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==Problems with existing lists== |
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# The additions of [[Eilean Fladday]] and [[Eilean Tigh]] are now fixed courtesy of Finavon, but [[Eilean Trodday]] is more problematic. Measured at 42ha from the OS this is the first (and presumably last) occasion when we have come across an island that is not tidal and >40ha. Leave it at 42 ha with explanations, or call it 39 ha to avoid contradicting the assumptions of the main published source? |
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# [[Fraoch-eilean]] and [[Eriska]] are both inhabited but to date no population numbers are available. Should they not be added to the main list to make the total 99 rather than 97 even if we don't know the actual totals? [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 10:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== User script to detect unreliable sources == |
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Here's another anomaly. [[Eileanan Chearabhaigh]] at {{gbmapping|NF866476}} is a sort of tidal version of [[Eileanan Iasgaich]]. It's easy to see why H-Smith's definition cuts out a lot of complication. It's possible that using our definition it is, from time to time, an island of 40 ha plus, although there is probably no way of knowing without hiring a hot air balloon and hovering over it from time to time. Probably worth an article in due course, but in the absence of positive evidence I don't think it can be included as a single island of >40ha. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 17:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC) |
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It seems to separate into islands at high water (west: 31 ha; east/; 22 ha.) and join a very watery [[Benbecula]] at low water (when the combined area is about 100 ha). [[User:Finavon|Finavon]] ([[User talk:Finavon|talk]]) 20:33, 25 December 2009 (UTC) |
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I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to [[WP:URS|unreliable sources]] and [[predatory journal]]s. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the [[Wikipedia:User scripts/Most imported scripts|39th most imported script on Wikipedia]]. The idea is that it takes something like |
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*John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14. (<code><nowiki>John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.</nowiki></code>) |
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and turns it into something like |
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* John Smith "{{highlight|[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]|pink}}" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14. |
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It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{tl|cite web}}, {{tl|cite journal}} and {{tl|doi}}. |
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Thanks - I'm assuming you are, in the absence of evidence, not proposing it be added to the area list.... [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 14:20, 31 December 2009 (UTC) |
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The script is mostly based on [[WP:RSPSOURCES]], [[WP:NPPSG]] and [[WP:CITEWATCH]] and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed. |
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:Correct. It is essentially part of [[Benbecula]] and might deserve a mention there. [[User:Finavon|Finavon]] ([[User talk:Finavon|talk]]) 18:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC) |
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Do note that this is '''not a script to be mindlessly used''', and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at [[User:Headbomb/unreliable]]. Questions, comments and requests can be made at [[User talk:Headbomb/unreliable]]. |
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== Mull by any other name== |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_December_20#Category:People_from_the_Isle_of_Mull |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_December_20#Category:Mull |
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are two discussions - one completed - regarding the name of categories to do with Mull [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 06:12, 21 December 2009 (UTC) |
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== Category:Skye Villages == |
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== Project-independent quality assessments == |
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FYI: [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 25#Category:Skye_Villages]] (proposed renaming). --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#996600; cursor: not-allowed;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 17:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC) |
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A very good New Year to all - hope you have a great 2010. In tarting up the [[List of freshwater islands in Scotland|List of freshwater islands]] a few pertinent issues emerge. |
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* There are a fair number of such islands not named by the OS, even in the 20 ha range. |
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* There are about 15 mainland lochs, 10 rivers and 45 island lochs with named islands, the vast majority of the last being in the Outer Hebrides. Although the average number of islands per island loch is smaller than the mainland, freshwater islands, it turns out, are to a considerable extent an offshore island phenomenon. |
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* Lochs on offshore islands have few articles (see new [[:Category:Lochs of Scottish islands]]) and the source material is not very extensive either. There are islands with numerous large lochs barely mentioned in the island articles. |
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* The river island images are colourful and varied, and exist for a good percentage of the islands concerned. So far I have found only one photo of an offshore loch plus island (Finlaggan). Geograph has a few, but the settings are mostly low lying and the locations treeless, which may in part explain the apparent lack of interest in these complex waterscapes. |
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* [[Dunglass Island]] in the River Conon at {{gbm4ibx|NH533546}} is over 40 ha. I make it about 60 ha and a second opinion is hereby requested. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 10:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== Eilean Tioram - an inhabited island == |
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The only entry that is truly unreffed is [[Catherine-Ann MacPhee]] with whom I am unfamiliar I am sorry to say. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 10:44, 28 March 2010 (UTC) |
