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== Vandalism == |
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There appears to be a contradiction in the text of the article... |
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The final 21:32, 29 January 2012 is the date the vandalism began on the talk page. Up to that date there had been much discussion; now it is trashed for some reason. Call for experienced editor's oversight. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.81.189.241|74.81.189.241]] ([[User talk:74.81.189.241|talk]]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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The History section has a cited link mentioning that the original formulation of Gatorade contained an artificial sweetener. However, the composition section mentions that the original formula used sugar and syrup, with no mention of other sweeteners. Which is it? --[[User:DLWormwood|DLWormwood]] ([[User talk:DLWormwood|talk]]) 18:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC) |
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== Rebranding section == |
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Contrary to popular belief, the University of Florida did not come up with the sports drink that is now known as Gatorade. The team doctor for the FSU football team, Dr. R.A. Johnson, began producing a sports drink that he called "Seminole Firewater" as early as 1962. Dr. Johnson blended sugar and lime flavoring with electrolytes (salts) to help keep the players hydrated and to prevent cramping. In 1964 at an annual Seminar of Collegiate sports physicians and athletic trainers held in Tallahassee, Fl., a representative from the University of Florida found out about the discovery that sodium and potassium keeps athletes better hydrated because it gives back to the body what is lost through sweat. They returned to Gainesville and, after being tested on the UF football players, the name "Gatorade" was given. The University of Florida requested a certified patent in 1967 for the drink that Dr. Johnson had freely shared with the public. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sskyler328|Sskyler328]] ([[User talk:Sskyler328|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sskyler328|contribs]]) 22:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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The Prime 01 paragraph reads: The Prime 01 product line consists of a pre-game fuel in a snot consistency, positioned for consumption prior to athletic activity. Pretty sure "snot consistency" is vandalism. Tried to find out what it should be, but it seems to be pretty far back in the history. Can someone track it down and fix it. Thanks. -- [[User:Greenmango|Greenmango]] ([[User talk:Greenmango|talk]]) 20:35, 11 February 2012 (UTC) |
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== Incorrect Nutrition Information == |
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It was invented in Nebraska. |
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[http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=1593924] <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.32.227.114|64.32.227.114]] ([[User talk:64.32.227.114|talk]]) 22:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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The nutrition information in the boxes at the right side of the page does not agree with the Gatorade web site information. Also, some information appears twice, in the text and in the boxes. Better to have only one copy of information in the article. Can't edit it now, myself. |
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==Flavors== |
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[[User:7802mark|7802mark]] ([[User talk:7802mark|talk]]) 16:30, 5 July 2015 (UTC) |
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Perhaps a list of all the flavors would be a good new section. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Darth Beppo|Darth Beppo]] ([[User talk:Darth Beppo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Darth Beppo|contribs]]) 00:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Two nutrition boxes == |
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How about explaining why Tiger Gatorrade was discontinued as well? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.107.152.206|24.107.152.206]] ([[User talk:24.107.152.206|talk]]) 00:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I changed a statement about cyclamate from "banned by the FDA in 1969 <k>after it was shown to cause bladder cancer</k>". It was indeed banned, although not in all countries, but the statement suggests that it was proven to cause bladder cancer in humans. At [[cyclamate]], the actual details are given. Cyclamate was given to rats at very high doses, equivalent to a human consuming 350 cans of diet soda a day. There are claims the study was not reproducible, which may mean the results were falsified, and I don't think an article about a drink needs to enter into that controversy. It's sufficient to say the formula was changed after the FDA ban. |
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==Researchers has to be updated== |
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The article does not mention Dr. de Quesada.<br /> |
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This is the text from http://www.gatorade.com/history/born_in_the_lab/ <br /> |
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<blockquote>...Dr. Robert Cade, Dr. Dana Shires, Dr. H. James Free and Dr. Alejandro de Quesada ...</blockquote> |
