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Should Zemmour should be described as Jewish in the lead? [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 03:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
===Survey===
*'''No''' being Jewish is not directly relevant to his career, it should be mentioned in the body only. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 03:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''Depends'''. I don't totally agree with the notion that it's irrelevant to his career: it's a big thing in his discourse and image. But I would reserve my judgement for a concrete proposal on how to introduce it. For instance, I don't think that it should be mentioned in the [[MOS:OPEN|opening paragraph]]. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 07:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''Yes'''. I am able to readily find reliable sources which confirm that Zemmour is Jewish, several of which point that out as a particularly notable fact about him given his positions: [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/world/europe/eric-zemmour-france-jewish-bernard-henri-levy.html], [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/08/same-old-french-far-right-the-meteoric-rise-of-eric-zemmour], [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/world/europe/eric-zemmour-macron-france-election.html], [https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/meet-the-far-right-jew-whos-set-to-seek-the-french-presidency-analysis-684019]. Given this, I believe it is a significant enough fact about him to merit mention in the lead section. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 08:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
:* To your credit you build your arguments using sources, but your sourcing is NY Times x 2, The Guardian x 1 and Jerusalem Post x 1 - in my opinion the [[WP:BESTSOURCES]] are likely published in France or written in French. This is not the ''United Kingdom Wikipedia'' or the ''American Wikipedia'' after all even if for instance The Guardian is frequently used as a source because its articles aren't behind a paywall. For instance, doing as you suggest would risk completely ignoring German scholarship/expertise and they should also be taken into account. [[User:1Kwords|A Thousand Words]] ([[User talk:1Kwords|talk]]) 16:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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::*Reliable sources are reliable. Where they are based, and what language they are in, is irrelevant. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:05, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
:::* Reliable sources are reliable only in the eyes of the beholder. Something that is reliable in America may not be as trustworthy in Mexico or Canada. A French-language source would be immeasurably more useful than an English-language source as the French language source provides a domestic perspective. [[User:TheTrainCrazyMan|TheTrainCrazyMan]] ([[User talk:TheTrainCrazyMan|talk]]) 12:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
::::*Only the first article of the NYT and the article of the Jerusalem Post do describe him as Jewish in the lead. He is genuinely never described in the press as a Jewish political figure, except in Jewish press ( or Israeli) or in the case of articles putting an emphasis on his origin because the article is also about controversial political positions he expressed on Jews.--[[User:Vanlister|Vanlister]] ([[User talk:Vanlister|talk]]) 09:44, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''Depends'''. I agree with {{u|JBchrch}} and his reasoning.--[[User:Emigré55|Emigré55]] ([[User talk:Emigré55|talk]]) 10:00, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
*Certainly '''not''' in the lede ''per se''. We shouldn't be saying "French Jewish political journalist" or such like. Somewhere in the rather long lead section? Maybe, but I'd want to see the proposed edit and context. It's mentioned in the early life section right after at present, which seems to me on balance likely best. For example the above-cited ''Guardian'' article mentions it... in paragraph ''ten''. After a polling graph, more than halfway through their article. Not exactly a strong argument the it's "particularly notable" and thus should be given much greater prominence here. [[Special:Contributions/109.255.211.6|109.255.211.6]] ([[User talk:109.255.211.6|talk]]) 15:29, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
:*What do you mean by "lead per se"? Do you mean the opening sentence, or maybe the opening paragraph? Anything that comes before the first section heading, including infoboxes, are technically in the lead. So in other words, this RfC asks whether the information should be mentioned at any point before the first section heading. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 00:45, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
::*No, that'd be the "lead section", not the "lede", technically and otherwise. But admittedly it's somewhat ambiguous as to "sentence" or "paragraph", and my precise position would be extremely strongly against lead sentence, fairly strongly against lead paragraph, and as to the entire introduction, just as I stated above. [[Special:Contributions/109.255.211.6|109.255.211.6]] ([[User talk:109.255.211.6|talk]]) 23:23, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
:::*I'm not clear on the terminology that you're using. See also [[MOS:LEAD]]: {{tq|The '''lead section''' (also known as the '''lead''' or '''introduction''') of a Wikipedia article is the section before the table of contents and the first heading}}, the beginning of which are technically referred to as the "[[MOS:OPEN|opening paragraph]]" and the "[[MOS:FIRST|first sentence]]". {{Reply|Hemiauchenia}} How should the term "lead" be understood in your RfC? [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 23:58, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