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Another inhabited island although this time it is a case of mistaken identity. The census lists an island of that name, but the page was a redirect to [[Castle Tioram]] - which has not been inhabited for centuries and there are no other potentially habitable structures on the island. As Google Earth confirms the islet of the same name just offshore from [[Badachro]] has a couple of houses. [[Eilean Tioram]] now a stub rather than a redirect. Luckily there are not too many links to fix. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 19:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
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==[[Clickimin]]== |
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:{{Ping|Ben MacDui}} Isn't it the same as [[Dry Island]]? '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 19:47, 20 February 2024 (UTC) |
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I don't think the Broch of Clickimin is the best article to be redirected to. There needs to be another article created for a more exact match. [[User:Bo98|Bo98]] ([[User talk:Bo98|talk]]) 11:10, 30 March 2010 (UTC) |
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::Quite right - thanks for this and now fixed. Eilean Tioram is now a redirect to Dry Island. (Looking at the links the latter was pretty much orphaned from other Scottish island articles prior to this switch.) [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 17:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Thinking aloud about forthcoming census data == |
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What would this cover - its surely just an area of Lerwick? [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 11:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC) |
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The census data for inhabited island should be produced in coming months. Including this information in an organised way will be a complex task. |
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== Sumburgh - to be or not to be == |
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1. Tables. I think the easiest way is to use the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Islands by population density|Islands by population density]] table, and add the new data there. This will create a single page for the relevant data. This could then replace the main table at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Populated Islands|Populated Islands]] with that data being archived in some easily accessible way at e.g. "Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Populated Islands early 21st Century Census Data" or similar. |
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I have just had this oddity pointed out to me. |
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The explanatory wording at "Islands by population density" and "Populated Islands" would then need to be carefully merged and the pages at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Navigation]] tweaked. |
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[[Sumburgh]] is a disambiguation page pointing to [[Sumburgh Head]] and [[Sumburgh Airport]]. It also ''doesn't'' appear on {{tl|Shetland}}. However... I'm sure there's actually a village of that name - I drove through it yesterday! - & it's definitely named on the OS map. Is this just one of our little lacunae which I can go ahead and fix up, or is there some complicated subtlety about Shetland place-naming I should be alert to? [[User:Shimgray|Shimgray]] | [[User talk:Shimgray|talk]] | 16:30, 2 April 2010 (UTC) |
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2. Main List articles. [[List of islands of Scotland]] and its subsidiary lists at [[Wikipedia:Featured topics/Islands of Scotland]] will then need updating. |
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The settlement is tiny - barely more than a hotel and a farm. I've added it to the dab page although I am not convinced it merits an article. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 11:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC) |
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3. [[Template:Infobox Scottish island]] will also need to be updated. |
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== Village names == |
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4. The nearly 100 individual articles and their infoboxes will then need to be updated. Unless someone knows of some clever automated system for infoboxes this will need to be done manually. |
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I have only just noticed that [[Stein, Isle of Skye|Stein]] was moved from [[Stein, Skye]] to [[Stein, Isle of Skye]] some time ago on the grounds that this was consistent with other villages. In fact they Skye villages are about half and half and as far as I can see, and no attempt was made to amend the relevant links. Its my intention to move it back unless there are objections. |
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5. In order to make this task less onerous a new template for the census, similar to [[Template:NRS1C]] will be required. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 13:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC) |
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==Foula population density== |
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Done. I've checked over a number of village names, project wide, and there are various anomalies but as the number of articles increase it would be good to avoid random styles being repeated. A conundrum is posed by [[Carbost]]. There are two on Skye and [[Carbost, Loch Harport, Skye]] and [[Carbost, Portree, Skye]] are clumsy but maybe helpful to those unfamiliar with the territory. "Carbost, Loch Harport" and "Carbost, Portree" would be easier to use and remember, but maybe have a less obvious meaning to the uninitiated. Its my guess that they attract pretty low levels of traffic and that the shorter names would work just was well. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 09:50, 6 June 2010 (UTC) Latter done. |
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Ban MacDui, your post caused me to revisit the 'Islands by Population Density' table, and I happened to notice that Foula and Muck, adjacent in the list and with almost identical populations, were shown with the same population density, even though Foula is more than twice the area of Muck. So I corrected it (hope I got it right!) [[User:Dhmellor|Dhmellor]] ([[User talk:Dhmellor|talk]]) 10:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:Quite right and thanks. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 18:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Shapinsay at FAR == |
