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:{{ping|87.224.32.138}} "Drug infested" is a reference to the [[Opioid epidemic]] and "den" is a reference to an [[Opium den]]. See also the phrase [https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/190178-quot-A-den-of-vice-quot "den of vice"], among others. [[User:cooljeanius|Cooljeanius]] ([[User talk:cooljeanius|talk]]) ([[Special:contributions/cooljeanius|contribs]]) 04:10, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|87.224.32.138}} "Drug infested" is a reference to the [[Opioid epidemic]] and "den" is a reference to an [[Opium den]]. See also the phrase [https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/190178-quot-A-den-of-vice-quot "den of vice"], among others. [[User:cooljeanius|Cooljeanius]] ([[User talk:cooljeanius|talk]]) ([[Special:contributions/cooljeanius|contribs]]) 04:10, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==
{{ping|Ken Gallager}} You don't understand the purpose of the IPAc-en template. It is ''not'' to provide a local pronunciation but one transcription that can be 'translated' into General American and Received Pronunciation. Therefore, a speaker of the former will know to say {{IPA|[nu ˈhæmpʃər]}}, whereas an RP speaker will know to say {{IPA|[njuː ˈhæmpʃə]}}. Sorry, but you're wrong and need to read [[Help:IPA/English]]. Reverting. [[User:Mr KEBAB|Mr KEBAB]] ([[User talk:Mr KEBAB|talk]]) 18:15, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

{{ping|Steve Lux, Jr.}} Sorry, but you're another user who doesn't understand the purpose of IPAc-en. {{redacted}} [[User:Mr KEBAB|Mr KEBAB]] ([[User talk:Mr KEBAB|talk]]) 19:16, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

:You obviously did not read the article and section. [[User:Steve Lux, Jr.|Steve Lux, Jr.]] ([[User talk:Steve Lux, Jr.|talk]]) 19:18, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
::{{replyto|Steve Lux, Jr.}} {{redacted}} [[User:Mr KEBAB|Mr KEBAB]] ([[User talk:Mr KEBAB|talk]]) 19:20, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
:::This has been discussed extensively before and the consensus was to use the local pronunciation. Additionally, the IPA translation is probably not even necessary for '''New Hampshire''' because it is not difficult to pronounce. It may be best to remove it altogether anyway. [[User:Steve Lux, Jr.|Steve Lux, Jr.]] ([[User talk:Steve Lux, Jr.|talk]]) 19:33, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
::::{{replyto|Steve Lux, Jr.}} It's a misuse of the IPAc-en template, which should be used in a certain manner (see my original post and [[Help:IPA/English]]). The consensus you're talking about was clearly among editors who didn't understand that and therefore isn't very relevant, I'm afraid. {{redacted}}

::::I have no strong feelings towards keeping the IPA, but if we decide to do so, we must retain {{IPA|/j/}} in the first word. [[User:Mr KEBAB|Mr KEBAB]] ([[User talk:Mr KEBAB|talk]]) 19:47, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm just curious if anyone has thought to use IPA the way in Wikipedia we handle spelling: for US articles we use American spelling, for other nations, we use their spelling. Why should the pronunciation of "new" be described in a way that is not used in the U.S. when it's a U.S. article? And yes, several years back the solution was to designate the "nu" pronunciation as a local one. But this clearly offends the "nju" people. Basically, if the IPA template requires intense study for editors (let alone the general article-reading public) to understand how to use it, it's probably not worth using in this context. --[[User:Ken Gallager|Ken Gallager]] ([[User talk:Ken Gallager|talk]]) 19:53, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Ken Gallager}} We're not describing the pronunciation of "new" in a way that is not used in the U.S., it just looks like that to laymen. Transcriptions enclosed within IPAc-en are [[diaphoneme|diaphonemic]], rather than [[phoneme|phonemic]]. I think "intense study" is an exaggeration. Either way, you should raise this issue on [[Help talk:IPA/English]]. I'm not a huge fan of diaphonemic transcriptions either and I think that having a separate General American and Received Pronunciation transcriptions would be a good idea. However, we'd need to have a consensus for that. That issue was discussed in the past and, AFAIK, the diaphonemic transcription was chosen each and every time. As long as [[Help:IPA/English]] is diaphonemic, we should respect that. [[User:Mr KEBAB|Mr KEBAB]] ([[User talk:Mr KEBAB|talk]]) 20:05, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

