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[[William Weld]] [[Special:Contributions/2605:A601:A0C0:AA00:7700:61AA:B056:8B0B|2605:A601:A0C0:AA00:7700:61AA:B056:8B0B]] ([[User talk:2605:A601:A0C0:AA00:7700:61AA:B056:8B0B|talk]]) 22:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
[[William Weld]] [[Special:Contributions/2605:A601:A0C0:AA00:7700:61AA:B056:8B0B|2605:A601:A0C0:AA00:7700:61AA:B056:8B0B]] ([[User talk:2605:A601:A0C0:AA00:7700:61AA:B056:8B0B|talk]]) 22:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Examiner? == |
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Apparently examiner.com is considered a bad source for Wikipedia? Anyone know why? If an exception can be made for a particular page, this article could be useful here: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=%22Banking+on+Congress,+%E2%80%98Week+of+Action%E2%80%99+begins+Monday+in+D.C.%22&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest (this is the only way I can manage to put a link here. Someone must really dislike the Examiner.) |
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[[User:Joe Bodacious|Joe Bodacious]] ([[User talk:Joe Bodacious|talk]]) 20:06, 5 May 2013 (UTC) |
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:http://www.sfweekly.com/2007-12-05/news/blogos-free/ is a good read for why the examiner.com is a bad source.[[User:Serialjoepsycho|Serialjoepsycho]] ([[User talk:Serialjoepsycho|talk]]) 00:13, 19 May 2014 (UTC) |
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:People coming from Examiner.com created a huge mess on Wikipedia some years back when they were spamming Examiner links into many, many articles. It turned out that they were trying to get more eyeballs on their articles because they were then paid more by advertisers. That practice left Wikipedia with a very scornful attitude toward the blogging website, aside from the obvious problem that there is no editorial oversight. |
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:Regarding the linked article by Kenric Ward, called "Banking on Congress, ‘Week of Action’ begins Monday in D.C.", published this time last year, I don't see any compelling reason to try and get the blacklist lifted. The only thing it says about LaRouchism is that Paul Gallagher, LaRouchite economics editor, thinks that [[Glass–Steagall Legislation]] should be restored for a healthy American economy. Gallagher's views are not analyzed—they are presented verbatim—so this is a primary source. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 02:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC) |
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Who is Weld?
[edit]"According to courtroom testimony by FBI agent Richard Egan, Jeffrey and Michelle Steinberg, the heads of LaRouche's security unit, boasted of placing harassing phone calls all through the night to the general counsel of the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) when the FEC was investigating LaRouche's political contributions.[41]
During the grand jury hearings followers picketed the courthouse, chanted "Weld is a fag",[78] distributed leaflets accusing Weld of involvement in drug dealing, and "sang a jingle advocating that he be hanged in public".[79]" This is the first and only mention of Weld in this article. Who is this?
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Far right?
[edit]Although the article says this organization is far right the other substantive portions of the article seem to indicate that the group is left wing and supports parties generally seem as on the left E.g. Democrats in the United States. Should this be removed? 73.48.251.0 (talk) 03:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- The categorization includes it under Category:Syncretic political movements. Dimadick (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Europe section
[edit]I'm copying the whole of the current Europe section here because I'm going to delete most of it from the article. My reasons for deletion are that it has a lot of unreferenced statements, relies excessively and (in parts) exclusively on primary sources, and because most of it does not contain anything controversial despite being in the Controversy section of the article. It's just like a list of "Look this European country also has a branch of the movement, and this European person said they like LaRouche". I won't delete the stuff that is actually about something controversial. So here's the copied European section:
The LaRouche Movement has a major center in Germany. The Bürgerrechtsbewegung Solidarität (BüSo) (Civil Rights Movement Solidarity) political party is headed by Helga Zepp-LaRouche, LaRouche's widow. It has nominated candidates for elective office and publishes the Neue Solidarität newspaper.[citation needed] Zepp-LaRouche is also the head of the German-based Schiller Institute. In 1986, Zepp-LaRouche formed the "Patriots for Germany" party, and announced that it would run a full slate of 100 candidates. The party received 0.2 percent of the 4 million votes and "failed to elect any candidates to the parliament".[1] In Germany, the leader of the Green Party, Petra Kelly, reported receiving harassing phone calls that she attributed to BüSo supporters. Her speeches were picketed and disrupted by LaRouche followers for years.[2]Jeremiah Duggan, a student from the UK attending a conference organized by the Schiller Institute and LaRouche Youth Movement in 2003, died in Wiesbaden, Germany, after he ran down a busy road and was hit by several cars. The German police said it appeared to be suicide. A British court ruled that Duggan had died while "in a state of terror."[3] Duggan's mother believes he died in connection with an attempt to recruit him. The German public prosecution service said her son committed suicide.[4] The High Court in London ordered a second inquest in May 2010, which was opened and adjourned.[5] In 2015, a British coroner rejected the suicide verdict and found that Duggan's body bore unexplained injuries which indicated an "altercation at some stage before his death."[6]Solidarité et progrès (Solidarity and Progress), headed by Jacques Cheminade, is the LaRouche party in France. The party was previously known as Parti ouvrier européen (European Workers' Party) and Fédération pour une nouvelle solidarité (Federation for a New Solidarity). Its newspaper is Nouvelle Solidarité.[7][non-primary source needed] Cheminade ran for President of France in 1995, 2012 and 2017, finishing last each time. The French LaRouche Youth Movement is headed by Élodie Viennot. Viennot supported the candidacy of Daniel Buchmann for the position of mayor of Berlin.[citation needed]