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[[Shapinsay]] was nominated for a [[WP:FAR|featured article review]] in November of last year. I had dealt with the bulk of the queries by March this year. After some additional input there has been no further comment for well over a month. However, so far only one editor has been kind enough to support FA status being retained. The discussion page is at [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Shapinsay/archive1]] and any input is welcome. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 08:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Slate Islands requested move == |
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Now resurrected, alebit in truncated form. |
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Requested move to [[Slate Islands (Scotland)]]. See [[Talk:Slate Islands]]. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 08:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==Sarah's Island== |
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[[Sarah's Island]] has made an appearance. It is 0.4 ha in size , pretty non-notable and there is no sign of any WP:RS mention of the name. I have left a note on the talk page. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 08:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Slate Islands#Requested move 14 July 2024]] == |
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== Islands by population density == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Slate Islands#Requested move 14 July 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. '''<span style="background:#FFBE98;border:1px solid #FFF8E7;border-radius:18px;padding:4px">[[User:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7">98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂</span>]] • [[User talk:98Tigerius|<span style="color:#FFF8E7">[𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺]</span>]]</span>''' 22:42, 14 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Coll == |
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Just added a new table at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Islands by population density]]. As to date I am the sole author the data should be checked before use - and please note the caveats in the usage section. It would enable a density field in the infobox. Some of the information is quite surprising. Rùm is not the least densely populated island. The most densely populated should be easier to guess, although I thought it might be Bute, which it isn't. I'm amazed by the third in rank and will check this is accurate asap. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 15:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC) |
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Could we have a few eyes on the [[Coll]] article please? There is a minor edit war and discussion about an obituary, which I think is WP:UNDUE, and which another editor does not. See also [[Talk:Coll]]. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 11:29, 29 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Read all about it == |
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[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Uninhabited-Islands-Scotland-Gruinard-Mingulay/dp/1157279503/ref=sr_1_20?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282070107&sr=1-20 ''Uninhabited Islands of Scotland: Rockall, Gruinard Island, St Kilda, Scotland, Staffa, Hirta, Mingulay, Barra Head, Stac an Armin, Ailsa Craig''] by LLC. What better present for a friend than a paperback edition of - the island articles you wrote on Wikipedia for free - and yours for only £9.93. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 18:38, 17 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:Is it?!--[[User:MacRusgail|MacRusgail]] ([[User talk:MacRusgail|talk]]) 17:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::Well I can't say for sure as I don't have a copy, but I found myself purchasing something by the same publisher and in the same style on an unrelated theme not long ago and that is what it was. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 18:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Shetland maps == |
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I think these Shetland maps are a massive improvement, Ben you should be grateful that they actually highlight the island. If anything I'd suggest removing the pin locators and just having a map for them if you are worried about infobox bloating.[[User:Dr. Blofeld|'''<em style="font-family:Calisto MT;color:black"> Dr.</em>''']] [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|'''<em style="font-family:Calisto MT;color:black">Blofeld</em>''']] 18:08, 3 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:I think the infoboxes should have a standard appearance - the pin map achieves this and shows the overall location. The extra maps are good and show more detail of the island (but at differing scales). They would be better outside the infobox (provided the article is of sufficient length). [[User:Finavon|Finavon]] ([[User talk:Finavon|talk]]) 20:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC) |
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::I tend to agree with Finavon. The maps themselves are excellent and a big improvement on the earlier generation but as a simple infobox locator I prefer the existing as it highlights the area for someone unfamiliar with Scotland, and would tend to seem them as proving more detail in the geography etc. section. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 08:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:::I'd say that strikes me as a more appropriate way to use them and was my initial intent (the locator being a supplementary map, whilst a location map is used in infobox). A locator map of [[Balta, Shetland]] is pretty much useless for instance. |
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:::More sensible would be to have location maps for smaller areas (like each island group), and then using an inset to show the location in Scotland in a manner like [[:File:Shetland UK blank map.svg]], as this provides more useful locational info: The existing pushpins just show an island in the Shetlands is in the Shetlands, and where the Shetlands are relative to Scotland; a closer map and an inset would show where the island is within the Shetlands and where they are relative to the whole. Larger islands could then use a locator instead of the location as appropriate (would need recoding the template to allow that break). |
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:::This ''could'' be done by using the Shetlands political map and the locators, but would be better with relief map equivalents (someone with right skills could generate a relief map equivalent to the political one).--[[User:Nilfanion|Nilf]][[commons:User:Nilfanion|anion]] ([[User talk:Nilfanion|talk]]) 17:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Missing Garvelachs == |
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Has anyone else noticed that the Garvellachs are missing from Google maps, and from the satellite picture? |