For posterity, it seems worth noting that the IPAc-en template does not output any of the notation styles currently described in the diaphoneme article in its [[diaphoneme#Representation|Representation section]] and that [[Help:IPA/English]] originally didn't mention anything about diaphonemes and in fact up until a couple of years ago explicitly included an instruction to list multiple differing pronunciations that [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Help:IPA/English&diff=650957827&oldid=650934478 was deleted] without any apparent discussion, when in fact in the corresponding talk page archives there didn't even appear to be consensus about conveying diaphonemes via the International Phonetic Alphabet. Similarly, until late last year the documentation for the IPAc-en template explicitly said that it dealt with phonemes and did not mention diaphonemes at all, until in a [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:IPAc-en/doc&diff=744582029&oldid=736172984 single edit] every instance of "phoneme" and "phonemes" was replaced with "diaphoneme" and "diaphonemes".

Also, the word "diaphoneme" does not appear at all in the current article on the [[International Phonetic Alphabet]] itself.

To reiterate my position from previous discussions here which occurred before the above changes were made, it's completely bizarre to me that anyone would want at the top of Wikipedia articles, often right next to an audio file representing one specific way of pronouncing a word, a written representation not of one or more specific ways of pronouncing the word but rather a string conveying a linguistic abstraction that's sort of like a tolerance specification for how it ''might'' be pronounced if you took the conventional IPA symbols and had some type of lookup table to translate them into a particular accent. But, you could read the entire article on the IPA and still not understand that's what you have to do to arrive at a particular pronunciation that might match up with an audio file of someone pronouncing the word. And even if you did, you'd actually end up with a second IPA string with no way to tell by looking at them that one represents diaphonemes and the other phonemes.

So I 100% agree with Ken Gallager's characterization that adding such a diaphoneme string to the top of an article is something an editor or reader would require "intense study" to understand. For articles in general, and this article in particular, I concur that it's better to have the ''status quo'' of nothing at all rather than something so complicated and potentially misleading. —<span class="unicode" style="color:black;text-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.1em #777777">[[User:Struthious_Bandersnatch|▸₷<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">truthious</span> Ⓑ<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">andersnatch</span>◂]]</span> 04:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