::: The lead section, the whole section prior to table of contents. I don't think anyone was advocating for Zemmour to be described as jewish in the opening sentence. A potential placement of Zemmour's jewishness somewhere in the lead is of course a possible outcome of this RfC, provided that the appropriate context be supplied. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 00:06, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''No''', because he describes himself as French and not as Jewish, and use the form 'French people of Jewish faith', since he is critical of communitarianism and in favor of "assimilation". French media do not take much care of his Jewish origin since he is considered a French polemicist and not a Jewish polemicist. Jewish identity is not part of his political views, and he has even expressed criticism of Judaism, Jewish individuals and the Jewish community. In the French context, only antisemitic political opponents would use his Jewish origin to discredit him as not a "français de souche". Secondly in contrast, none of the French political figures of Jewish origin are described as such in the lead, and it is also difficult to describe Jewish identity as it can be a cultural, religious, ethnic or national affiliation. His Jewish identity should not be put forward in the lead, but rather in the section about his early life and his family background.--[[User:Vanlister|Vanlister]] ([[User talk:Vanlister|talk]]) 09:37, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''No''' I agree with Vanlister's comment above. I would also like to add that few people place importance on his Jewishness, except another condemned far-right hate figure, [[Alain Soral]]. [https://chlomohebdo.com/alain-soral-eric-zemmour-prouve-que-les-juifs-sont-partout-meme-a-lextreme-droite-francaise/] Even an Israeli source such as this one, while mentioning Jewishness, put more emphasis on his hate condemnations, his far-right ideology, his lies and other comparisons with Trump. [https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-eric-zemmour-isn-t-france-s-donald-trump-he-s-far-worse-1.10321645] [[User:Munci|Munci]] ([[User talk:Munci|talk]]) 04:43, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''Yes''' The fact that zemmour is of North African Jewish origin is important in his argument. He has repeatedly used his North African Jewish origins as an argument to attack North African Muslims. He regularly accuses Muslims of not wanting to integrate into French society when he, a Berber Jewish, has succeeded. He constantly compares the integration of Jews in France, which he considers successful and voluntary, to that of Muslims, whom he says deliberately do not want to integrate because, according to him, they have a vengeful and colonialist attitude. His comparison between his career and that of Muslim migrants is at the heart of his argument on the Great Replacement. On the set of the show "On est pas couché", he also opposed the attitude and his Jewish family who practiced, according to him, a Judaism compatible with the French notion of secularism and opposed to proselytizing and the aggressiveness he attributes to Muslims. He still recently used his own Jewishness to refute accusations of anti-Semitism against a family of bomb victims who had buried their children in Israel (He said that the "real French" must be buried in France). He spends his time criticizing new migrants, comparing their situation to his, which he considers exemplary, and playing on the nostalgia for the 1950's assimilation policies when his family arrived in France.Jean-Marie Le Pen, who supported him, also asserts that Zemmour, because of his Jewishness, can express far-right ideas in a more brutal way because he is less likely to be accused of anti-Semitism by the various anti-racist associations (Which is false because Zemmour was condemned by the French justice.). Look at that [https://theconversation.com/eric-zemmour-jewish-heritage-is-a-useful-tool-for-the-french-far-right-170838 https://theconversation.com/eric-zemmour-jewish-heritage-is-a-useful-tool-for-the-french-far-right-170838] [[User:Monsieur Fou|Monsieur Fou]] ([[User talk:Monsieur Fou|talk]])
**I think you have made many assumptions focusing on his Jewish roots that are your personal way of understanding his political views. For my part, I didn't see Zemmour using "repeatedly his North African Jewish origins" for political purpose, and in fact he has expressed repeatedly his support for assimilation and against communitarianism. I also don't believe that somebody who would brand himself as Jewish would taste a pork sausage at a festival last week. --[[User:Vanlister|Vanlister]] ([[User talk:Vanlister|talk]]) 10:18, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''Yes'''. Zemmour's ethnic and religious background of being raised in a family of Algerian Jewish immigrants is notable and relevant enough to be included in a biographical lede. This New York Times article explicitly references Zemmour's being Jewish in its article headline and lede material: "A Jewish Far-Right Pundit Splits the French Jewish Community as He Rises."[https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/world/europe/eric-zemmour-france-jewish-bernard-henri-levy.html] And, per this Times of Israel article, in which Zemmour is described as "a Jewish journalist and far-right provocateur," he is actually being accused of antisemitism by France’s chief rabbi.[https://www.timesofisrael.com/frances-chief-rabbi-jewish-presidential-hopeful-is-an-antisemite/] So Zemmour's Jewish background is a very important and relevant biographical fact to mention. [[User:KJS ml343x|KJS ml343x]] ([[User talk:KJS ml343x|talk]]) 04:26, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
*'''Yes'''. There has been much discussion over Zemmour's comments about Petain and Vichy France's treatment of French Jews, as well as of his attitude to religion and immigration in France. His own religious background and his family's immigration are both of importance in this discussion (esp. with regards to his comments on Petain, which lead to his being labelled an anti-semite, somewhat paradoxically). [[User:Hfrbasp|Hfrbasp]] ([[User talk:Hfrbasp|talk]]) 19:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC) hfrbasp
*'''Yes'''. It is an established fact in French sources, for example in [[Le Monde]] ([https://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2021/10/25/eric-zemmour-provoque-le-malaise-chez-les-francais-juifs_6099780_823448.html]), [[Marianne (magazine)|Marianne]] ([https://www.marianne.net/politique/droite/extrait-comment-zemmour-a-seme-la-zizanie-chez-les-juifs]), [[Libération]] ([https://www.liberation.fr/idees-et-debats/tribunes/quelle-importance-que-zemmour-soit-juif-20211104_2T3OJK6MPJDW5E4W4UKTKDCPFA/]), [[La Dépêche du Midi]] ([https://www.ladepeche.fr/2021/11/29/eric-zemmour-doit-se-declarer-ce-mardi-10-infos-meconnues-sur-le-futur-candidat-a-la-presidentielle-9959582.php]). Regards, [[User:Comte0|Comte0]] ([[User talk:Comte0|talk]]) 06:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
*'''No''', what's the point. Religion/ethnicity isn't usually noted in the lead, and isn't central to his policies.--[[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] ([[User talk:Ortizesp|talk]]) 21:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