Sweden has an office of the Schiller Institute (Schillerinstitutet)[8][better source needed] and the political party European Worker's Party (EAP). The former leader of the EAP, Ulf Sandmark, started as a member of the Swedish Social Democratic Youth League (SSU), and was assigned to investigate the EAP and the ELC. After joining the EAP, he had his membership in SSU revoked. Following the Olof Palme assassination on February 28, 1986, the Swedish branch of the EAP came under scrutiny as literature published by the party was found in the apartment of the initial suspect, Victor Gunnarsson. Soon after the assassination, NBC television in the U.S. speculated[citation needed] that LaRouche was somehow responsible.[9][non-primary source needed] Later, the suspect was released. No connection with LaRouche was shown.[citation needed]In Denmark, four candidates for parliament on the LaRouche platform (Tom Gillesberg, Feride Istogu Gillesberg and Hans Schultz)[10][non-primary source needed] received 197 votes in the 2007 election (at least 32,000 votes are needed for a local mandate). The Danish LaRouche Movement (Schiller Instituttet)'s first newspaper distributed 50,000 copies around Copenhagen and Aarhus.[11][non-primary source needed]The Movimento Solidarietà – Associazione di LaRouche in Italia (MSA) is an Italian political party headed by Paolo Raimondi that supports the LaRouche platform.[citation needed]Ortrun Cramer of the Schiller Institute became a delegate of the Austrian International Progress Organization in the 1990s, but there is no sign of ongoing relationship.[12][better source needed][13][non-primary source needed]Polish newspapers[which?] have reported that Andrzej Lepper, leader of the populist Samoobrona party, was trained at the Schiller Institute and has received funding from LaRouche, though both Lepper and LaRouche deny the connection.[14][15]Nataliya Vitrenko, leader of the Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine, has stated multiple times that she supports LaRouche's ideals.[citation needed]In February 2008, the LaRouche movement in Europe began a campaign to prevent the ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon, which, according to the U.S.-based LaRouche Political Action Committee, "empowers a supranational financial elite to take over the right of taxation and war making, and even restore the death penalty, abolished in most nations of Western Europe."[16][non-primary source needed] LaRouche press releases suggest that the treaty has an underlying fascist agenda, based on the "Europe a Nation" ideas of Sir Oswald Mosley.[17][non-primary source needed] Nakonana (talk) 21:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Actually decided against deletion and instead moved everything non-controversial to the International section, and kept the controversial stuff in the Controversy section. The relevant edits: [1] [2] Nakonana (talk) 21:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Narrow state election victory gives boost to Kohl coalition". Houston Chronicle. June 16, 1986. Archived from the original on January 14, 2009. Retrieved January 30, 2008.
- ^ James M. Markham (June 30, 1986). "LaRouche Stirs in Germany". The New York Times.
- ^ "No Joke", By April Witt, The Washington Post Sunday, October 24, 2004; Page W12
- ^ Degen, Wolfgang, "Nur die Legende hat ein langes Leben", Wiesbadener Kurier, April 19, 2007 (German); Google translation.
- ^ "Fresh inquest into student death" Archived May 23, 2010, at the Wayback Machine, BBC News, May 20, 2010.
- ^ Student Jeremiah Duggan's death not suicide, coroner rules Archived July 3, 2017, at the Wayback Machine, BBC News, 20 May 2015
- ^ "Solidarité &; Progrès – Actualité". Solidariteetprogres.org. Archived from the original on May 11, 2011. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
- ^ "LaRoucherörelsen i Sverige". Nysol.se. Archived from the original on January 22, 2009. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
- ^ "Has Your Neighbor Been Brainwashed About Lyndon LaRouche?". larouchepub.com. Archived from the original on September 16, 2020. Retrieved September 7, 2020.
- ^ "Schiller Instituttet i Danmark". Schillerinstitut.dk. Archived from the original on October 11, 2007. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
- ^ Schiller Instituttet Kampagnaviser Archived November 9, 2007, at the Wayback Machine Schiller Instituttes Venner webpage
- ^ "Non-governmental, Individual Experts, Academic, Scientific, Research and Professional Organizations". Archived from the original on December 14, 2004. Retrieved July 23, 2007.
- ^ "LaRouche Connection Master List 1995–present". Larouchepub.com. Archived from the original on August 4, 2007. Retrieved 2008-10-23.
- ^ "Antisemitism and Racism". Tau.ac.il. Archived from the original on April 4, 2008. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
- ^ "LaRouche Committee Denounces Polish Press Lies". Larouchepub.com. Archived from the original on December 14, 2004. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
- ^ "Italian Senator Exposes Secret Plan for Fascism in Europe | LaRouche Political Action Committee". Larouchepac.com. Archived from the original on November 9, 2008. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
- ^ "Lisbon Treaty Based on Program of British Fascist Oswald Mosley | LaRouche Political Action Committee". Larouchepac.com. Archived from the original on September 8, 2008. Retrieved 2008-11-23.
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