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greetings from Santiago, Chile <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Tomasgreene|Tomasgreene]] ([[User talk:Tomasgreene|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tomasgreene|contribs]]) 14:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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There are two nutrition boxes, labeled "Original Gatorade Thirst Quencher" and "Gatorade Perform 02". The original has 10 g of sugar and 5 mg of sodium, while the modern form has 21 g of sugar and 150 mg of sodium. Though there is only a 30 kcal difference, the two charts suggest that Gatorade has become less healthy since its origin, and that is probably the intent. So, what ''is'' the "original" formula? Is it the experimental formula Cade started with? Is it the Stokely-van Camp product from before 1969, or after 1969 when cyclamate was removed? The first chart should be clear about that or it should be removed, because it seems to have a purpose in being there, that is, to show how liquid candy is ruining the world. (I have no involvement with Gatorade or any drinks manufacturer.) [[User:Roches|Roches]] ([[User talk:Roches|talk]]) 18:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:Thank you. I have fixed the article and added a link to the reference you provided. I also reformatted your comment a bit, as it didn't quite work (there is no reference list on the talk page, and your four-tilde signature wasn't picked up by the page, hence the "unsigned" template). '''[[User:Horologium|<font color="DarkSlateGray">Horologium</font>]]''' <small>[[User talk:Horologium|(talk)]]</small> 14:41, 22 November 2008 (UTC) |
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Along these lines, the statement "There are 34 g of sugar (8 teaspoons) in one 20 US fluid ounces (590 ml) bottle of regular Gatorade." is apparently contradicted by other body text and both nutrition boxes. Maybe there are Gatorade flavors with this much sugar, or maybe there used to be, but currently this is an unsupported statement and it needs to be supported or removed. [[Special:Contributions/76.20.110.219|76.20.110.219]] ([[User talk:76.20.110.219|talk]]) 20:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC) |
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This information is incorrect. Gatorade was patented by University of Florida in 1965. However, it was created by an FSU researcher in 1962 and was originally known as "Seminole Firewater." This was highlighted during the 2008 FSU vs. UF football game by ABC commentators on 11/29/2008. |
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== External links modified == |
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There are no reliable sources that can confirm the trivia question on ABC referred to by the previous commenter. It is nothing more than an urban legend -(11/29/2008 9:10pm) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.74.248.83|74.74.248.83]] ([[User talk:74.74.248.83|talk]]) 02:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oTUJTI_tVG0/STWdDLsvuQI/AAAAAAAAAeA/mPbAY6pXkI8/s1600-h/Seminolefirewater.jpg This article from the Tampa Tribune] is the evidence FSU supporters use. [[Special:Contributions/147.9.156.201|147.9.156.201]] ([[User talk:147.9.156.201|talk]]) 17:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC) |
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==G2 - correct list of flavors== |
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Fruit Punch |
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Orange |
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Grape |
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Lemon-Lime |
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== External links modified == |
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Strawberry Kiwi |
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Blueberry-Pomegranate |
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==Carbonated Gatorade== |
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Does anybody remember Carbonated Gatorade? Probably early 70's and it wasn't around long. It was delicious! I remember having it at a Goony Golf/Go Kart Track in Tampa, Florida.[[Special:Contributions/66.236.254.36|66.236.254.36]] ([[User talk:66.236.254.36|talk]]) 19:43, 15 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Mission G commercials== |
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Does anyone have information about how Mission G and those G commercials are related to Gatorade? I can't find anything and expected to find something here, but nothing. The only mention of Gatorade on the missiong website is on the terms and conditions where it says its the Gatorade company. -- [[User:Suso|Suso]] ([[User talk:Suso|talk]]) 11:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC) |
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==Gatorade now has high fructose corn syrup as the sweetener== |
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Can someone add that for me please?[[User:Powers m|Powers m]] ([[User talk:Powers m|talk]]) 22:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== External links modified == |
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==SoftDrinks importance rating== |
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I changed it to 'high' importance from 'top'. IMHO, Gatorade is not a core soft drink topic, nor is widely known globally. [[User:Andyo2000|Andyo2000]] ([[User talk:Andyo2000|talk]]) 14:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC) |
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==Nutrition information== |
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I don't have any standard Gatorade labels handy, but the bottle of G2 right next to me reads 10% RDV of vitamins C and E, and 25% RDV of niacin, B6, and pantothenic acid. You might want to fix that. Update: a quick glance at a bottle of standard Gatorade reveals 50 calories, 110mg sodium, and 30mg potassium per serving, not the 63, 95, and 36.6 that are currently listed. Please edit the article accordingly.[[Special:Contributions/99.157.206.162|99.157.206.162]] ([[User talk:99.157.206.162|talk]]) 00:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC) |