===Discussion===
* {{Ping|Vanlister}}, who has previously expressed an opinion on this topic. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 03:36, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' Seraphimblade is on the right track using sources to determine what the article should say. It seems likely the [[WP:BESTSOURCES]] to determine a good description are likely written in French. In this case I don't think exclusively relying on English-lanugage sources will suffice. Imho sources in French, Italian, Spanish and/or German should be taken into account - these are large countries and a lot of good texts are published there. [[User:1Kwords|A Thousand Words]] ([[User talk:1Kwords|talk]]) 16:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
:* Yes, I agree there's a clear need to take French sources into account, given their greater attention to this subject than English-language ones. The "other large countries are available" point seems much vaguer. If I may quote from [[WP:NONENG]], "However, because this project is in English, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones when available and of equal quality and relevance." What superior sources in Italian, etc, are being overlooked, and to what significance here? [[Special:Contributions/109.255.211.6|109.255.211.6]] ([[User talk:109.255.211.6|talk]]) 23:29, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

== Yet another removal ==

''A number of publications have labeled his positions as [[Misogyny|misogynistic]].<ref name=":2" /><ref name=":3" /><ref name=":5" /><ref name=":1" /><ref name=":6">{{Cite web|date=2021-11-02|title=Zemmour et les femmes : on a lu " le Premier Sexe ", le bréviaire misogyne qui a lancé le polémiste|url=https://www.nouvelobs.com/election-presidentielle-2022/20211102.OBS50564/zemmour-et-les-femmes-on-a-lu-le-premier-sexe-le-breviaire-misogyne-qui-a-lance-le-polemiste.html|access-date=2021-12-08|website=L'Obs|language=fr}}</ref>''

