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Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2021

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Add on Reception section "Jeremy Parish of Polygon ranked 73 fighters from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate "from garbage to glorious", placing Marth at 24th, describing him "The most legendary of Smash’s Fire Emblem heroes."^[1] Gavin Jasper of Den of Geek ranked Marth as 15th on his list of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate characters, stating "The Fire Emblem hero may not be the most charismatic fighter on the roster, but his backstory, unwavering moral compass, and ability to rally soldiers for the greater good makes him deserving of his legacy."^[2] 14.192.212.176 (talk) 23:16, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: Seems there is no consensus for this inclusion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please do not reopen edit requests without explaining why and adding additional comments. ––𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲 talk 04:05, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Parish, Jeremy (2018-12-03). "We rank the Smash Bros. (and friends)". Polygon. Retrieved 2020-11-05.
^ https://www.denofgeek.com/games/super-smash-bros-characters-ranked/

They can be added on reception section, so it can be improved like other articles. Good articles like Samus Aran and etc has it on their reception, as there are consensus to add listicle reliable source on reception that talks about character. 14.192.212.176 (talk) 04:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: As it stands, the text you want to add is full of puffery, and adds no substance to the Reception section. If you want to expand on the characters description feel free to start a section for discussion on the talk page, but please do not reopen the edit request. If you have a different edit request you would like to make, you may open a separate, new edit request. ––𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲 talk 04:26, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image

This isn't a huge deal, but why is the Smash Ultimate image being used? Unlike Roy, Marth didn't originate in the Smash series and his games were officially localized. I'd think some bit of art from either Shadow Dragon or New Mystery of the Emblem would be more appropriate. SnowFire (talk) 04:57, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image on infobox

I think we should use an image or artwork from a version of Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light or Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem rather than an art from a 4koma about a game that isn't even about Marth. Delsait (talk) 19:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When picking an image, there are factors that need to be considered. It's encouraged to use art from the source, but the source images are not necessarily the best. For example, Garnet (Final Fantasy) uses a spinoff art piece because the main image of her is a very awkward angle. His Famicom iteration is not in line with how most people know him, his Mystery of the Emblem image is too wide to comfortably fit, and his New Mystery of the Emblem image is also too wide. The Shadow Dragon image is not bad, but it obscures part of the Falchion's design. The 4koma image shows all relevant elements of his design. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Parish, Jeremy (2018-12-03). "We rank the Smash Bros. (and friends)". Polygon. Retrieved 2020-11-05.

[2] ttps://www.denofgeek.com/games/super-smash-bros-characters-ranked/

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 Add on Reception section "Jeremy Parish of ''[[Polygon (website)|Polygon]]'' ranked 73 fighters from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'' "from garbage to glorious", placing Marth at 24th, describing him "The most legendary of Smash’s Fire Emblem heroes."<ref>{{Cite web|last=Parish|first=Jeremy|date=2018-12-03|title=We rank the Smash Bros. (and friends)|url=https://www.polygon.com/features/2018/12/3/18120401/super-smash-bros-ultimate-character-rankings|access-date=2020-11-05|website=[[Polygon (website)|Polygon]]}}</ref> Gavin Jasper of ''[[Den of Geek]]'' ranked Marth as 15th on his list of ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' characters, stating "The Fire Emblem hero may not be the most charismatic fighter on the roster, but his backstory, unwavering moral compass, and ability to rally soldiers for the greater good makes him deserving of his legacy."<ref>https://www.denofgeek.com/games/super-smash-bros-characters-ranked/</ref> [[Special:Contributions/14.192.212.176|14.192.212.176]] ([[User talk:14.192.212.176|talk]]) 23:16, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
 :[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Seems there is no consensus for this inclusion. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 18:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
 :[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Please do not reopen edit requests without explaining why and adding additional comments. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2;font-size:100%">𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲</span>]] <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 04:05, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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-::::They can be added on reception section, so it can be improved like other articles. Good articles like [[Samus Aran]] and etc has it on their reception, as there are consensus to add listicle reliable source on reception that talks about character. [[Special:Contributions/49.228.224.219|49.228.224.219]] ([[User talk:49.228.224.219|talk]]) 04:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
+::::They can be added on reception section, so it can be improved like other articles. Good articles like [[Samus Aran]] and etc has it on their reception, as there are consensus to add listicle reliable source on reception that talks about character. [[Special:Contributions/14.192.212.176|14.192.212.176]] ([[User talk:14.192.212.176|talk]]) 04:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
+:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> As it stands, the text you want to add is full of [[MOS:PEACOCK|puffery]], and adds no substance to the Reception section. If you want to expand on the characters description feel free to start a section for discussion on the talk page, but please do not reopen the edit request. If you have a different edit request you would like to make, you may open a separate, new edit request. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2;font-size:100%">𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲</span>]] <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:2px 5px;background:#0151D2;font-size:75%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 04:26, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
+== Image ==
+This isn't a huge deal, but why is the Smash Ultimate image being used?  Unlike Roy, Marth didn't originate in the Smash series and his games were officially localized.  I'd think some bit of art from either Shadow Dragon or New Mystery of the Emblem would be more appropriate.  [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 04:57, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
+== Image on infobox ==
+I think we should use an image or artwork from a version of ''[[Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light]]'' or ''[[Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem]]'' rather than an art from a 4koma about a game that isn't even about Marth. [[User:Delsait|Delsait]] ([[User talk:Delsait|talk]]) 19:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
+:When picking an image, there are factors that need to be considered. It's encouraged to use art from the source, but the source images are not necessarily the best. For example, [[Garnet (Final Fantasy)]] uses a spinoff art piece because the main image of her is a very awkward angle. His Famicom iteration is not in line with how most people know him, his Mystery of the Emblem image is too wide to comfortably fit, and his New Mystery of the Emblem image is also too wide. The Shadow Dragon image is not bad, but it obscures part of the Falchion's design. The 4koma image shows all relevant elements of his design. - [[User:Cukie Gherkin|Cukie Gherkin]] ([[User talk:Cukie Gherkin|talk]]) 21:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)