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== Fire OS == |
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== Fire OS 3.0 will not be made available for older devices == |
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/123918-amazon-kindle-fire-os-3-0-mojito-what-is-it-and-is-it-coming-to-my-tablet [[Special:Contributions/87.113.232.166|87.113.232.166]] ([[User talk:87.113.232.166|talk]]) 14:58, 12 October 2013 (UTC) |
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:Thanks [[Special:Contributions/156.34.85.34|156.34.85.34]] ([[User talk:156.34.85.34|talk]]) 08:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC) |
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== When was Android forked into Fire OS? And where do you draw the line between Android (AOSP) and the rest of the software? == |
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My edit has confused another editor and this is the right place to explain. I know [https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/fire/specifications.html] is a [[WP:PRIMARY]] source but I think that should tell us when Android was forked. I'm trying to tread lightly to avoid [[WP:OR]] but I can explain here. Some people might say the original Kindle included an Android fork as the user facing interface is different. This is not a simple issue as people disagree in general how an operating system is defined. In a very strict sense the [[Linux kernel]] is the operating system but a as a whole to run Android applications you have Android [[AOSP]] and that is the true OS. Note: This doesn't include Google Play or Google Applications. The homescreen is however also included in AOSP but is not part of "the underlying OS". Even Google has forked that into [[Proprietary software|proprietary]]. |
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Amazon says "Based on Android 2.3.3, API level 10" and "Based on Android 2.3.3, API level 10" (note however thereunder "android:largeHeap is ignored" that I just noticed). I assumed since they say "based on Android" (but "compatible with Android" for the new Fire OS) that Android as an operating system was not forked (changed OS source code). I would need a source for that. "Compatible" however implies "forked". In both cases I guess the "non-OS" homescreen app was forked (and Amazon App store, not Google Play included). [[User:Comp.arch|comp.arch]] ([[User talk:Comp.arch|talk]]) 14:06, 13 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:Amazon forks the AOSP code each time they create their versions of Fire OS see[http://www.androidcentral.com/what-fork-fork What is a fork?]. The fork part (where Amazon change's the OS source code) is that Amazon has to create its own set of APIs to interface with Android, since they cannot use Google's set of APIs since they are not following Google's standards. [[User:Frmorrison|Frmorrison]] ([[User talk:Frmorrison|talk]]) 21:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::Fire OS provides all the Android (AOSP) APIs (what they mean by "compatible"). What is excluded are Google's proprieatry APIs, that are '''not''' part of Android. From the good link you provided: "Making devices without Google's apps has nothing to do with forking Android." [[User:Comp.arch|comp.arch]] ([[User talk:Comp.arch|talk]]) 13:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Rewrote and sourced section on Android incompatibility. == |
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The previous reading sounded like it was impossible to sideload applications from Google Play store and others or root and install Google Play store and Google Services Framework. That's ridiculous and there are over 30 sources with information on how to do these things in my first page of searching DuckDuckGo from the last 3 years. If you don't like the sources then there are plenty more to pick through but you certainly can sideload or root/install Google Play, Google Mail, Google Maps, YouTube, etc. Sideloading Google Mail won't work as it requires password services to Google Framework but Google Maps and YouTube work sideloaded. [[Special:Contributions/97.85.173.38|97.85.173.38]] ([[User talk:97.85.173.38|talk]]) 01:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:The article *still* implies that Kindle Fires can't run non Amazon software. While it's not trivially easy, it's pretty straightforward to sideload Google Play. It's also fairly easy to replace the dreadful Fire app launcher with something better (I'm typing this on a KF7 using Microsoft Edge and the Google launcher). --[[User:Ef80|Ef80]] ([[User talk:Ef80|talk]]) 21:51, 23 November 2018 (UTC) |
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== Foxconn manufactures Fire Phones == |
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In the main article, the last paragraph in the Features section states that "''Members of the Open Handset Alliance (which include the majority of Android OEMs) are contractually forbidden to produce Android devices based on forks of the OS, therefore Kindle Fire tablets are manufactured by Quanta Computer who is not an OHA member.''" However, [[Foxconn]] is the manufacturer of the [[Fire Phone]] and Fire HDX devices, and it is still a member of the [[Open Handset Alliance #Members|OHA]]. This is because [[Original design manufacturer|ODMs]] and [[Contract manufacturer|Contract Manufacturers]] that are members of the OHA are not bound by platform exclusivity, only certain [[Original equipment manufacturer|OEMs]] are. Even then, OEMs like [[ZTE]] (for example) manufactures and sells phones with its own flavour of [[Android OS|Android]] without any [[Google Mobile Services|Google apps]] – the [http://www.ztedevices.co.uk/smartphone/zte-blade-s6/ ZTE Blade S6] –, as well as with the full [[Google]] experience. So no, [[Amazon.com|Amazon]] has not had to resort to a non-OHA manufacturer to produce the Fire devices, since Foxconn is making them and it is an OHA member. [[Special:Contributions/2620:0:1050:9:A14F:2F1A:ED0E:B6CE|2620:0:1050:9:A14F:2F1A:ED0E:B6CE]] ([[User talk:2620:0:1050:9:A14F:2F1A:ED0E:B6CE|talk]]) 10:12, 15 July 2015 (UTC) |
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== so is this like touchwiz, just a skin? == |
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in one of the OS release lines there was this link: [[Amazon Alexa]] - i now removed it as it looked totally non-relevant as if it had been an accidental insert. --[[User:Alexander.stohr|Alexander.stohr]] ([[User talk:Alexander.stohr|talk]]) |
in one of the OS release lines there was this link: [[Amazon Alexa]] - i now removed it as it looked totally non-relevant as if it had been an accidental insert. --[[User:Alexander.stohr|Alexander.stohr]] ([[User talk:Alexander.stohr|talk]]) |
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so is this like touchwiz, just a skin?
[edit]the first sentence says fire os is one of the mobile op with a link to that article. except there is no mention of fireOS in it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.102.205.179 (talk) 17:52, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Fire os defies numbering convention
[edit]The latest version is 5.6.0.1 while the highest numbered version is 6.2.1.0. 5.6 being tablet and 6.2 being for fire tv. But we have 6.2 listed as the latest edition.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 02:46, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
I have a Fire HD 8 6th generation and the OS on it was just updated from 5.6.8 to 5.7.0. Doesn't match the information currently on the page. Also goes with the person above, in that their version numbers seem to be all over the place depending on generation. 208.14.24.156 (talk) 00:57, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
remove a link to alexa
[edit]in one of the OS release lines there was this link: Amazon Alexa - i now removed it as it looked totally non-relevant as if it had been an accidental insert. --Alexander.stohr (talk)
"Amazon OS" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Amazon OS has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 April 26 § Amazon OS until a consensus is reached. Jeffhardyfan08 (talk) 20:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]окей она улыбнулась