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There's sort of a smudge on the satellite image, but if you zoom in there's no detail, though neighbouring islands are clear. Nor is there a message saying that no image is available at this resolution. |
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Should something be done about this? |
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[[User:Kognos|Kognos]] ([[User talk:Kognos|talk]]) 09:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the "heads up", although I generally use the [[Ordnance Survey]] maps myself and I fear that in any case we carry little weight with Mr. Google. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 18:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC) |
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==WikiProject cleanup listing == |
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I have created together with [[User:Smallman12q|Smallman12q]] a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for [[User:WolterBot|WolterBot]] and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of [[:Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions]]). See [[User:Svick/WikiProject cleanup listing|the tool's wiki page]], [http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListing.php?project=Scottish_Islands this project's listing in one big table] or [http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingByCat.php?project=Scottish_Islands by categories] and [http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/Index.php the index of WikiProjects]. [[User:Svick|Svick]] ([[User talk:Svick|talk]]) 20:27, 7 November 2010 (UTC) |
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== Proposed village article moves == |
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Proposed move of various village articles in the Outer Hebrides- see [[Category talk:Villages in the Outer Hebrides]]. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 16:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:In a related discussion that originally began on the above date (or was it 28th?), a proposed move of [[:Category:Villages in Mull]] is located now at [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_January_5#Category:Villages in Mull]]. [[User:Simply south|Simply south]] ([[User talk:Simply south|talk]]) and their [[:Image:Xmas_tree_basic.jpg|tree]] 21:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC) |
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== Monro's Hebrides == |
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[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Monro's Hebrides|Monro's Hebrides]] is now available via the main navigation box. This has all the islands on Monro's 1549 list and attempts to identify them. There are numerous unidentified ones, and all those who speak English, Scots, Latin and Gaelic should have fun attempting to track them down. The original aim was to make it easier to identify the islands and thus lift Monro's comments and put them in articles and [[Template:Monro]] is also provided to assist with this. The larger island names are mostly straightforward, but whilst the descriptions of for example "The Pigmies Ile" and "Senta" are vivid, the modern names are hard to place. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 09:57, 6 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:No, hadn't seen those, I'll see what I can do. Some are obviously badly parsed Gaelic - 183 for example ''Naneache'' is "Eilean nan Each" without any doubt. He's just not recorded the Eilean/Innis bit for some reason. Where do you want comments? [[User:Akerbeltz|Akerbeltz]] ([[User talk:Akerbeltz|talk]]) 19:50, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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::I think you've got the gist. Anything longer could go on the talk page. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 19:58, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I've commented on a few, more next time :) This is fun [[User:Akerbeltz|Akerbeltz]] ([[User talk:Akerbeltz|talk]]) 21:14, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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== Inhabited Orkney islands == |
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The insular geography of Orkney never ceases to amaze. It is now nearly two years since the last "discovery" of an inhabited island, but I can now offer two more possibilities. |
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*Holm of Grimbister in the Bay of Firth near [[Finstown]] is an unlikely contender. It does not have its own article, is not listed by the Census and not counted by H-Smith as it is tidal and c. 20ha and even the name implies pasturage rather than inhabitation. However, step forward Mark Jones, Tory Candidate per [http://www.shetland.gov.uk/elections/elections2007/scottishelections.asp SIC nominations]. There is more elsewhere on the web on Mr Jones and his working farm. Geograph also provide this and various other images. [[File:Causeway to the Holm of Grimbister - geograph.org.uk - 1312791.jpg|75px|right]] |
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* Inner Holm in Stromness harbour is similarly linked to Mainland by a causeway and clearly the location of a des res- although it may be a holiday home. [[File:Outer and Inner Holm - geograph.org.uk - 1361996.jpg|75px|right]] |
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[[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 12:19, 19 June 2011 (UTC) |
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== Scottish Gaelic task force == |
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See new [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland/Scottish Gaelic task force|Scottish Gaelic task force]]. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 10:33, 6 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== Origins of the Ui Imair and Earls of Orkney == |
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I've dropped an essay into [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Origins of the Uí Ímair and the Earls of Orkney]] and comments/edits are more than welcome. Some of the reasons it is not (yet) an article are explained on the talk page - I also think it needs some input from those much more familiar with the relevant history than I am. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 15:56, 21 January 2012 (UTC) |
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== GRO Template == |
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The much used ''Occasional Paper No 10: Statistics for Inhabited Islands'' was moved to a new page by the General Register Office for Scotland a while ago and is generating dead links. [[Template:GRO10]] is now available as a quick fix. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 18:52, 9 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== "Inhabited" and red-linked in Loch Sween == |