== Nicknames in the infobox ==
There is a mild back-and-forth about nicknames in the infobox. My position and the position of at least one other editor is that "The Granite State" is the only nickname for New Hampshire that is commonly used and thus the only one that should be noted. The infobox isn't for comprehensive lists of information - it's there to provide a quick look at the most important characteristics. The fact that it is possible to find some other nicknames for the state used by some people at some time may or may not be worthy of the article, but I'd say it's definitely not worthy of the infobox. - [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] ([[User talk:DavidWBrooks|talk]]) 14:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:Agreed not the place for local media catch phrases. We are looking for recognizable terms that are used.--[[User:Moxy|Moxy]] ([[User talk:Moxy|talk]]) 15:47, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:That seems very anecdotal criteria; I admit I have not heard someone call New Hampshire the "Mother of Rivers" or "Switzerland of America", however it is still referred to as "White Mountain State" by many. The source provided is not a local media catchphrase but an academic source, and one of many, including Collier's, and NH and Federal gov literature. Many states provide additional nickname(s), the infobox is deliberately designed to accomodate more than one, which are almost entirely traditional at this point. [[Alabama]], [[Connecticut]], [[Delaware]], [[Minnesota]], being some examples.--[[User:Simtropolitan|Simtropolitan]] [[User_talk:Simtropolitan|(talk)]] 17:11, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::Here's the way the state website puts it: "New Hampshire has 4 nicknames. The first is the one by which the state is commonly known. Granite State: for our extensive granite formations and quarries"[[https://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/fastfact.html]]. As a reporter in New Hampshire I can affirm that The Granite State is commonly used as a stand-in for New Hampshire. The term is widely known Putting this in the infobox is useful to readers. But I have not in three decades here seen or heard any of the other nicknames actually used, including White Mountain State, although of course there's plenty of reference to the White Mountains.
::As [[wp:infobox]] notes, the infobox "summarizes key features of the page's subject" - the key word (so to speak) being "key". Nicknames that are not actually used in common discourse are not, I would argue, key. - [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] ([[User talk:DavidWBrooks|talk]]) 17:20, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Once again, to rely on one's experience alone is to rely on original research, "most common" doesn't mean exclusive, and having additional nicknames does not compromise the integrity of an article. The state thought it was relevant to include and explain all 4 in their "fast facts" beyond the one you've quoted here, and generally [[Wikipedia:Content removal|valid reasons for removing content]] are it being unsourced, inaccurate, irrelevant, or inappropriate. Can we accept the addition of White Mountain State and then leave it at that then? --[[User:Simtropolitan|Simtropolitan]] [[User_talk:Simtropolitan|(talk)]] 17:35, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::::I'm curious: can you find a use of "White Mountain State" as a nickname in any source except the FAQ in the past couple of decades? I can't. By the way, if you want to put these nicknames in the article I think that would appropriate, although not very useful. It's cluttering the infobox with them that I think is a disservice to readers. - [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] ([[User talk:DavidWBrooks|talk]]) 17:48, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::If the state's own equivalent of an infobox isn't enough, nor an academic work on American English, which is still in print, in your opinion what is? Since local media is all that would be left, a quick search turns up the following in commerce- [https://mkt.com/white-mountain-candle], [http://949whom.com/watch-fall-in-love-with-new-hampshire-all-over-again/], and literature [https://newengland.com/today/living/new-england-history/live-free-or-die-new-hampshire-motto/] [https://books.google.com/books?id=L9h1UzFl6h8C&pg=PA34&dq=%22The+White+Mountain+State%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwixhuGvtp7ZAhUoU98KHUFtBYoQ6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q&f=false] [https://books.google.com/books?id=99fh34SJWr8C&pg=PA194&dq=%22The+White+Mountain+State%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipwYWiuZ7ZAhWEt1kKHVdkDyIQ6AEIPTAE#v=onepage&q=%22The%20White%20Mountain%20State%22&f=false] [https://books.google.com/books?id=3zpU6IFxmQ0C&q=%22The+White+Mountain+State%22&dq=%22The+White+Mountain+State%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZ3JquuZ7ZAhWnrFkKHY_2ARQ4ChDoAQgrMAE]. [[WP:Clutter]] is pretty broad and clear on what is problematic, I fail to see how this makes it any more difficult for people to read the words "The Granite State".--[[User:Simtropolitan|Simtropolitan]] [[User_talk:Simtropolitan|(talk)]] 18:14, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:::I must say that's a reasonable collection of references you found which does imply that people might stumble across White Mountain State used as a synonym and thus find it useful in the article. So I guess I'm not opposed after all. - [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] ([[User talk:DavidWBrooks|talk]]) 19:41, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I appreciate it, only trying to be thorough.--[[User:Simtropolitan|Simtropolitan]] [[User_talk:Simtropolitan|(talk)]] 20:46, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::But just because something can be sourced doesn't necessarily mean it belongs in the infobox. I'm against this for the same reasons I'd be against adding a list of former capitals to the infobox. The infobox should be a simple presentation of key facts that people are likely to want to know, not an exhaustive list of things that someone found in a book or through Google. [[User:AlexiusHoratius|<span style="font-size:14px;font-family:times new roman;color:navy;">'''Alexius'''</span>]][[User talk:AlexiusHoratius|<span style="font-size:14px;font-family:times new roman;color:darkred;">'''Horatius'''</span>]] 19:01, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Would people not like to know a state's nicknames? Particularly if they still have contemporary usage and are included by [https://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/fastfact.html the government of that state]? I would not be opposed to removing "Switzerland" and "Mother of Rivers" but it's not as though these were picked from someone's novel or a random 19th century gazette --[[User:Simtropolitan|Simtropolitan]] [[User_talk:Simtropolitan|(talk)]] 19:16, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
::::As argued above, all of the obscure nicknames would be interesting in the body of the article. It is misleading and confusing to put all of them in the infobox. You've made a good case for including "White Mountain State" as a currently-used nickname in the infobox, but not for the others. It looks like the sources you provided that list Switzerland or Mother of Rivers are simply citing the original State Library reference. --[[User:Ken Gallager|Ken Gallager]] ([[User talk:Ken Gallager|talk]]) 14:09, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::Respectfully I haven't listed ''any'' sources specific to the others, the only one I have provided for those is a reference book which cites all four. There are other contemporary sources that could be used for these in informal literature and recent encyclopedias of geography, but if an official state shortlist is not ample, that is not something I will pursue at this time. I have only found this discussion more discouraging than constructive in attempting to contribute relevant content to this article.--[[User:Simtropolitan|Simtropolitan]] [[User_talk:Simtropolitan|(talk)]] 20:39, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::Don't get discouraged - disagreement among editors is how wikipedia works! If everybody automatically agreed, there'd be no need to have editing. The fact that three edfitors think you went slightly overboard may be an indication that ... well, you may have gone slightly overboard. All of us have done much worse in our wiki-years, I'm sure. - [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] ([[User talk:DavidWBrooks|talk]]) 00:55, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

