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891 - [[Pope Stephen V]] isn't it [[pope Stephen VI]] - nr V died in 817 and i didn't found the exact date of september 14 maby someone can put it also in the right article. |
891 - [[Pope Stephen V]] isn't it [[pope Stephen VI]] - nr V died in 817 and i didn't found the exact date of september 14 maby someone can put it also in the right article. |
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:No, Stephen IV died in 817. Stephen V died in 891 and Stephen VI died in 897. See explainations at [[Pope-elect Stephen]]. [[User:Švitrigaila|Švitrigaila]] 13:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC) |
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I don't have it in front of me, but is there some numbering confusion regarding Popes Stephen WHICH HAS BEEN NOTED ELSEWHERE? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.63.16.20|128.63.16.20]] ([[User talk:128.63.16.20|talk]]) 14:50, 15 September 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== [[Sam Neill]] == |
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Sam Neill - Irish actor? -- An actor born in Ireland, perhaps, but surely a New Zealand actor. He is listed elsewhere as a [[New Zealand actor]], and not as an [[Irish Actor]] Next thing someone will write an entry describing [[Phar Lap]] as an Australian horse. |
Sam Neill - Irish actor? -- An actor born in Ireland, perhaps, but surely a New Zealand actor. He is listed elsewhere as a [[New Zealand actor]], and not as an [[Irish Actor]] Next thing someone will write an entry describing [[Phar Lap]] as an Australian horse. |
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:Wikipedia has standards. Additions aren't simply added by public opinion. There are rules. What exactly has Brittany's baby done of merit? [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 04:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC) |
:Wikipedia has standards. Additions aren't simply added by public opinion. There are rules. What exactly has Brittany's baby done of merit? [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 04:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC) |
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For a person to be added to a day of the year article they have to be notable in their own right, merely being related to a famous person does not give a person notability. [[User:Qzm|Qzm]] ([[User talk:Qzm|talk]]) 01:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== What is "Slagpendence/Slagmagedon Day"? == |
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Perhaps if it is not significant enough to have its own page, especially given that I could not even find it in a more general web search, it should not have an entry here. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Merpius|Merpius]] ([[User talk:Merpius|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Merpius|contribs]]) 17:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:It was vandalism, I removed it. '''[[User:GB fan|<span style='color: #ffac2c;background-color: #00422f;'>~~ GB</span>]][[User talk:GB fan|<span style='color: #ffac2c;background-color: #00422f;'> fan ~~</span>]]''' 18:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== I don't think the EVENT was this day . == |
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I have noticed this: |
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1969 – The US Selective Service selects September 14 as the First Draft Lottery Date. |
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However, when I go to the Draft Lottery article, I find that the lottery was on Dec. 1, with Sept. 14 being the date selected as #1. In other words, we have an event of Dec. 1, not of Sept. 14. Please fix. |
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== Hall-Mills == |
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Hall-Mills Murder case. The victims were discovered on September 14, 1922. The deaths of Pr. Edward Hall and Eleanor Mills were scandalous and famous in America in the 1920's. Newspaper Coverage of this story and the ensuing trial went on for years. [[User:L. Thomas W.|L. Thomas W.]] ([[User talk:L. Thomas W.|talk]]) 01:31, 13 September 2015 (UTC) |
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== Flight of the Earls == |
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According to http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/flight-earls and http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/plantation/planters/es02.shtml, the Flight of the Earls occurred on September 4th, not 14th. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Lvillazon|Lvillazon]] ([[User talk:Lvillazon#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lvillazon|contribs]]) 11:11, 15 August 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== holidays and observances == |
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As there is a heading for Eastern Orthodox Liturgics, I suggest anything marked "Eastern Orthodox" be moved there. It might make it look a little presumptuous that this leaves the whole section western-centric, but there you go - someone decided the Eastern Orthodox should do their own thing.--[[User:Richardson mcphillips|Richardson mcphillips]] ([[User talk:Richardson mcphillips|talk]]) 18:48, 14 September 2017 (UTC) |
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==629 and Heraclius in Constantinople== |
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I removed the entry for 629 AD, which had Heraclius entering Constantinople after his victory over the Persian Empire. The Heraclius article cites Speck, Baynes, and Haldon. I do not have access to Speck. Speck wrote in Greek, and no translation is offered (which should occur when citing non-English language sources in English Wikipedia). I cannot confirm or deny that Speck says 14 September. |
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Historian [https://zenodo.org/records/2408558 Norman H. Baynes only says on p. 288] "He returned to Constantinople, probably in September 629" and gives no day. |
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Historian [https://books.google.com/books?id=pSHmT1G_5T0C&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&dq=%22Byzantium%20in%20the%20Seventh%20Century%3A%20the%20Transformation%20of%20a%20Culture%22&pg=PA46#v=onepage&q&f=false John F. Haldon says on p. 46] that Heraclius returned in 628 (not 629), and gives no month or day. |
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In contrast, historian [https://books.google.com/books?id=S3Q4DwAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PA157&dq=%2214%20September%22%20%22629%22&pg=PA157#v=onepage&q&f=false Phil Booth says] in his book ''Crisis of Empire: Doctrine and Dissent at the End of Late Antiquity'', page 157, that Heraclius entered Constantinople as early as 1 August. |
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Given the lack of specific date in the sources cited by the Wiki article on Heraclius, and the contrasing evidence provided by Booth, I do not believe the "entering Constantinople" date of 14 September is supportable. - [[User:Tim1965|Tim1965]] ([[User talk:Tim1965|talk]]) 15:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]891 - Pope Stephen V isn't it pope Stephen VI - nr V died in 817 and i didn't found the exact date of september 14 maby someone can put it also in the right article.