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Hey guys, if you're not going to correct this misinformation, then at least unlock the article so that someone else can fix it.[[Special:Contributions/69.109.228.165|69.109.228.165]] ([[User talk:69.109.228.165|talk]]) 19:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC) |
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==[[Cool Blue]]== |
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This is listed under [[blue raspberry]] as a flavor of Gatorade. I can't find info about it on this page. If anyone has any, could you add a disambig to the name for it? It's also a movie is why. [[User:Tyciol|Tyciol]] ([[User talk:Tyciol|talk]]) 20:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== ''Idiocracy'' == |
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The pop culture section could tell about [[Idiocracy]]. In this Sci-fi movie, a Gatorade-like drink (described as some kind of Gatorade) called Brawndo replaces water everywhere except in the toilets. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.66.166.72|86.66.166.72]] ([[User talk:86.66.166.72|talk]]) 17:58, 31 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Or not. See [[WP:TRIV]]. And it's not actually Gatorade, so this idea would violate [[WP:ROC]]. — <font face="Trebuchet MS">'''[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]''' <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:SMcCandlish|Talk⇒]] ʕ(<sup>Õ</sup>ل<sup>ō</sup>)ˀ</span> <small>[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|Contribs]].</small></font> 21:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== Reorganize == |
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Recommend moving "2009 Rebranding" as subsection under History. [[User:Sueswim03|Sueswim03]] ([[User talk:Sueswim03|talk]]) 01:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)<br> |
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Also recommend creating sections "Products" and "Former Products." Then, under "Products," list current products and move current "G2" section to subsection under "Products." Move current "Tiger" and "Gator Gum" sections to subsections under "Former Products" heading. [[User:Sueswim03|Sueswim03]] ([[User talk:Sueswim03|talk]]) 01:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC) |
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I think this section should be deleted. The products still say "Gatorade Rain" etc. on the bottles--I believe these are just messages/slogans on the bottle--similar to how bottles of Jones' Soda appear under the cap. [[User:Modor|Modor]] ([[User talk:Modor|talk]]) 12:34, 24 December 2009 (UTC) |
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Recommend splitting G2 section into new article especially because G2 Composition infobox looks out of place in current format; keep summary of G2 in current article. [[User:Sueswim03|Sueswim03]] ([[User talk:Sueswim03|talk]]) 01:37, 14 November 2009 (UTC) |
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:There's not nearly enough content here about G2 to warrant a [[WP:SPLIT|split]]. — <font face="Trebuchet MS">'''[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]''' <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:SMcCandlish|Talk⇒]] ʕ(<sup>Õ</sup>ل<sup>ō</sup>)ˀ</span> <small>[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|Contribs]].</small></font> 21:22, 6 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== Competition section needs correction == |
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This content is no longer correct. The All Sport brand is now owned by All Sport, Inc. The brand was acquired from The Monarch Company in July 2007. See below for source - |
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All Sport is a competitor marketed by The Monarch Beverage Company, located in Atlanta, Georgia. All Sport was marketed by PepsiCo until 2001 when Gatorade's maker, the Quaker Oats Company, was acquired by PepsiCo and was soon after sold off to the Monarch Beverage Company. |
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Also this week, Atlanta-based Monarch Beverages completed a deal to sell its All Sport business to Austin, TX-based Gary Smith, former chief operating officer for Red Bull energy drink. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Aad3284|Aad3284]] ([[User talk:Aad3284|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aad3284|contribs]]) 17:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Entire article sounds like marketing PR == |
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Why does this entire article sound like it was written by a PR person at Gatorade? [[Special:Contributions/63.86.107.162|63.86.107.162]] ([[User talk:63.86.107.162|talk]]) 16:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC) |
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:I would agree. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Micksterama|Micksterama]] ([[User talk:Micksterama|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Micksterama|contribs]]) 20:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:As a procedural matter, I've tagged it with [[Template:Ad]], pending resolution of the issue. — <font face="Trebuchet MS">'''[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]''' <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:SMcCandlish|Talk⇒]] ʕ(<sup>Õ</sup>ل<sup>ō</sup>)ˀ</span> <small>[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|Contribs]].</small></font> 21:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC) |