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I doubt [[Eilean Loain]] is permanently inhabited although [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jetty,_Eilean_Loain_-_geograph.org.uk_-_453012.jpg this image] is pretty convincing evidence for a summer retreat of some kind. Painting [http://www.mynewpaintings.com/2011_08_01_archive.html here] looks cute, but not too many ghits on an initial trawl. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 08:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:Curious. Haswell-Smith (p. 30) seems to think it is inhabited too. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 18:26, 16 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== Contin Island == |
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[[User:Vclaw|Vclaw]] has unearthed this freshwater island at {{gbm4ibx|NH460557}}. It is c. 20 ha in size, but more interestingly if the OS is correct, it is probably inhabited. No images on Geograph and none that I can see on Commons. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 08:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC) |
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:[[Contin Island]]. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 11:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC) |
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== Fuaigh Mòr == |
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Please see recent edits at [[Fuaigh Mòr]] + my talk page comment. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 12:40, 17 November 2012 (UTC) |
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==Corry, Highland== |
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[[File:Farm-Fresh eye.png|15px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[Talk:Corry, Highland#Corriechatachan]]. {{#if:|{{{more}}}}} <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-- [[User:Trevj#top|Trevj]]</span> ([[User talk:Trevj#top|talk]]) 08:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC){{z48}} |
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== Scarp parliament == |
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An editor questioned the workings of this at the talk page of [[Scarp, Scotland|Scarp]]. Its existence wasn't cited and I can see no sign of a reference to this parliament in Haswell-Smith, Murray (1966) or Thompson (1968) and nor are there any ghits. I have removed reference to it for the time being. Any information gratefully received. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 08:14, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== Proposed template deletions == |
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[[Template:Parliament of Scotland former constituency infobox]], [[Template:Infobox Scotland council area]] and [[Template:Infobox Scottish island]] have been proposed for deletion. See [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 July 28]]. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 18:30, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:Infobox Scottish island is still under discussion. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 19:26, 6 September 2013 (UTC) |
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::Voted to keep it. Ridiculous to delete it. Highly useful, and also has some essential parameters not in island box.--[[User:MacRusgail|MacRùsgail]] ([[User talk:MacRusgail|talk]]) 20:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC) |
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== Census results == |
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The statistics from the 2011 census are now available as a pdf at - [http://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/en/censusresults/bulletin.html Statistical Bulletin: 2011 Census: First Results on Population and Household Estimates for Scotland - Release 1C (Part Two)]. |
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I have created [[Template:NRS1C]] as a successor to [[Template:GRO10]] to use as a reference. See also BBC report [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23711202 "Scotland's 2011 census: Island living on the rise"]. |
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The tasks are: |
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* create revised population table at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Populated Islands]] |
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* create revised table at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Islands by population density]] |
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* amend lead to [[List of islands of Scotland]] - might be better to create new section on inhabited islands after the lead? |
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* amend the island infoboxes and articles. |
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Any assistance gratefully received - especially with the third once the new table is done. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 09:30, 17 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Quite a few interesting changes - three new inhabited islands and several islands that did not have residents on 2011 census day but are apparently classified as "inhabited" for official purposes. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 09:52, 17 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:I am working on the 4 red links that the census has created and I can't find any a "meaning" for Eilean dà Mhèinn. Island of the mine? Translations and references gratefully received. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 19:25, 6 September 2013 (UTC) |
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::Two Mine Island or Island of Two Mines assuming the spelling is correct. I'm not watching many articles on the English wiki anymore, Ben, but you can always ask on my talk page if you need help with Gaelic. [[User:Akerbeltz|Akerbeltz]] ([[User talk:Akerbeltz|talk]]) 20:05, 10 September 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Go raibh maith agat. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 09:35, 11 September 2013 (UTC) |
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== Please help get Scottish Islands ready for the start of the Wiki Loves Monuments competition on 1st September == |
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In September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition [http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org/ Wiki Loves Monuments]. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed buildings of significant importance (category A), as recorded by [[Historic Scotland]]. The main external website for competitors can be found [http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk here], and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people? |