Why does his opinions have to be reviewed by Wikipedia. Do we not trust the readers to draw their own opinions without letting his political enemies define them? In [[Political positions of Joe Biden]] there are no criticism of the President's views. [[User:Creuzbourg|Creuzbourg]] ([[User talk:Creuzbourg|talk]]) 21:52, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

:What is your point exactly, {{u|Creuzbourg}}? <span style="background-color:#20B2AA;padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px">[[User:A._C._Santacruz|<span style="color:#fff">Santacruz</span>]] <span style="color:#fff">&#8258;</span> [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|<span style="color:#fff">Please ping me!</span>]]</span> 21:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

:Wikipedia doesn't label them. The ''reliable sources'' label them. When 6 separate publications labelling his position as misogynistic. That's what the article needs to say. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 22:13, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

::{{u|JBchrch}} My point is that the reader can label his opinions, we do not need to tell them what to think. Its clearly stated in the first paragraph, that he opposes abortion, thinks some women are unsuited for political positions, and doesn't like birth control, women's rights and gender studies. Isn't that enough for the reader to draw his own conclusions? [[User:Creuzbourg|Creuzbourg]] ([[User talk:Creuzbourg|talk]]) 22:31, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

:::I honestly cannot give you a straight answer to your question. All I know is that when I wrote the section, I noticed that ''a lot'' of sources mentioned the fact that his positions are characterized as misogynistic. I can assure you that I did not go out of my way to find sources that specifically said that. Accordingly, it seemed well-documented enough to warrant inclusion in the article. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 22:38, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

::::{{u|JBchrch}} Its not about the reliability of the sources; I would trust these papers to give me non-biased facts about the guy. But labeling him 'misogynist' is not; its done by journalists expressing their personal and political opinions in [[op-ed]] pieces. If the statement came from a professor of the history of ideas, hower, I would reconsider. As it stands now, its the very opposite of NPOV. They are not really claiming he is a 'misogyn', they are just saying that they don't like his ideas. [[User:Creuzbourg|Creuzbourg]] ([[User talk:Creuzbourg|talk]]) 12:55, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

:::::I don't see how "op-ed" is verifiable in the sources, but if that allows us to reach consensus then so be it. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 13:04, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

::::::Having conceded that, isn't it time to consider [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view]]: ''Avoid stating opinions as facts''? [[User:Creuzbourg|Creuzbourg]] ([[User talk:Creuzbourg|talk]]) 13:10, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

:::::::{{u|Creuzbourg}} the sentence doesn't state it as fact. To do so would be to say "he is a misogynist." <span style="background-color:#20B2AA;padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px">[[User:A._C._Santacruz|<span style="color:#fff">Santacruz</span>]] <span style="color:#fff">&#8258;</span> [[User talk:A._C._Santacruz|<span style="color:#fff">Please ping me!</span>]]</span> 13:12, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
:::::::A breach of this rule would be to say that "Zemmour's views are misogynistic". It is not a breach to say that publications or critics have stated this. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 13:12, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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::::::::My two cents is that noting they are misogynistic is not required. Seems more of an opinion than a fact of some writers.--[[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] ([[User talk:Ortizesp|talk]]) 21:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