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:That's overstating things, large parts of the article were fine when I found it. I've made some tweaks and removed the tag. [[User:Choalbaton|Choalbaton]] ([[User talk:Choalbaton|talk]]) 00:06, 24 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== Gator Gum section is self-contradictory == |
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== Misleading Section Titles == |
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The section in question says that the gum both WAS an electrolyte gum with at least a rehydration-assisting function, and yet that it WASN'T a product with Gatorade electrolytes and served no actual function aside from being regular gum. We can't have it both ways. A source needs to be cited on this (even an original wrapper's contents list could be cited as as source, if anyone has one). Also, it's entirely unclear in this section if the revived product had any differences from the original. Practically nothing is said at all about the second-run version, and there's no source for the idea that this version even existed. |
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Also the article states that the gum contained electrolytes to assist rehydration. This is not true because the salt ions, otherwise known as electrolytes, would require the occupation of water molecules to remain stable. Since the gum does not in any way introduce any water, it would ultimately only decrease the available water in the body and therefore would actually counter the rehydration process. — <font face="Trebuchet MS">'''[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]''' <span style="white-space:nowrap;">[[User talk:SMcCandlish|Talk⇒]] ʕ(<sup>Õ</sup>ل<sup>ō</sup>)ˀ</span> <small>[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|Contribs]].</small></font> 21:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC) |
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If just reading the section title "Gatorade and oral rehydration" I would never guessed that the content of the section would be about the inappropriate use of the drink as rehydration supplies for refugees of the Rwandan genocide. And reading "Advertising and publicity" I wouldn't expect to hear that their advertising led to someone dying from exercise-associated hyponatremia. |
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== Seeking feedback on proposed revision == |
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I'm not sure what the remedy is here, whether the titles should be changed or the information should be reorganized. Maybe a "Controversies" section is warranted. [[User:Willthamic|Willthamic]] ([[User talk:Willthamic|talk]]) 16:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC) |
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There seem to be a handful of issues keeping this from being a [[WP:GA|good article]], so I've taken some time to address them in hopes of bringing this article back up to par. The factors holding this article back at the moment are: |
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: Another possible entry into "controversies" would be the apparent restrictions on Gatorade in Norway, Austria and New Zealand visible on the map in the article. There is no mention of these -- except to say that Gatorade was "reintroduced" in New Zealand! Why "re"? Will the Pepsi people allow this article to say? [[Special:Contributions/71.167.255.2|71.167.255.2]] ([[User talk:71.167.255.2|talk]]) 02:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC) |
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1. '''Intro/lead''' is currently a bit too short, at two sentences, and does not adequately summarize the contents of the article. |
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2. [[Gatorade#History|History]] section starts off well (first paragraph); however it ends abruptly in 1983. Quite a lot has happened since 1983, including an acquisition which is properly reflected in the infobox but not at all in the History section. |
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3. The formatting of the '''Products''' section (currently split into “[[Gatorade#Current_products|Current]]” and “[[Gatorade#Former_products|Former]]”) is problematic for two main reasons: |
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*The separation of current and former products is not an ideal fit for this article, as this format has resulted in a total of 7 sub-sections which jump around (not in a chronological order) and make it confusing for the reader to follow. This would be more clear and informative in a chronological format, mostly in prose. This also makes sense for Gatorade, as many of the products (flavors) are not discontinued; they are merely re-named (e.g. "Ice" launched in 2002, became "Rain" in 2006, became "No Excuses" in 2009...) |
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*This separation is also problematic from a WP:WORLDVIEW perspective. For example, that newer line (the “G series”) is in production in the U.S.; however it has not yet been released in Canada. Therefore, the existing article is correct for U.S. residents, yet incorrect for those in Canada. |
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4. Many of the [[Gatorade#References|sources]] used do not meet [[WP:RS]] and/or [[WP:V]] criteria, and some are now dead links. Examples include: |
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*Citations 5 through 13 are intended to indicate sports leagues of which Gatorade is an official sponsor. However these are simply links to the homepages of each league’s website (nfl.com, nba.com, etc.) |
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*Paragraph on the Gatorade Energy Bar is entirely unsourced |
