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Etymology section

"The etymological approach is criticised by some historians. John Dickie argues that "the flattering connotations of the word 'Ndrangheta (courage, martial prowess, manliness) indicate that the 'Ndrangheta as a social phenomenon was rooted in the same positive values, and that it only later degenerated into criminality." "

This bit does not seem to make much sense. The second sense seems to confirm the etymological approach, not criticize it. Rodrigo de Salvo Braz (talk) 03:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Etymology section ==
-== Supposed pre-1955 use of the word 'Ndrangheta ==
+"The etymological approach is criticised by some historians. John Dickie argues that "the flattering connotations of the word 'Ndrangheta (courage, martial prowess, manliness) indicate that the 'Ndrangheta as a social phenomenon was rooted in the same positive values, and that it only later degenerated into criminality." "
+This bit does not seem to make much sense. The second sense seems to confirm the etymological approach, not criticize it.
-I have removed the claim that evidence supports the pre-1955 appearance of the word 'Ndrangheta. There is a failure here to understand that the dates assigned to journals and multi-volume works on Google Books do not necessarily correspond with the date of its "snippet view" articles. (1) The citation from ''Keesing's Contemporary Archives'' mentions an arrest "in Naples on March 1, 1984." So it is not from 1931. (2) The ''Enciclopedia italiana di scienze, lettere ed arti'' citation is taken from the "Quinta appendice" supplementary volume (1979-1992) (as per the Google Books front page photo). So it is not from 1938. (3) The "Notes et études documentaires" snippet view citation mentions an event in December 1990. So it is not from 1949.  [[Special:Contributions/213.205.241.233|213.205.241.233]] ([[User talk:213.205.241.233|talk]]) 21:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
+[[User:Rodrigo braz|Rodrigo de Salvo Braz]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo braz|talk]]) 03:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)