:@[[User:Ortizesp|Ortizesp]] Saying that something is misogynistic is an opinion by definition. If you take a look at the sources, you will see that most of them report the label as [[WP:SECONDARY]] sources on such labeling. We cannot ignore what an overwhelming number of reliable sources are trying to tell us. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 21:25, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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"Far-right" in French politics (socialist country at the core) is the equivalent of moderate / republican in the USA.
This man isn't Far right at all but more like a republican Orthodox [[Special:Contributions/2601:644:4300:DCF0:0:0:0:6478|2601:644:4300:DCF0:0:0:0:6478]] ([[User talk:2601:644:4300:DCF0:0:0:0:6478|talk]]) 14:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
It is dishonest to simply translate the terms used in mostly left newspapers and medias to describe the political orientation in an article for English-speakers. [[Special:Contributions/210.3.237.106|210.3.237.106]] ([[User talk:210.3.237.106|talk]]) 01:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{tlx|edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> See discussion above. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 14:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{tlx|edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2; font-family: Microsoft Sans Serif; letter-spacing: -.3px;">'''Formal'''{{color|black|'''Dude'''}}</span>]] <span style="border-radius:7em;padding:2.5px 3.5px;background:#005bed;font-size:76%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 01:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

== WikiZédia ==

Information from this article [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/17/french-reporter-infiltrates-campaign-of-far-right-presidential-candidate-eric-zemnour-france] could be included at our article. It is due weight. [[User:Cinadon36|<b style="display:inline; color:#008000;">Cinadon</b>]][[User Talk:Cinadon36|<b style="display:inline; color:#c0c0c0;">36</b>]] 15:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

:Apparently this is the main source: [https://www.editionsgouttedor.com/single-post/au-cœur-du-z-un-journaliste-a-infiltré-la-campagne-d-éric-zemmour]. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 15:51, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

:: {{re|Cinadon36|JBchrch}} That is part of an organized operation. See next section. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 21:33, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


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== Citation overkill ==
This article is being edited by members of a task force attached to the Zemmour campaign. Please see [[WP:VPM#WikiZedia: an organized influence operation at Wikipedia by the campaign of a candidate for French President]]. Thanks, [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 21:33, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
: I think this campaign was largely focused on FrWiki, which his voting population is more likely to read. There has been comparatively relatively little disruption here. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 21:42, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
:I concur with @[[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]]. I took a look at this some weeks ago when I attempted a clean-up of the article, and I did not notice any suspicious activity. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 23:49, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


I see a citation overkill in A and B notes on the start of the page. This makes me question; what the fuck is this? -'''[[User:Pallit-on|Pallit-on]]''' - [[user talk:Pallit-on|Say something]] - 14:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
== COI tag (February 2022) ==


So, i found even more unneccessary citations... -'''[[User:Pallit-on|Pallit-on]]''' - [[user talk:Pallit-on|Say something]] - 14:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
see [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#WikiZedia:_an_organized_influence_operation_at_Wikipedia_by_the_campaign_of_a_candidate_for_French_President]] [[User:AFreshStart|AFreshStart]] ([[User talk:AFreshStart|talk]]) 23:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
:I've removed the tag because this article does not have COI issues. I think that there is a better case for the COI tag on [[Reconquête]], which has been extensively edited by {{userlinks|Cheep}}, who is associated with the campaign. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 23:46, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
: Check the history of this page to understand the history of the debate. [[User:Munci|Munci]] ([[User talk:Munci|talk]]) 17:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
:@[[User:Pallit-on|Pallit-on]] The bottom line is that someone needs to clean that up and retain only the most relevant refs, but no one has had the willpower to do so. Probably because it's been the most controversial aspect of this article and almost guaranteed to be [[WP:BRD|BRD]]'d. [[User:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">'''JBchrch'''</span>]] [[User_talk:JBchrch|<span style="color:#494e52">talk</span>]] 17:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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"Far-right" in French politics (socialist country at the core) is the equivalent of moderate / republican in the USA. It is dishonest to simply translate the terms used in mostly left newspapers and medias to describe the political orientation in an article for English-speakers. 210.3.237.106 (talk) 01:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Citation overkill

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I see a citation overkill in A and B notes on the start of the page. This makes me question; what the fuck is this? -Pallit-on - Say something - 14:18, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So, i found even more unneccessary citations... -Pallit-on - Say something - 14:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Check the history of this page to understand the history of the debate. Munci (talk) 17:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Pallit-on The bottom line is that someone needs to clean that up and retain only the most relevant refs, but no one has had the willpower to do so. Probably because it's been the most controversial aspect of this article and almost guaranteed to be BRD'd. JBchrch talk 17:45, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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