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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page. '' |
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The result was '''merge''' to [[Jersey Youth Reform Team]]. [[User:Petros471|Petros471]] 20:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC) |
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===[[Luke Small]]=== |
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This biographical article appears to fail [[WP:BIO]] because while there is one newsworthy event to be covered, there is not a second. There are [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Luke+Small%22+Jersey&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&pwst=1&start=110&sa=N 84 unique search engine hits] for the subject's name and "Jersey". In addition, this is a potential vanity article based on username of the creator and was deprodded without alteration. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 00:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
This biographical article appears to fail [[WP:BIO]] because while there is one newsworthy event to be covered, there is not a second. There are [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Luke+Small%22+Jersey&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&pwst=1&start=110&sa=N 84 unique search engine hits] for the subject's name and "Jersey". In addition, this is a potential vanity article based on username of the creator and was deprodded without alteration. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 00:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' into [[Gay rights in Britain]]. A notable event but a non-notable person. --[[User:Wafulz|Wafulz]] 00:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Merge''' into [[Gay rights in Britain]]. A notable event but a non-notable person. --[[User:Wafulz|Wafulz]] 00:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' into [[Jersey Youth Reform Team]], the organization which he is executive director of.--[[User:Tree Biting Conspiracy|< |
*'''Merge''' into [[Jersey Youth Reform Team]], the organization which he is executive director of.--[[User:Tree Biting Conspiracy|<b style="background:red; color:#FFFF00;">TBC</b>]][[User talk:Tree Biting Conspiracy|<span style="color:red; font-size:smaller;">TaLk?!?</span>]] 01:21, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' I would withdraw this nom subject to a merge and redirect, but I really can't at this point for two reasons: we need to determine where to redirect the title after merges and I wonder if there won't be even other places where information from this article should go. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 01:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' I would withdraw this nom subject to a merge and redirect, but I really can't at this point for two reasons: we need to determine where to redirect the title after merges and I wonder if there won't be even other places where information from this article should go. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 01:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' The article is unbearably vague about what this fellow actually did. The European Court agreed to hear his case (about what? the article says nothing) but the case was settled before the Court could hear it. Then we learn he continued to work for "reform" and "the rights of young people" (what does that even mean?) in his home area. What establishes notability from that sequence of facts? All unsourced. [[User:Allon Fambrizzi|Allon Fambrizzi]] 05:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Allon Fambrizzi |
*'''Delete''' The article is unbearably vague about what this fellow actually did. The European Court agreed to hear his case (about what? the article says nothing) but the case was settled before the Court could hear it. Then we learn he continued to work for "reform" and "the rights of young people" (what does that even mean?) in his home area. What establishes notability from that sequence of facts? All unsourced. [[User:Allon Fambrizzi|Allon Fambrizzi]] 05:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Allon Fambrizzi |
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**'''Comment'''. The search engine results above will convince you that there is verifiable subject matter that is in need of documentation in at least the two articles mentioned above. I agree that this article is terribly written as is, though. This is where the old AfD dilemma comes in about whether this should be about what has been written in the article or what is readily available. I personally think neither of those options is always the right answer. In this case, I do think looking at what is available by Internet search makes sense. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 06:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
**'''Comment'''. The search engine results above will convince you that there is verifiable subject matter that is in need of documentation in at least the two articles mentioned above. I agree that this article is terribly written as is, though. This is where the old AfD dilemma comes in about whether this should be about what has been written in the article or what is readily available. I personally think neither of those options is always the right answer. In this case, I do think looking at what is available by Internet search makes sense. [[User:Erechtheus|Erechtheus]] 06:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Merge''' since with 49 unique Googles I'd say that his independent notability is questionable at best. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> 11:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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* '''Comment''' and '''Keep''': After looking at the article and the google hits the nominator provided I added some information, sources, ect. I'll see what else I can do when I get back this afternoon. This seems to be a notable person and event, there are verifiable sources, and while his main work so far seems to have to do with getting the law changed, he has founded an organization to promote youth rights and will probably eventually be mentioned for future works. I see no reason to delete. ~ [[User:ONUnicorn|ONUnicorn]] <small>([[User talk:ONUnicorn|Talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/ONUnicorn|Contribs]])</small> 17:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''', not notable enough on its own, but shouldn't be deleted.[[User:Ramsquire|Ramsquire]] 19:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''', per the [[WP:Pokémon test|Pokémon Test]]. -- [[User:PinkDeoxys|~PinkDeoxys~]] 19:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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**'''Comment''', note that the Pokemon test is only an essay, and not a guideline or a policy.--[[User:Tree Biting Conspiracy|<b style="background:red; color:#FFFF00;">TBC</b>]][[User talk:Tree Biting Conspiracy|<span style="color:red; font-size:smaller;">TaLk?!?</span>]] 22:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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I'm from Jersey. This young man did something most people wouldn't consider. The ages of consent were unequal - young people were too scared to voice the issue themselves, so he did. |
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He deserves this page as much as anyone else does. |
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Luke, <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:81.20.186.29|81.20.186.29]] ([[User talk:81.20.186.29|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/81.20.186.29|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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*'''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Markovich292|Markovich292]] 05:56, 17 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' into [[Jersey Youth Reform Team]] and/or [[Gay rights in the United Kingdom]]; fails [[WP:BIO]]. '''[[User:Tewfik|<span style="color:#22AA00;">Tewfik</span>]]'''[[User Talk:Tewfik|<sup style="color:#888888;">Talk</sup>]] 18:27, 18 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Merge''' into [[Jersey Youth Reform Team]]. [[User:Bridgeplayer|Bridgeplayer]] 22:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC) |
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