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== Consensus request for editing introductory statement of "Garden" section. ==
== Selected objects ==

Section 3.2 begins with a confusing and unrelated fact regarding the use of gardens during the medieval era:

<blockquote>"During periods of political unrest and military invasion, gardens became essential for community survival.[116]"</blockquote>


The source cited (ISBN 978-0-87099-775-4) is text on both the gardens at The Cloisters, and the history of medieval gardens themselves. Though interesting, and perhaps relevant somewhere else in the article, this statement is a non-sequitor in its current context and should be removed from the garden section. [[User talk:Rimless Spectacles|Rimless Spectacles]] 25 January 2021 (UTC)
I don't know if there is a free image, but might the large rosary bead filled with miniature carvings be suitable for this section? I'm referring to [http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/17.190.475/ this] work. It was not on display on my last visit, but if anyone could obtain an image, I think it would be a great addition to the article. [[User:Kafka Liz|Kafka Liz]] ([[User talk:Kafka Liz|talk]]) 11:07, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:I remember seeing it displayed several years ago - mind boggling - I remember buying a postcard of it from the Cloisters store...[[User:Modernist|Modernist]] ([[User talk:Modernist|talk]]) 11:50, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:I think it should probably be removed. [[User talk:Ceoil|<span style="color:#006633">Ceoil</span>]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 17:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
::FWIW, I did as well. My first visit was around aged nine, and I was thoroughly enchanted. [[User:Kafka Liz|Kafka Liz]] ([[User talk:Kafka Liz|talk]]) 12:03, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
::I agree. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 03:53, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
::{{done-t}} [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]])
:::My kids were too; that is one of the most amazing works in the entire collection; totally incredible...[[User:Modernist|Modernist]] ([[User talk:Modernist|talk]]) 12:17, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::thank you; I appreciate the help [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Rimless Spectacles|Rimless Spectacles]] ([[User talk:Rimless Spectacles#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rimless Spectacles|contribs]]) 20:43, 20 February 2021 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Xsign -->
::::My folks had brought me there to hear the Waverly Consort. I did enjoy the music, but this really stole me, even at nine, and surrounded by unicorn tapestries. [[User:Kafka Liz|Kafka Liz]] ([[User talk:Kafka Liz|talk]]) 12:43, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::The website says 'not on view' otherwise I would have gone up and photographed it :(. --[[User:RegentsPark|regentspark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 13:58, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
: Now in the gallery in Section 6 (which maybe should actually be titled as a gallery?) —[[User:LuisVilla|Luis]] ([[User talk:LuisVilla|talk]]) 05:22, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


== Rockefeller's Palisades donation ==
==Request==
The commons images of the [[Doorway from Moutiers-Saint-Jean|Moutiers-Saint-Jean doorway]] are quite blurred, if any NYC people are in the Cloisters in the near future, can ye think about photographing and adding. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 16:56, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
* Looks like this was resolved with the Met's recent Open Access release <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em Avenir;color:#B048B5'>czar</span>]]</span> 21:31, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
* Indeed. And then some. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 14:33, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


"In 1933, Rockefeller donated several hundred acres of the New Jersey Palisades clifftops, which he had purchased over several years for the Palisades Interstate Park Commission to preserve the land from further development." Why is this relevant? Was this land across the Hudson even visible from the Cloisters on Manhattan? [[User:PRRfan|PRRfan]] ([[User talk:PRRfan|talk]]) 15:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
== refs ==