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In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible buildings are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at [[Listed buildings in the United Kingdom]] you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the link to [[Listed buildings in Scotland]], you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the [[Commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom/planning/lists|WLM planning table]]. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented? |
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Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by Historic Scotland. These use pre formatted templates (eg [[Template:HS listed building header|NS header]]) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international [[Commons:Commons:Monuments database|Monuments Database]]. |
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The data still needs the attention of local editors: |
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*The "title" may need wikilinking to a suitable article name (whether we currently have that article or not). If there are several buildings in one street all of the wikilinks point at an article about the street; however each entry has a separate line in the list. |
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*The "location" column looks and sorts better if just the parish or town is included (& wikilinked). |
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*The "date completed" column sometimes has eg "C19" for 19th century, and "C1850" for c. 1850 when the date is uncertain - these need to be corrected manually. |
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*The "grid ref & lat & long" (which is occasionally missing) may be given to 8 characters — only 6 (grid ref) or 5 (lat & long) are really needed. |
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*Clicking on the "list entry number" should take you to the data sheet for that entry on the Historic Scotland database which can be checked if needed for details. |
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*The image column should have a picture added if we already have a suitable image on Commons. ('''N.B.''' if you are going to be taking photos yourself for inclusion in the competition don't upload them until September) |
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*References may be added according to normal WP practice. |
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For further information, please see [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013_in_the_United_Kingdom Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom. ] |
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If you have any queries, please post them not below but on the [[Commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom/Organizers' help desk|Organizers' help page]] on Commons. |
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Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. '''The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August. |
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--[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] ([[User talk:MichaelMaggs|talk]]) 17:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC) |
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== ScotWiki Mailing List == |
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Thought this might be of interest: Wikimedia UK have launched a ScotWiki mailing list to help encourage more Wikimedia events in Scotland and hopefully to establish greater contact between Wikimedians throughout the country. You can [http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/scotwiki sign up here] - any/everybody is welcome to join! The goal is to spread the word about Wikimedia events or projects in Scotland; you can also promote or organise your own, or join in general discussion - the usual mailing list stuff! [[User:ACrockford|ACrockford]] ([[User talk:ACrockford|talk]]) 18:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC) |
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== Three little stubs needing improvement == |
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After stub-sorting current headliner [[Erraid Davies]] and doing a bit of work on her article, I felt inspired to create [[Delting]] (as "[[Delting]] Dolphins Swimming Club" got a mention and was a red link), and from that I went on to create [[Voe, Shetland]] and [[Voe, Northmavine]], to disambiguate the two "Voes" at [[List_of_United_Kingdom_locations:_V#Vo]] and add them to the dab page at [[Voe]] (as one does, when there are more important jobs one ought to be getting on with!) But I'm no local expert, so I hope that someone more knowledgeable about Shetland will build them a bit further. (Well, the minor Voe seems from the map to be a single house, so there may not be a lot to say about it...!) Over to you lot. I'm not even sure I've named them appropriately, but it's better than just two redlinked "Voe"s. [[User:PamD|<span style="color: green">'''''Pam'''''</span>]][[User talk:PamD|<span style="color: brown">'''''D'''''</span>]] 18:12, 29 July 2014 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for this. Delting was a serious omission, and the larger Voe is clearly a genuine settlement. I wouldn't have bothered with the second one myself - its clearly tiny - but no matter. The great machine has room to absorb it! [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 17:26, 30 July 2014 (UTC) |
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== 3000 up == |
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The 3,000th article assessed by this project was [[Finn-men]] created by [[User:Jamesx12345]], so many thanks to him and indeed everyone involved in creating and assessing these articles. [[User:Ben MacDui|<font color="#6495ED">Ben</font>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<font color="#C154C1">Mac</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<font color="#228B22">Dui</font>]] 20:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC) |
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== [[Constitutional status of Orkney, Shetland and the Western Isles]] == |
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I've created an article on [[Constitutional status of Orkney, Shetland and the Western Isles]]. Although clearly it will talk about what's going on now, It could also do with some historical relevance. |
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[[User:JASpencer|JASpencer]] ([[User talk:JASpencer|talk]]) 20:43, 15 September 2014 (UTC) |
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== Comment on the WikiProject X proposal == |
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Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please '''[[meta:Grants:IEG/WikiProject X|review the proposal here]]''' and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my [[User talk:Harej|talk page]]. Thank you for your time! <small>(Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.)</small> [[User:Harej|Harej]] ([[User talk:Harej|talk]]) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC) |
