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== Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2021 == |
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Please discuss below whether to split [[The Powerpuff Girls]] into [[The Powerpuff Girls]] and [[Powerpuff Girls (franchise)]], as proposed by [[user:StarTrekker|StarTrekker]]. |
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{{ping|StarTrekker}} Please explain your reasons for proposing the split below. [[User:Felix QW|Felix QW]] ([[User talk:Felix QW|talk]]) 20:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:Well, there already are two articles now, so a "split" technically isn't needed. But for the sake of clarity, I think the two should be separate because there is way too much information on the main TV series page about spin-offs of spin-offs that aren't technically even that connected to the original series, a franchise page is far more helpful for that. There are now 3 TV series with another one on the way, more than enough for a franchise article.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|talk]]) 12:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}. ‑‑[[User:Volteer1|Volteer1]] ([[User talk:Volteer1|talk]]) 07:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC) |
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::I have just opened the split discussion here since it was proposed on [[WP:Proposed splits]], and there seems to have been some resistance to it in the past. By having it open as a discussion here, one can hopefully prevent redirection-wars as in 2022. [[User:Felix QW|Felix QW]] ([[User talk:Felix QW|talk]]) 12:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:Cartoon Network '''canceled''' the show and <u>'''''updated'''''</u> it 🫣😱😑 [[Special:Contributions/75.129.125.47|75.129.125.47]] ([[User talk:75.129.125.47|talk]]) 02:46, 2 June 2022 (UTC) |
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:::I always opposed to the split. There was never a consensus about the creation of the Franchise article (which was created by an IP). Significant discussion on this topic took place on [[Talk:The Powerpuff Girls/Archive 4#Splitting proposal]]. My main reason to oppose was that having another PPG article would serve nothing that the existent articles already accomplish on their own, since each iteration of the show has its own derivative media (comic books, DVD releases, toys, videogames, specials, and whatnot). The franchise article puts it all together, almost without differentiating, and has a couple of sections that count as [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections|Trivia]]. [[User:JBOOK17|JBOOK17]] ([[User talk:JBOOK17|talk]]) 16:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Most of the information about the other media doesn't belong on the TV series article at all, most of it should be removed and kept on this page. Spin-offs from spin-offs don't need to take up space on the article that is supposed to be about a TV series. As of now the ''The Powerpuff Girls'' article is like some hybrid of franchise and TV series article. Imagine in the article for the [[Ben 10 (2005 TV series)|original ''Ben 10'' series]] had everything from the [[Ben 10|''Ben 10'' franchise]] article crammed into it as well. The TV series article should be expanded with information that is actually about the ''series itself'', its critical reception section is way too small (in my opinion) for a series that was as big as it was for example, and academic analysis should be added too, there could be more about its influence on animation, artists it has inspired, not just a list of media from the same franchise that came after it.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|talk]]) 18:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' Why does [[The Powerpuff Girls (franchise)]] article exist at all? The information is already summed up under "Merchandise and media", and the article just duplicates things already said in their respective articles. - [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 01:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC) |
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***Almost everything is based on the original TV series though? This does not include the reboot or [[Powerpuff Girls Z]], but they are still mentioned in this article. - [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 03:39, 23 May 2023 (UTC) |
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***Also I just checked, and almost all of the linked items at [[The Powerpuff Girls (franchise)]] are redirects (also summarized here in their own sections "PPGZ ect..)) that link to articles that link back to here. - [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 03:43, 23 May 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' like I've said before, the Franchise article only recolects information that belongs to other articles (mostly the one about the original cartoon). A desambiguation page would have been enough. [[User:JBOOK17|JBOOK17]] ([[User talk:JBOOK17|talk]]) 01:40, 27 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== The Powerpuff Girls == |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2021 == |
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[[The Powerpuff Girls]] |
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I want to edit. But fuckin Canterbury tail did it. |
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this episode '''Season 4 Ep 10 Helter Shelter/Power Lunch''' should be in '''Season 3 Ep 13''' |
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H [[User:Hhcfyfyb|Hhcfyfyb]] ([[User talk:Hhcfyfyb|talk]]) 12:00, 9 August 2021 (UTC) |
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[[Special:Contributions/2A01:261:0:3:0:0:0:F90E|2A01:261:0:3:0:0:0:F90E]] ([[User talk:2A01:261:0:3:0:0:0:F90E|talk]]) 08:20, 24 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Stylization as <b>THE POWERPUFF G<span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">ǐ</span>RLS</b> == |
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== oldest, middle and youngest child. == |
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This is how the logo is stylized, so can we specify that on the article? [[User:Faster than Thunder|Faster than Thunder]] ([[User talk:Faster than Thunder|talk]]) 05:32, 26 November 2021 (UTC) |
