'''[[User talk:Arjun024|<span style="font-family:Lucida Console;font-size:14px"><sup>codename'''024'''</sup></span>]] 09:46, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

== ISO romanisation ==

I added the [[ISO 15919]] romanisaton of Prithviraj's name in addition to his name in the Malayalam script. His name is written as ''Pr̥thvirāj Sukumāran'' in ISO, which corresponds to ''പൃഥ്വിരാജ് സുകുമാരന്'' in Malayalam. Thanks! Yours faithfully, [[User:Kotakkasut|<font color="black">kotak</font>]][[User talk:Kotakkasut|<font color="black">kasut</font>]]. 02:51, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


==Wrong Title !!!!==

Why was this article moved from "[[Prithviraj Sukumaran]]" to "Prithviraj Sukumaran Nair" ??

Prithviraj might be from the Nair caste by lineage, but neither he nor his father, the late actor "Sukumaran" , ever attached "Nair" to their first names. Sukumaran was a Communist Party sympathizer, so he had cut off the caste name "Nair" from his name like all Communist ideologists cut off all ties to religion. Prithviraj too on several occasions have indirectly stated that he's an atheist and a Communist party sympathizer through his interviews. So there's no basis for usage of "Nair" attached to his name.

Secondly, there is no article / document / proof available anywhere in the media where Prithviraj is referred to as "Prithviraj Sukumaran Nair" or "Prithviraj Nair". This is because Prithviraj has mostly preferred to be known by his first name i.e Prithviraj or on rare occasions as "Prithviraj Sukumaran". Also the name on Prithviraj's official Twitter account is "Prithviraj Sukumaran" [ www.twitter.com/lionheart_ps ]

So this article has to be moved back to its original title as soon as possible.

All the discussions are still available on the Discussion page of [[Prithviraj Sukumaran]]

- [[User:Icedaddycool|Icedaddycool]] ([[User talk:Icedaddycool|talk]]) 14:05, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

== Filmography ==

Since his list of films is growing, I plan to separate it into different tables based on language. That will look better, I feel. Later we may have to move the entire article as a separate article. Any objections or suggestions, please tell here. <br/>'''[[User:Anishviswa|<font style="font-family:monotype corsiva; color:#2554c7; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:1px; font-style: italic; background-color:#ffe87c; text-align:center; margin:0px;">Anish Viswa </font>]]''' 04:49, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

== Marriage date ==

Looks like the marriage date of Prithviraj given in the article as 29 April 2011 is wrong. It was 4-5 days before that. Can someone update it? [[User:Pranchiyettan|Pranchiyettan]] ([[User talk:Pranchiyettan|talk]]) 15:12, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

== Other Names ==

Some of the people are making problem with the other name of [[Prithviraj Sukumaran]]. These guys are updating other name as Rajappan. Which is definitely not the official other name of Prithviraj. So I request every members of Wikipedia not update his name as 'Rajappan'. It is just a mocking name given by his haters!
<br> Please keep the wikipedia clean. This is not some haters club.

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