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*Too many citations are reliant on the subject of the article itself, when independent sources are available. This not only results in biased information; it results in dead links (such as http://gatorade.com/tiger - citation #25) |
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*The only citation currently backing up the "Gatorade shower" paragraph (which is important) is http://ask.yahoo.com/20050127.html - an “Ask Yahoo!” post which is not a WP:RS |
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So with the intent of bringing this article up to Wikipedia’s own standards, I began (and have now finished) putting together a revision which is saved in my userspace here: [[User:Jeff_Bedford/Gatorade]]. I’ve tackled all of the issues presented above in this draft --with the most significant changes including an expanded (and sourced) ''History'' section, and a restructured ''Products'' section, modeled after the [[Burger_King#Products|Burger King products section]]. Also of note, Gatorade’s parent company, PepsiCo, is a present client of my employer. Identifying that this can at times present a [[WP:COI]], I felt it important to note this upfront so that others may consider it when reading through my userspace draft. I think you’ll see that I’ve paid careful attention to [[WP:NPOV]], and in this case I actually made several phrasing changes to restructure the existing phrasing into a more neutral, encyclopedic tone. |
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If it is of interest, let me know what you think. All feedback is welcome. Cheers, [[User:Jeff Bedford|Jeff Bedford]] ([[User talk:Jeff Bedford|talk]]) 03:10, 25 January 2011 (UTC) |
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Vandalism
[edit]The final 21:32, 29 January 2012 is the date the vandalism began on the talk page. Up to that date there had been much discussion; now it is trashed for some reason. Call for experienced editor's oversight. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.81.189.241 (talk)
Rebranding section
[edit]The Prime 01 paragraph reads: The Prime 01 product line consists of a pre-game fuel in a snot consistency, positioned for consumption prior to athletic activity. Pretty sure "snot consistency" is vandalism. Tried to find out what it should be, but it seems to be pretty far back in the history. Can someone track it down and fix it. Thanks. -- Greenmango (talk) 20:35, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Incorrect Nutrition Information
[edit]The nutrition information in the boxes at the right side of the page does not agree with the Gatorade web site information. Also, some information appears twice, in the text and in the boxes. Better to have only one copy of information in the article. Can't edit it now, myself. 7802mark (talk) 16:30, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Two nutrition boxes
[edit]I changed a statement about cyclamate from "banned by the FDA in 1969 <k>after it was shown to cause bladder cancer</k>". It was indeed banned, although not in all countries, but the statement suggests that it was proven to cause bladder cancer in humans. At cyclamate, the actual details are given. Cyclamate was given to rats at very high doses, equivalent to a human consuming 350 cans of diet soda a day. There are claims the study was not reproducible, which may mean the results were falsified, and I don't think an article about a drink needs to enter into that controversy. It's sufficient to say the formula was changed after the FDA ban.
There are two nutrition boxes, labeled "Original Gatorade Thirst Quencher" and "Gatorade Perform 02". The original has 10 g of sugar and 5 mg of sodium, while the modern form has 21 g of sugar and 150 mg of sodium. Though there is only a 30 kcal difference, the two charts suggest that Gatorade has become less healthy since its origin, and that is probably the intent. So, what is the "original" formula? Is it the experimental formula Cade started with? Is it the Stokely-van Camp product from before 1969, or after 1969 when cyclamate was removed? The first chart should be clear about that or it should be removed, because it seems to have a purpose in being there, that is, to show how liquid candy is ruining the world. (I have no involvement with Gatorade or any drinks manufacturer.) Roches (talk) 18:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Along these lines, the statement "There are 34 g of sugar (8 teaspoons) in one 20 US fluid ounces (590 ml) bottle of regular Gatorade." is apparently contradicted by other body text and both nutrition boxes. Maybe there are Gatorade flavors with this much sugar, or maybe there used to be, but currently this is an unsupported statement and it needs to be supported or removed. 76.20.110.219 (talk) 20:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]If just reading the section title "Gatorade and oral rehydration" I would never guessed that the content of the section would be about the inappropriate use of the drink as rehydration supplies for refugees of the Rwandan genocide. And reading "Advertising and publicity" I wouldn't expect to hear that their advertising led to someone dying from exercise-associated hyponatremia.
I'm not sure what the remedy is here, whether the titles should be changed or the information should be reorganized. Maybe a "Controversies" section is warranted. Willthamic (talk) 16:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Another possible entry into "controversies" would be the apparent restrictions on Gatorade in Norway, Austria and New Zealand visible on the map in the article. There is no mention of these -- except to say that Gatorade was "reintroduced" in New Zealand! Why "re"? Will the Pepsi people allow this article to say? 71.167.255.2 (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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