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Among the latest change in the article is a claim that the main characters have the traits of the "oldest, middle and youngest child." despite being [[triplets]]. Can this be clarified a bit? Which of them is supposed to represent what? Per the description in the article and my own impression: |
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*Blossom is the highly intelligent and determined leader. |
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== Edit request for Craig Kellman wikilink == |
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*Bubbles is deceptively sweet, but has [[anger management]] issues. She is also the [[linguist]] and [[translator]] of the trio, since she speaks in multiple languages. |
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*Buttercup is a highly [[aggressive]] [[tomboy]], and actually enjoys fighting. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 21:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Hello! I wanted to suggest adding a link to [[Craig Kellman]]'s page in the "[[The_Powerpuff_Girls#Awards_and_nominations|Awards and nominations]]" section. ~[[User:Tokenuser123|𝗮𝗺𝗽𝘀]] <sup>♥[[User talk:Tokenuser123| talk ]]♥[[Special:Contributions/Tokenuser123| contributions ]] ♥</sup> 22:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:Added. Thank you. — [[User:Paper Luigi|<span style="color:green">'''''Paper Luigi'''''</span>]] <sup>''[[User Talk:Paper Luigi|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper Luigi|C]]''</sup> 02:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
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== New TV series == |
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Earlier today they just announced a new ''Powerpuff Girls'' series with Craig McCracken working on it, and it's being made by Hanna-Barbera Studios Europe. So why isn't it mentioned on the article? [[Special:Contributions/98.165.84.45|98.165.84.45]] ([[User talk:98.165.84.45|talk]]) 00:34, 19 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Yeah, I honestly have no idea what this quote means. In my opinion we shouldnt inclue it unless Craig clarifies it somewhere or specifically applies it to each character. [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 06:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Same thing we could say about the characters representing "body, mind and spirit"; it is not clarified, neither in the article nor in the source. However, it does tell something about who they are and how the creator conceives their dynamics. Readers will assume who is who, either they are already familiarized with them or based on the following descriptions. [[User:JBOOK17|JBOOK17]] ([[User talk:JBOOK17|talk]]) 11:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:I agree with the proposal. PPG was huge for Cartoon Network in the '90s and has expanded into other series, video games, a feature film, toys, etc. It just makes sense to me at this time to split off a franchise article. — [[User:Paper Luigi|<span style="color:green">'''''Paper Luigi'''''</span>]] <sup>''[[User Talk:Paper Luigi|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper Luigi|C]]''</sup> 19:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Make a draft first on how it would look as I don't think much can be split off. - [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 05:16, 20 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::I also made a draft for the new animated TV series. [[Draft:Untitled Powerpuff Girls animated series]].[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|talk]]) 16:53, 21 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::The drafts are devoid of any real content except for section outlines. I am interested in adding content to these when I get enough free time. That being said, I was expecting to see more from the draft author as these haven't been touched for six days. — [[User:Paper Luigi|<span style="color:green">'''''Paper Luigi'''''</span>]] <sup>''[[User Talk:Paper Luigi|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper Luigi|C]]''</sup> 03:05, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Agreed, I also still don't think much can be split off from the main articles to warrant a separate article. Yes toys were made and merchandise was sold, but you have to show how this had a notable impact in paragraph form that couldn't easily be fit here. - [[User:Knowledgekid87|Knowledgekid87]] ([[User talk:Knowledgekid87|talk]]) 03:52, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::{{Reply to|Paper Luigi}} Sorry I'm busy with other stuff, this isn't a priority right now and I don't see there being any hurry.[[User:StarTrekker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:StarTrekker|talk]]) 06:49, 29 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::I don't see why there should be another article covering the franchise, as the current one based on the 1998 series covers all the significant information just fine, including derivative works. Yes, there have been countless books, and toys, and all sorts of merchandise, but those pertain to a particular iteration of the show which already has an article of its own, already expanding on those details. Not to mention there are lists of videogames, characters and soundtracks, so wouldn't another article be reiterative?. A Disambiguation page would suffice, if anything. [[User:JBOOK17|JBOOK17]] ([[User talk:JBOOK17|talk]]) 03:08, 31 July 2022 (UTC) |
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Splitting proposal