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== Stoorworm etymology dispute feedback == |
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Before a DYK appears that states "Did you know that the [[Stoor worm]] of Orkney derives its name from Old Norse ''Storðar-gandr'', a kenning for the [[Midgard Serpent]]..." I am advocating getting this info pulled from the article. Please leave your considered input at [[Talk:Stoor worm#Stoorworm etymology dispute feedback]]. The reliability, due weight, etc. of this info has been a matter of ongoing dispute, and I apologize for the messy talk page there.--[[User:Kiyoweap|Kiyoweap]] ([[User talk:Kiyoweap|talk]]) 14:06, 14 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== Grim again - another inhabited islet? == |
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[[File:Seana Bhaile, Griomasaigh - geograph.org.uk - 1523355.jpg|thumb]] |
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It is now about 18 months since the last find but there are, it seems, a few more tiddlers out there. I came across a University of Notts PhD thesis that, on page 70, has an aerial photo in which the author contrasts "a modern intertidal island dwelling on Grimsay" with two nearby crannogs. He describes it as NE of Loch Hornary, although it is NW of there. It is pretty much clear from the picture that there is a substantial house on a tidal islet connected to the 'mainland' by a causeway. Of course we can't be sure it is permanantly inhabited so I'll add it to the "occasionals" at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Populated Islands]]. Two further issues arise. First of all, it is not connected to Grimsay by a causeway, but rather to [[Fraoch-Eilean]]. If the census people can't be bothered to mention that it is not likely they are going to catch up with this islet anytime soon. Secondly, it is tiny and unless someone knows a local sennachie it does not have a name. It is at {{gbm4ibx|NF858577}} and the thesis is a downloadable pdf [http://eprints.nottingham.ac.uk/13829/ here]. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 09:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC) PS I should also add that the photographic evidence notwithstanding, the OS do not seem to think it is an island. |
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PPS The aerial photo is much more suggestive of the place's original insularity but there is a photo from Geograph (bless 'em), now included above. |
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== WikiProject X is live! == |
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Hello everyone! |
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You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject X|WikiProject X]]''' is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject X|check us out]]! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you! |
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== Infoboxes, wrappers, near and far == |
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There is a discussion at [[Template talk:Infobox Scottish island]] about the format of the existing infobox that is principally about the balance that needs to be struck between consistency and the unique nature of different island chains. Co-oincidentally (so it seems) a similar topic was raised at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islands]] today. If I came across as a little grumpy, those of you who know me will understand that I find it easier to respond positively to offers of help when they are explained in advance rather than as is sometimes the case, agreed somewhere else in advance and implemented without any warning. [[User:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#6495ED">Ben</span>]] [[User talk:Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#D891EF">Mac</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Ben MacDui|<span style="color:#228B22">Dui</span>]] 17:24, 2 February 2015 (UTC) |
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== Kirkwall Ba game == |
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A persistent editor keeps changing this article saying that the changes are true but providing no source. Would a member of the project have a look at the changes and assess their verifiability please? [[User:Britmax|Britmax]] ([[User talk:Britmax|talk]]) 13:31, 22 February 2015 (UTC) |
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== [[WP:ENGVAR]] == |
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Why is the [[Lerwick]] article written in American English? --[[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 13:09, 16 January 2016 (UTC) |
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== [[List of largest island-based towns in Scotland]] == |
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Could someone knowledgeable help out with this? The ranking for population is clearly missing some settlements, but I have not yet worked out how to extract such information from the Scottish census pages. [[User:Espresso Addict|Espresso Addict]] <small>([[User talk:Espresso Addict|talk]])</small> 06:03, 22 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Disambiguation guideline == |
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There is discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Scotland]] regarding [[WP:UKPLACE]] for those who are interested, in particular {{ping|Mutt Lunker}} {{ping|Deskford}} who have had recent involvement in this. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Red">talk</span>]]) 14:42, 27 October 2018 (UTC) |
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== Small Isles == |
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It seems that the islands everyone knows as the Small Isles (Canna, Rùm, Eigg and Muck) are not labelled as such on OS maps (I don't have sheet 39 to be quite sure) but some tiny islands off Jura are.[http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=154420&y=668362&z=126&sv=154420,668362&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&dn=530&ax=154420&ay=668362&lm=0] As you might expect, this has given rise to discussion at [[WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 15#Category:Small Isles, Inner Hebrides]]. [[User:Thincat|Thincat]] ([[User talk:Thincat|talk]]) 11:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC) |
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== Noss == |
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There's a proposal to rename [[Noss]] to [[Isle of Noss]]. Clearly nobody thought to notify this project. Please comment at [[Talk:Noss]] --[[User:Deskford|Deskford]] ([[User talk:Deskford|talk]]) 21:01, 29 December 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{Ping|Deskford}} It is listed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Article alerts]] and [[User:Crouch, Swale/Island names]]. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Red">talk</span>]]) 21:16, 29 December 2018 (UTC) |
