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==Old talk==
The Tambov Rebellion page says he was killed resisting arrest. This page says he was arrested in 1938 and executed the same year.
The Tambov Rebellion page says he was killed resisting arrest. This page says he was arrested in 1938 and executed the same year.

You are taliking about a different person [[Alexander Antonov]] , Antonov is a common Russian lastname. [[User:Fisenko|Fisenko]] 22:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

== Menshevik ==

If he joined the Menshevik party in 1903, how could be have "became a Menshevik in protest at the conflict" in 1914?[[Special:Contributions/125.237.105.102|125.237.105.102]] ([[User talk:125.237.105.102|talk]]) 00:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

== Was POUM a Trotskyist party? ==

{{Ping|TU-nor|Αντικαθεστωτικός}}

The oªcial founding of the POUM took place in Barcelona on September 29. With a membership of six thousand at the very most, the new revolutionary party was oªcially structured on the basis of Leninist democratic centralism and formally accepted Maurín’s doctrine of the democratic-socialist revolution. There is little doubt that it was internally more democratic than the PCE. Though the POUM contained a significant small core of intellectuals and theorists, it was made up primarily of blue-collar and service workers, most of whom spoke Catalan as their native language. In a generous gesture toward the former ICE, the POUM gave its leaders twelve of the forty-one seats on the new central committee, a substantial overrepresentation. In his new book Maurín declared that the Comintern had failed as a center 74 from revolutionary insurrection to popular front of world revolution and functioned merely as “an instrument in the service of the Soviet state,” which was of course true. '''Though the POUM rejected “Trotskyism,” it would remain friendly to Trotsky'''—the BOC had called the constant and ferocious Soviet attacks on Trotsky an “incitement to assassination” (which proved to be exactly the case)—and occasionally publish his articles.

*{{cite book|authorlink=Stanley G. Payne|author=Stanley G. Payne|title=The Spanish Civil War, the Soviet Union, and Communism|date=1 October 2008|publisher=Yale University Press|isbn=978-0-300-13078-2|p=74}}
Interesting story, isnt it? [[User:Cinadon36|Cinadon36]] ([[User talk:Cinadon36|talk]]) 15:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

::I dont have any interest in to this. So please don't ping me. Write whatever you choose. Not important.[[User:Αντικαθεστωτικός|Αντικαθεστωτικός]] ([[User talk:Αντικαθεστωτικός|talk]]) 15:56, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

:::I pinged you because of this[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Vladimir_Antonov-Ovseyenko&type=revision&diff=892859654&oldid=892841695]. It's ok, I wont ping again. [[User:Cinadon36|Cinadon36]] ([[User talk:Cinadon36|talk]]) 16:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)


== Requested move 25 July 2021 ==

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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' No objections in nearly two months. {{RMpmc}} [[User:Mdewman6|Mdewman6]] ([[User talk:Mdewman6|talk]]) 22:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
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* [[:Vladimir Antonov-Ovseyenko]] → {{no redirect|Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko}}
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Latest revision as of 16:18, 10 September 2024

Old talk

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The Tambov Rebellion page says he was killed resisting arrest. This page says he was arrested in 1938 and executed the same year.

You are taliking about a different person Alexander Antonov , Antonov is a common Russian lastname. Fisenko 22:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Menshevik

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If he joined the Menshevik party in 1903, how could be have "became a Menshevik in protest at the conflict" in 1914?125.237.105.102 (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Was POUM a Trotskyist party?

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@TU-nor and Αντικαθεστωτικός:

The oªcial founding of the POUM took place in Barcelona on September 29. With a membership of six thousand at the very most, the new revolutionary party was oªcially structured on the basis of Leninist democratic centralism and formally accepted Maurín’s doctrine of the democratic-socialist revolution. There is little doubt that it was internally more democratic than the PCE. Though the POUM contained a significant small core of intellectuals and theorists, it was made up primarily of blue-collar and service workers, most of whom spoke Catalan as their native language. In a generous gesture toward the former ICE, the POUM gave its leaders twelve of the forty-one seats on the new central committee, a substantial overrepresentation. In his new book Maurín declared that the Comintern had failed as a center 74 from revolutionary insurrection to popular front of world revolution and functioned merely as “an instrument in the service of the Soviet state,” which was of course true. Though the POUM rejected “Trotskyism,” it would remain friendly to Trotsky—the BOC had called the constant and ferocious Soviet attacks on Trotsky an “incitement to assassination” (which proved to be exactly the case)—and occasionally publish his articles.

  • Stanley G. Payne (1 October 2008). The Spanish Civil War, the Soviet Union, and Communism. Yale University Press. p. 74. ISBN 978-0-300-13078-2.

Interesting story, isnt it? Cinadon36 (talk) 15:47, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I dont have any interest in to this. So please don't ping me. Write whatever you choose. Not important.Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 15:56, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I pinged you because of this[1]. It's ok, I wont ping again. Cinadon36 (talk) 16:41, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Requested move 25 July 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. No objections in nearly two months. (closed by non-admin page mover) Mdewman6 (talk) 22:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


– Per WP:COMMONNAME, judging by searches according to WP:SET. Both subjects are most commonly found with this spelling, and both should be kept or moved for consistency per WP:CRITERIA.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.