This is the government source, which refers to 4 different state nicknames:
* https://www.nh.gov/nhinfo/fastfact.html
<blockquote>''New Hampshire has 4 nicknames. The first is the one by which the state is commonly known. Granite State: for our extensive granite formations and quarries
''Mother of Rivers: for the rivers of New England that originate in our Mountains
''White Mountain State: for the White Mountain Range
''Switzerland of America: for our beautiful mountain scenery</blockquote>
The question is:
# Whether to list just the one main nickname in the infobox, or
# Is "White Mountain State" significant enough that it needs inclusion in the infobox.
Is this what you guys are discussing about? [[User:WinterSpw|WinterSpw]] ([[User talk:WinterSpw|talk]]) 02:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
*One nickname in the infobox is sufficient. The article text is the place for being comprehensive. Put Granite State in the infobox, and the others in the body.--[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 04:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)


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== too much information in massive chart! ==
An editor just added a very large chart showing complete racial/ethnic and age breakdown of the five biggest cities/towns in the state - in my humble opinon that is WAY too detailed information for the general state article. If necessary it could be broken out into a separate article but it doesn't belong here, I'd say. Any thoughts? - 16:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DavidWBrooks|DavidWBrooks]] ([[User talk:DavidWBrooks#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DavidWBrooks|contribs]]) </small>


I understand your concern, DavidWBrooks. It's important to maintain the relevance and readability of Wikipedia articles. While detailed information can be valuable, it's essential to strike a balance. If this chart significantly detracts from the general state article's readability or overwhelms it with data, considering a separate article might be a reasonable suggestion. It's always a good practice to engage in constructive discussions and find a consensus within the Wikipedia community. What are the thoughts of others on this matter? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/207.96.13.213|207.96.13.213]] ([[User talk:207.96.13.213#top|talk]]) 18:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Lilac flower symbolizes the hard character of the inhabitants of New Hampshire Why is the character of the people of New Hampshire so rigid and hard? ==