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== Glims Holm or Glimps Holm? == |
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Expert input needed at [[Talk:Glims Holm#Requested_move_14_January_2019]]. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 05:15, 15 January 2019 (UTC) |
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== New articles == |
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I have made some drafts for some islands, see |
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* [[User:Crouch, Swale/Risga]], although there is content on the fact that the name includes the Old Norse word for island, what does the first part mean? |
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* [[User:Crouch, Swale/Small Isles, Argyll and Bute]], should this be disambiguated as [[Small Isles, Jura]] or [[Small Isles, Argyll]]? per the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 20#Category:Small Isles, Inner Hebrides]]. As far as I can see it shouldn't since it isn't on Jura (but rather is near it) and disambiguation by council area is sufficient in this case. |
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* [[User:Crouch, Swale/Soyea Island]], although it seems "sheep island" is what most sources say the name means, [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=oZgxAQAAIAAJ&q=Soyea+Island&dq=Soyea+Island&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwijqLTAxYDgAhVcRhUIHbgoAHM4FBDoAQg_MAU sow or pig island] or [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tmoGAQAAIAAJ&q=Soyea+Island&dq=Soyea+Island&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD8IPuxYDgAhUOShUIHepYBeU4HhDoAQgyMAI sea island]. Although there was no consensus at [[Talk:Handa, Scotland#Requested move 16 September 2018]] to use tautological names, it does seem in both cases this is common use. |
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* [[Draft:Guillamon Island]], and source for its name (presumably there isn't since a source I have found says the origin is "obscure"). |
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* [[Draft:Shieldaig Island]], its presumably uninhabited but we need a source for that. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 04:33, 22 January 2019 (UTC) |
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User script to detect unreliable sources
[edit]I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)
and turns it into something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Project-independent quality assessments
[edit]Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.
No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.
However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:55, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
FAR for Shapinsay
[edit]I have nominated Shapinsay for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 17:04, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Eilean Tioram - an inhabited island
[edit]Another inhabited island although this time it is a case of mistaken identity. The census lists an island of that name, but the page was a redirect to Castle Tioram - which has not been inhabited for centuries and there are no other potentially habitable structures on the island. As Google Earth confirms the islet of the same name just offshore from Badachro has a couple of houses. Eilean Tioram now a stub rather than a redirect. Luckily there are not too many links to fix. Ben MacDui 19:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Ben MacDui: Isn't it the same as Dry Island? Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Quite right - thanks for this and now fixed. Eilean Tioram is now a redirect to Dry Island. (Looking at the links the latter was pretty much orphaned from other Scottish island articles prior to this switch.) Ben MacDui 17:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Thinking aloud about forthcoming census data
[edit]The census data for inhabited island should be produced in coming months. Including this information in an organised way will be a complex task.
1. Tables. I think the easiest way is to use the Islands by population density table, and add the new data there. This will create a single page for the relevant data. This could then replace the main table at Populated Islands with that data being archived in some easily accessible way at e.g. "Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Populated Islands early 21st Century Census Data" or similar.
The explanatory wording at "Islands by population density" and "Populated Islands" would then need to be carefully merged and the pages at Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Navigation tweaked.
2. Main List articles. List of islands of Scotland and its subsidiary lists at Wikipedia:Featured topics/Islands of Scotland will then need updating.
3. Template:Infobox Scottish island will also need to be updated.
4. The nearly 100 individual articles and their infoboxes will then need to be updated. Unless someone knows of some clever automated system for infoboxes this will need to be done manually.
5. In order to make this task less onerous a new template for the census, similar to Template:NRS1C will be required. Ben MacDui 13:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Foula population density
[edit]Ban MacDui, your post caused me to revisit the 'Islands by Population Density' table, and I happened to notice that Foula and Muck, adjacent in the list and with almost identical populations, were shown with the same population density, even though Foula is more than twice the area of Muck. So I corrected it (hope I got it right!) Dhmellor (talk) 10:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Quite right and thanks. Ben MacDui 18:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Shapinsay at FAR
[edit]Shapinsay was nominated for a featured article review in November of last year. I had dealt with the bulk of the queries by March this year. After some additional input there has been no further comment for well over a month. However, so far only one editor has been kind enough to support FA status being retained. The discussion page is at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Shapinsay/archive1 and any input is welcome. Ben MacDui 08:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Slate Islands requested move
[edit]Requested move to Slate Islands (Scotland). See Talk:Slate Islands. Ben MacDui 08:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Slate Islands#Requested move 14 July 2024
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Slate Islands#Requested move 14 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 22:42, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
Coll
[edit]Could we have a few eyes on the Coll article please? There is a minor edit war and discussion about an obituary, which I think is WP:UNDUE, and which another editor does not. See also Talk:Coll. Ben MacDui 11:29, 29 September 2024 (UTC)