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== References ==
:This sounds like it was cut and pasted from one of Prabhupada's books. [[WP:EA|<font color="green">R</font>]]una
As it stands, this entry does not contain adequate traditional or academic source material, and indeed many of the references are questionable, subpar or biased to one particular Gaudiya group, i.e. the Hare Krishna Movement. [[User:Vyasashuka|Vyasashuka]] ([[User talk:Vyasashuka|talk]]) 20:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


Added reference to S K De's classic work on the history of the GV movement. There are many others that can and should be mentioned, but this is an important start. [[User:Vyasashuka|Vyasashuka]] ([[User talk:Vyasashuka|talk]]) 21:17, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
== Gaudiya Math ==


[[User:Vyasashuka|Vyasashuka]] ([[User talk:Vyasashuka|talk]]) 15:21, 3 January 2018 (UTC)Vyasashuka[[User:Vyasashuka|Vyasashuka]] ([[User talk:Vyasashuka|talk]]) 15:21, 3 January 2018 (UTC)I updated the section living beings with some new terms and references
Let's try to keep this article an article on the entire Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition, there is a separate entry for Gaudiya Math. If you haven't researched the historical issues discussed, please don't go reverting or changing what I've written, discuss first here. [[User:Raga|Raga]] 10:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


== Tagged for rewrite ==
== Terms and Translations ==
Deleted "and '''Hare Krishna'''" at the beginning of the entry because this is too biased to the "Hare Krishna Movement," which seems the implied, but not stated, reference. [[User:Vyasashuka|Vyasashuka]] ([[User talk:Vyasashuka|talk]]) 21:15, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


== Source: Hindu Mythology, Vedic and Puranic ==
I tagged the article for re-write. It's a mess. It has no comprehensible structure. [[User:Raga|Raga]] 11:42, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


From the preface, this book looks to be a good, unbiased, secondary source that someone can quote from. There is a section titled "Chaitanya" on pages 260 to 262, where the last paragraph talks about the sect and its followers at that time.
== Organization listings ==
* {{cite book |author-last=Wilkins |author-first=William Joseph |date=1913 |orig-date=1882 |title=Hindu Mythology, Vedic and Purānic |url=https://archive.org/details/hindumythologyve00inwilk/page/260/mode/1up |edition=3rd |location=Calcutta |publisher=London Missionary Society |pages=260-262}}
[[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 15:14, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


== Bengali Vaishnavism ==
"SKCM of BV Puri duplicated, already listed under Gaudiya Math"


{{Ping|103.248.236.98|Dāsānudāsa}} There have been some recent edits that remove and revert the usage of "Bengali Vaishnavism" as an alias name. In reviewing the reference, I found that the cited page 703 doesn't exist on the ref's linked page, so I added the "Failed verification" template. I did find in the preface that it says "Bengal Vaisnavism is not co-extensive with the religious system associated with the name of Caitanya and his adherents". Further discussion can be had here to avoid an [[WP:EW|edit war]]. [[User:Jroberson108|Jroberson108]] ([[User talk:Jroberson108|talk]]) 16:15, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
So is ISKCON. Yet your edit included ISKCON, as well. [[User:Siyavash|Siyavash]] 12:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC) Ah, the subheader within this article, I thought you meant the seperate article. No big deal. [[User:Siyavash|Siyavash]] 12:41, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
{{Ping|Jroberson108}} Just had a quick scan on Google Books and you're right -- thanks for explaining. There are, of course, plenty of other forms of Vaishnavism in Bengal. [[User:Dāsānudāsa|Dāsānudāsa]] ([[User talk:Dāsānudāsa|talk]]) 08:31, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
: You are wright. There are the other branches of Vaishnavism, but Gaudiya branch commonly considered as the most characteristic form of Vaishnavism in Bengal, that is why often colled the Bengali. I shell add some in the lead. [[User:DayakSibiriak|DayakSibiriak]] ([[User talk:DayakSibiriak|talk]]) 01:16, 7 February 2022 (UTC)


== Bhakti Aloka ==
* Overall, there's unnecessary repetition we need to address. --[[User:Raga|Raga]] 12:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


Paramadvaiti Sat Depravananta Godasa [[Special:Contributions/179.58.93.55|179.58.93.55]] ([[User talk:179.58.93.55|talk]]) 18:47, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
== History ==

Please note that the "theory of decline" is a claim by the Gaudiya Math, and is not agreed on by the rest of the tradition. As you can see from my 17th-18th century description, the tradition was alive and vibrant. I have then changed, "Gaudiya Vaishnava history asserts" to "Gaudiya Math historians assert".

I am copying from my article on [http://www.gaudiya.com/index.php?topic=history history] at Gaudiya.Com. Consider reading the text there in its entirety. [[User:Raga|Raga]] 12:48, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== Suggested headings ==

The first section on comparative Vaishnava theology needs to be moved further down. It's also pretty messy.

The following headings need to be added:

- Theology
: There's already an article for [[Gaudiya_Vaishnava_theology]] - seems to be largely copied from Gaudiya.Com and deals with history, there's hardly theology there at all.
- Religious practice
: (suggest an outline of the five main aspects of sadhana)
- Holy places
: Vraja, Navadwip, Puri

Latest revision as of 13:21, 9 September 2024

References

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As it stands, this entry does not contain adequate traditional or academic source material, and indeed many of the references are questionable, subpar or biased to one particular Gaudiya group, i.e. the Hare Krishna Movement. Vyasashuka (talk) 20:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Added reference to S K De's classic work on the history of the GV movement. There are many others that can and should be mentioned, but this is an important start. Vyasashuka (talk) 21:17, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vyasashuka (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2018 (UTC)VyasashukaVyasashuka (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2018 (UTC)I updated the section living beings with some new terms and references[reply]

Terms and Translations

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Deleted "and Hare Krishna" at the beginning of the entry because this is too biased to the "Hare Krishna Movement," which seems the implied, but not stated, reference. Vyasashuka (talk) 21:15, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source: Hindu Mythology, Vedic and Puranic

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From the preface, this book looks to be a good, unbiased, secondary source that someone can quote from. There is a section titled "Chaitanya" on pages 260 to 262, where the last paragraph talks about the sect and its followers at that time.

  • Wilkins, William Joseph (1913) [1882]. Hindu Mythology, Vedic and Purānic (3rd ed.). Calcutta: London Missionary Society. pp. 260–262.

Jroberson108 (talk) 15:14, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bengali Vaishnavism

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@103.248.236.98 and Dāsānudāsa: There have been some recent edits that remove and revert the usage of "Bengali Vaishnavism" as an alias name. In reviewing the reference, I found that the cited page 703 doesn't exist on the ref's linked page, so I added the "Failed verification" template. I did find in the preface that it says "Bengal Vaisnavism is not co-extensive with the religious system associated with the name of Caitanya and his adherents". Further discussion can be had here to avoid an edit war. Jroberson108 (talk) 16:15, 17 September 2021 (UTC) @Jroberson108: Just had a quick scan on Google Books and you're right -- thanks for explaining. There are, of course, plenty of other forms of Vaishnavism in Bengal. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 08:31, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are wright. There are the other branches of Vaishnavism, but Gaudiya branch commonly considered as the most characteristic form of Vaishnavism in Bengal, that is why often colled the Bengali. I shell add some in the lead. DayakSibiriak (talk) 01:16, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bhakti Aloka

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Paramadvaiti Sat Depravananta Godasa 179.58.93.55 (talk) 18:47, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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