I think this data is fine where it is. It doesn't really impact the readability of the article. [[User:Garsh2|Garsh]] ([[User talk:Garsh2|talk]]) 23:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
A lilac flower symbolizes the rigid and hard character of the inhabitants of New Hampshire. I would like to ask why the character of New Hampshire residents is rigid and hard? How is the tough character of New Hampshire residents manifested? Does this mean that New Hampshire residents are tough? Give me examples of tough behavior by the inhabitants of New Hampshire and if so, what is the reason why New Hampshire residents are tough? Does this mean that New Hampshire residents are stubborn? Give me examples of stubborn behavior by New Hampshire residents and if so what is the reason why New Hampshire residents are stubborn? Does everyone who lives in New Hampshire have a rigid, stubborn and tough and hard character? Are there no sentimental people in New Hampshire? And if so, what was the reason why there were no sentimental people in New Hampshire? Does everyone who lives in New Hampshire have a rigid, stubborn and tough and hard character? Does everyone living in New Hampshire and traveling in a particular country in the United States or any other country become soft and sentimental? Does anyone who returns to New Hampshire from a trip to a particular country in the United States or another country return to being rigid and tough and stubborn and rigid and hard? Does anyone who lives in a particular country in the United States or another country and travels in New Hampshire do he have a rigid, tough and stubborn and hard character? Does everyone who returns from a trip in New Hampshire to a certain country in the United States or another country return to being soft and sentimental? Does everyone who lives in New Hampshire and immigrates to a particular country in the United States or another country become soft and sentimental? Does everyone who lives in New Hampshire and emigrates to a certain country in the United States or another country and then immigrates to New Hampshire do he return to being rigid and tough and stubborn and hard? Does anyone living in a particular country in the United States or another country immigrate to New Hampshire and then emigrate to a particular country in the United States or another country back? Does he return to being soft and sentimental? Is this a stigma? And if so, who determined this stigma? Is it scientific? And if so, who investigated it? How did they come to the conclusion that it was precisely in New Hampshire that only hard, tough, stubborn, rigid people lived? Excuse me for the digs. I just want to know the reason why New Hampshire is living only stiff, tough and stubborn and rigid and hard people? Is someone born or living in another country in the United States or another country in the world and immigrating to New Hampshire or traveling in New Hampshire? Does his or her character become rigid and hard? Is a person born or living in New Hampshire and migrating to another country in the United States or to another country in the world or traveling in another country in the United States or another country in the world does his or her character soften? Is a person born or living in another country in the United States or another country in the world and immigrating to New Hampshire or traveling in New Hampshire and then returning to his native country whether his or her character softens again? Is a person born or living in New Hampshire and migrating to another country in the United States or to another country in the world or traveling in another country in the United States or another country in the world and then returning to New Hampshire? Does his or her character became hard and rigid again?
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I am from the UK.

Why did President Trump call New Hampshire a "drug infested den"? What does that mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.32.138 (talk) 16:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@87.224.32.138: "Drug infested" is a reference to the Opioid epidemic and "den" is a reference to an Opium den. See also the phrase "den of vice", among others. Cooljeanius (talk) (contribs) 04:10, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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"New Hampshre" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect New Hampshre. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"New Hampster" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect New Hampster. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 22:44, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

too much information in massive chart!

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An editor just added a very large chart showing complete racial/ethnic and age breakdown of the five biggest cities/towns in the state - in my humble opinon that is WAY too detailed information for the general state article. If necessary it could be broken out into a separate article but it doesn't belong here, I'd say. Any thoughts? - 16:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidWBrooks (talk • contribs)

I understand your concern, DavidWBrooks. It's important to maintain the relevance and readability of Wikipedia articles. While detailed information can be valuable, it's essential to strike a balance. If this chart significantly detracts from the general state article's readability or overwhelms it with data, considering a separate article might be a reasonable suggestion. It's always a good practice to engage in constructive discussions and find a consensus within the Wikipedia community. What are the thoughts of others on this matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.96.13.213 (talk) 18:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think this data is fine where it is. It doesn't really impact the readability of the article. Garsh (talk) 23:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"New Hampster" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect New Hampster has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 18 § New Hampster until a consensus is reached. Batrachoseps (talk) 03:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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