:The original myth is often used by the Cloisters to say "Rockefeller purchased the land across the river so that the Cloisters had a nice view" It is visible from the Cloisters, which is right along the Hudson River overlooking the Palisades. [[User:PalisadesResearch|PalisadesResearch]] ([[User talk:PalisadesResearch|talk]]) 16:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
OK if I add sfn, cite book, etc.?&nbsp;[[User:Lingzhi|Lingzhi]]&nbsp;♦&nbsp;[[User talk:Lingzhi|(talk)]] 09:29, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
::I don't mind if the sentence is removed, but the original sentence was already incorrect and thought to be connected to the section. Thank you! [[User:PalisadesResearch|PalisadesResearch]] ([[User talk:PalisadesResearch|talk]]) 16:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
:Yes. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 10:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
::It’s looking very good, lads. [[User:Kafka Liz|Kafka Liz]] ([[User talk:Kafka Liz|talk]]) 12:05, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
:::Thanks both, much clearer now. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 17:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
* Find or delete: Suda (2016), 89&nbsp;[[User:Lingzhi|Lingzhi]]&nbsp;♦&nbsp;[[User talk:Lingzhi|(talk)]] 12:44, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
:Dont shoot. This is about [[Gothic boxwood miniature]]s. Ellis, Lisa; Suda, Alexandra. "Small Wonders: Gothic Boxwood Miniatures". [[Art Gallery of Ontario]], 2016. {{ISBN|978-1-8942-4390-2}}. Both are curators at the [[Art Gallery of Ontario]], and are in the refs. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 12:52, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
* I can't find Clark, John. English and French Medieval Stained Glass in the Collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. New York: Harvey Miller Publishers, 2003. ISBN 978-1-8725-0137-6. I found these instead:
* {{cite book|ref=harv|last1=Hayward|first1=Jane|last2=Shepard|first2=Mary|last3=Clark|first3=Cynthia|title=English and French medieval stained glass in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=VKoJ6c4GLeQC&pg=PA31|year=2003|publisher=Metropolitan Museum of Art|isbn=978-1-872501-37-6}}
* {{cite book|ref=harv|last1=Hayward|first1=Jane|last2=Shepard|first2=Mary|last3=Clark|first3=Cynthia|title=English and French Medieval Stained Glass in the Collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=PZPDjwEACAAJ|date=October 2012|publisher=Yale University Press|isbn=978-0-300-19318-3}}&nbsp;[[User:Lingzhi|Lingzhi]]&nbsp;♦&nbsp;[[User talk:Lingzhi|(talk)]] 13:16, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
:The scholarship is very broad, so have removed these as not in use. "Further reading" not needed either. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 13:29, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
* there's no Clarke (2004)
* Bayard or Baynard?&nbsp;[[User:Lingzhi|Lingzhi]]&nbsp;♦&nbsp;[[User talk:Lingzhi|(talk)]] 13:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
::Ok, will take a look. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 21:23, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
:Clark should have been (2003), and Bayard correctly attributed now. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 21:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
::I don't hink that book was written by clark/clarke. I think it's:
* {{cite book |ref=harv |last1=Hayward |first1=Jane |last2=Shepard |first2=Mary |last3=Clark |first3=Cynthia |title=English and French Medieval Stained Glass in the Collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=PZPDjwEACAAJ|date=October 2012 |publisher=Yale University Press |isbn=978-0-300-19318-3}}&nbsp;[[User:Lingzhi|Lingzhi]]&nbsp;♦&nbsp;[[User talk:Lingzhi|(talk)]] 23:02, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:19, 20 September 2024

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Consensus request for editing introductory statement of "Garden" section.

[edit]

Section 3.2 begins with a confusing and unrelated fact regarding the use of gardens during the medieval era:

"During periods of political unrest and military invasion, gardens became essential for community survival.[116]"

The source cited (ISBN 978-0-87099-775-4) is text on both the gardens at The Cloisters, and the history of medieval gardens themselves. Though interesting, and perhaps relevant somewhere else in the article, this statement is a non-sequitor in its current context and should be removed from the garden section. Rimless Spectacles 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I think it should probably be removed. Ceoil (talk) 17:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:53, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Beyond My Ken (talk)
thank you; I appreciate the help Beyond My Ken — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rimless Spectacles (talkcontribs) 20:43, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rockefeller's Palisades donation

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"In 1933, Rockefeller donated several hundred acres of the New Jersey Palisades clifftops, which he had purchased over several years for the Palisades Interstate Park Commission to preserve the land from further development." Why is this relevant? Was this land across the Hudson even visible from the Cloisters on Manhattan? PRRfan (talk) 15:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The original myth is often used by the Cloisters to say "Rockefeller purchased the land across the river so that the Cloisters had a nice view" It is visible from the Cloisters, which is right along the Hudson River overlooking the Palisades. PalisadesResearch (talk) 16:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind if the sentence is removed, but the original sentence was already incorrect and thought to be connected to the section. Thank you! PalisadesResearch (talk) 16:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks both, much clearer now. Ceoil (talk) 17:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]