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Etymology section

"The etymological approach is criticised by some historians. John Dickie argues that "the flattering connotations of the word 'Ndrangheta (courage, martial prowess, manliness) indicate that the 'Ndrangheta as a social phenomenon was rooted in the same positive values, and that it only later degenerated into criminality." "

This bit does not seem to make much sense. The second sense seems to confirm the etymological approach, not criticize it. Rodrigo de Salvo Braz (talk) 03:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Recent News ==
+== Etymology section ==
-While this topic is very much outside my wheelhouse or typical field of interest, there was a major story of a multinational bust-up of the group reported by CNN today (05/22/2019):
-*[https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/22/europe/europe-crime-gang-smashed-intl/index.html Europe Crime Gang Smashed]
-Use the source as you will. Cheers, - [[User:Jack Sebastian|Jack Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Jack Sebastian|talk]]) 13:11, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
-:It doesn't mention the 'Ndrangheta by name for the bust today, only a previous unrelated bust. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 13:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
-== Is this info correct? ==
-:@[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]] Please check the recent edits; should that info be included or not?
+"The etymological approach is criticised by some historians. John Dickie argues that "the flattering connotations of the word 'Ndrangheta (courage, martial prowess, manliness) indicate that the 'Ndrangheta as a social phenomenon was rooted in the same positive values, and that it only later degenerated into criminality." "
-      The Moretti clan is a group of the societa foggiana, and is allied to the ndrangheta and the Camorra, as we can see in this article - https://www.immediato.net/2018/02/06/societa-foggiana-ecco-chi-comanda-ora-scalata-al-potere-dei-moretti-sostenuti-da-camorra-e-ndrangheta-sinesi-in-difficolta/
-[[User:Peter K Burian|Peter K Burian]] ([[User talk:Peter K Burian|talk]]) 21:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
-:The [https://www.immediato.net/2018/02/06/societa-foggiana-ecco-chi-comanda-ora-scalata-al-potere-dei-moretti-sostenuti-da-camorra-e-ndrangheta-sinesi-in-difficolta/ IP's source] does seem to indicate their alliance. However, the [[Società Foggiana]] is also a division of [[Sacra Corona Unita]], who are allies, so then I'm not sure if it's necessary to list them both. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 21:10, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
+This bit does not seem to make much sense. The second sense seems to confirm the etymological approach, not criticize it.
-::Your call...you are more experienced than me. Cheers, P. [[User:Peter K Burian|Peter K Burian]] ([[User talk:Peter K Burian|talk]]) 22:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
+[[User:Rodrigo braz|Rodrigo de Salvo Braz]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo braz|talk]]) 03:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::I'm inclined to leave it, unless anyone else has an objection. '''[[User:Vaselineeeeeeee|<b style="color:black">Vaseline</b><b style="color:lightgrey">eeeeeee</b>]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Vaselineeeeeeee|<span style="color:gold">★★★</span>]]</small></sup>''' 22:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)