[edit]Please discuss below whether to split The Powerpuff Girls into The Powerpuff Girls and Powerpuff Girls (franchise), as proposed by StarTrekker. @StarTrekker: Please explain your reasons for proposing the split below. Felix QW (talk) 20:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Well, there already are two articles now, so a "split" technically isn't needed. But for the sake of clarity, I think the two should be separate because there is way too much information on the main TV series page about spin-offs of spin-offs that aren't technically even that connected to the original series, a franchise page is far more helpful for that. There are now 3 TV series with another one on the way, more than enough for a franchise article.★Trekker (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have just opened the split discussion here since it was proposed on WP:Proposed splits, and there seems to have been some resistance to it in the past. By having it open as a discussion here, one can hopefully prevent redirection-wars as in 2022. Felix QW (talk) 12:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I always opposed to the split. There was never a consensus about the creation of the Franchise article (which was created by an IP). Significant discussion on this topic took place on Talk:The Powerpuff Girls/Archive 4#Splitting proposal. My main reason to oppose was that having another PPG article would serve nothing that the existent articles already accomplish on their own, since each iteration of the show has its own derivative media (comic books, DVD releases, toys, videogames, specials, and whatnot). The franchise article puts it all together, almost without differentiating, and has a couple of sections that count as Trivia. JBOOK17 (talk) 16:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Most of the information about the other media doesn't belong on the TV series article at all, most of it should be removed and kept on this page. Spin-offs from spin-offs don't need to take up space on the article that is supposed to be about a TV series. As of now the The Powerpuff Girls article is like some hybrid of franchise and TV series article. Imagine in the article for the original Ben 10 series had everything from the Ben 10 franchise article crammed into it as well. The TV series article should be expanded with information that is actually about the series itself, its critical reception section is way too small (in my opinion) for a series that was as big as it was for example, and academic analysis should be added too, there could be more about its influence on animation, artists it has inspired, not just a list of media from the same franchise that came after it.★Trekker (talk) 18:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I always opposed to the split. There was never a consensus about the creation of the Franchise article (which was created by an IP). Significant discussion on this topic took place on Talk:The Powerpuff Girls/Archive 4#Splitting proposal. My main reason to oppose was that having another PPG article would serve nothing that the existent articles already accomplish on their own, since each iteration of the show has its own derivative media (comic books, DVD releases, toys, videogames, specials, and whatnot). The franchise article puts it all together, almost without differentiating, and has a couple of sections that count as Trivia. JBOOK17 (talk) 16:50, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have just opened the split discussion here since it was proposed on WP:Proposed splits, and there seems to have been some resistance to it in the past. By having it open as a discussion here, one can hopefully prevent redirection-wars as in 2022. Felix QW (talk) 12:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Why does The Powerpuff Girls (franchise) article exist at all? The information is already summed up under "Merchandise and media", and the article just duplicates things already said in their respective articles. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Because the TV series article shouldn't summarise the entire franchise.★Trekker (talk) 17:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Almost everything is based on the original TV series though? This does not include the reboot or Powerpuff Girls Z, but they are still mentioned in this article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:39, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also I just checked, and almost all of the linked items at The Powerpuff Girls (franchise) are redirects (also summarized here in their own sections "PPGZ ect..)) that link to articles that link back to here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Because the TV series article shouldn't summarise the entire franchise.★Trekker (talk) 17:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose like I've said before, the Franchise article only recolects information that belongs to other articles (mostly the one about the original cartoon). A desambiguation page would have been enough. JBOOK17 (talk) 01:40, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
The redirect Powerpuff Girls (upcoming TV series) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 19 § Powerpuff Girls (upcoming TV series) until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 12:02, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]this episode Season 4 Ep 10 Helter Shelter/Power Lunch should be in Season 3 Ep 13
2A01:261:0:3:0:0:0:F90E (talk) 08:20, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
oldest, middle and youngest child.
[edit]Among the latest change in the article is a claim that the main characters have the traits of the "oldest, middle and youngest child." despite being triplets. Can this be clarified a bit? Which of them is supposed to represent what? Per the description in the article and my own impression:
- Blossom is the highly intelligent and determined leader.
- Bubbles is deceptively sweet, but has anger management issues. She is also the linguist and translator of the trio, since she speaks in multiple languages.
- Buttercup is a highly aggressive tomboy, and actually enjoys fighting. Dimadick (talk) 21:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I honestly have no idea what this quote means. In my opinion we shouldnt inclue it unless Craig clarifies it somewhere or specifically applies it to each character. Knowledgekid87 (talk) 06:01, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Same thing we could say about the characters representing "body, mind and spirit"; it is not clarified, neither in the article nor in the source. However, it does tell something about who they are and how the creator conceives their dynamics. Readers will assume who is who, either they are already familiarized with them or based on the following descriptions. JBOOK17 (talk) 11:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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