- No, Stephen IV died in 817. Stephen V died in 891 and Stephen VI died in 897. See explainations at Pope-elect Stephen. Švitrigaila 13:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't have it in front of me, but is there some numbering confusion regarding Popes Stephen WHICH HAS BEEN NOTED ELSEWHERE? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 14:50, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Sam Neill - Irish actor? -- An actor born in Ireland, perhaps, but surely a New Zealand actor. He is listed elsewhere as a New Zealand actor, and not as an Irish Actor Next thing someone will write an entry describing Phar Lap as an Australian horse.
Sean Spears Federline
[edit]Why isnt britney spears son on list of births on this day
- We don't automatically add offspring of famous people on here once they're born, unless they come from actual royalty. Ms. Spears being a "pop princess" doesn't count, and her husband is only famous for being, well, her husband. -- Cjmarsicano 06:55, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
wikipedia is run for viewers.. 1000s of people have edited and added Britney's son to list of births. If viewers want it,that's what you should do. After all,he is a famous person.
An unknown vandal kept editing it and claimed to operate in a group of 12 . This is how persistent viewers are. He /she accepted to stop vandalism if it was put so why dont you do that.
- Wikipedia has standards. Additions aren't simply added by public opinion. There are rules. What exactly has Brittany's baby done of merit? Kingturtle 04:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
For a person to be added to a day of the year article they have to be notable in their own right, merely being related to a famous person does not give a person notability. Qzm (talk) 01:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
What is "Slagpendence/Slagmagedon Day"?
[edit]Perhaps if it is not significant enough to have its own page, especially given that I could not even find it in a more general web search, it should not have an entry here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merpius (talk • contribs) 17:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- It was vandalism, I removed it. ~~ GB fan ~~ 18:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't think the EVENT was this day .
[edit]I have noticed this:
1969 – The US Selective Service selects September 14 as the First Draft Lottery Date.
However, when I go to the Draft Lottery article, I find that the lottery was on Dec. 1, with Sept. 14 being the date selected as #1. In other words, we have an event of Dec. 1, not of Sept. 14. Please fix.
Hall-Mills
[edit]Hall-Mills Murder case. The victims were discovered on September 14, 1922. The deaths of Pr. Edward Hall and Eleanor Mills were scandalous and famous in America in the 1920's. Newspaper Coverage of this story and the ensuing trial went on for years. L. Thomas W. (talk) 01:31, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Flight of the Earls
[edit]According to http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/flight-earls and http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/plantation/planters/es02.shtml, the Flight of the Earls occurred on September 4th, not 14th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lvillazon (talk • contribs) 11:11, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
holidays and observances
[edit]As there is a heading for Eastern Orthodox Liturgics, I suggest anything marked "Eastern Orthodox" be moved there. It might make it look a little presumptuous that this leaves the whole section western-centric, but there you go - someone decided the Eastern Orthodox should do their own thing.--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 18:48, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
629 and Heraclius in Constantinople
[edit]I removed the entry for 629 AD, which had Heraclius entering Constantinople after his victory over the Persian Empire. The Heraclius article cites Speck, Baynes, and Haldon. I do not have access to Speck. Speck wrote in Greek, and no translation is offered (which should occur when citing non-English language sources in English Wikipedia). I cannot confirm or deny that Speck says 14 September.
Historian Norman H. Baynes only says on p. 288 "He returned to Constantinople, probably in September 629" and gives no day.
Historian John F. Haldon says on p. 46 that Heraclius returned in 628 (not 629), and gives no month or day.
In contrast, historian Phil Booth says in his book Crisis of Empire: Doctrine and Dissent at the End of Late Antiquity, page 157, that Heraclius entered Constantinople as early as 1 August.
Given the lack of specific date in the sources cited by the Wiki article on Heraclius, and the contrasing evidence provided by Booth, I do not believe the "entering Constantinople" date of 14 September is supportable. - Tim1965 (talk) 15:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)