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== Mr. T? == |
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== 7th top ten hit - recheck facts == |
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Mr. T wasn't the carriage driver, and may not even have been in the music video at all. Since this article is starred as a quality article, I'll leave that part alone, but just know that that tidbit is not evident. [[Special:Contributions/72.174.131.123|72.174.131.123]] ([[User talk:72.174.131.123|talk]]) 22:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Jackson was one shy of the Beatles, who charted 9 top 10 hits in 1964. Six number ones, plus Please Please Me, Do you wanna know a Secret, and Twist and Shout. dnsla23 22:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dnsla|Dnsla]] ([[User talk:Dnsla|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dnsla|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->dnsla23 18:36, 27 July 2014 (UTC) |
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== Need more clarity on the chronology of their collaborations == |
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== Stanton vs. Giraldi == |
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In this passage: |
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Can we discuss this disagreement about whether it's Harry Dean Stanton or Bob Giraldi appearing in the video? The first person to make this change added a primary source (the YouTube video) to back up their claim. I removed it and added two secondary sources (AV Club article and a book by a respected Beatles author) that state it is Stanton in the video. My changes were reverted and a DVD was added as the source for Giraldi. Is this another primary source (just watching the video) or is there something on the DVD actually stating that it is Giraldi? My position is that reliable secondary sources should trump our ability to visually identify who is in the video, which amounts to [[WP:OR]]. You say it is "obviously" Giraldi, but I think it is Stanton. In the end, secondary sources should trump our personal opinions. --[[User:Laser_brain|<font color="purple">'''Laser brain'''</font >]] [[User_talk:Laser_brain|<font color="purple">(talk)</font >]] 14:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC) |
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"Produced by George Martin, it was recorded during production of McCartney's 1982 Tug of War album, about a year before the release of "The Girl Is Mine", the pair's first duet from Jackson's album Thriller (1982)." |
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:In the commentary for the "Say Say Say" music video on ''[[The McCartney Years]]'' DVD, at the 3:04 mark McCartney says "that's Bob Giraldi making a little Hitchcock-like cameo performance." Unfortunately, I didn't see anything in the cite AV media template that references the specific content in the DVD being cited. And for comparison's sake, here's a link to a photo of Bob Giraldi circa 1983.[http://davidmcgough.com/photos/thumbs/Bob%20Giraldi,%20Barry%20Manilow%201983,%20NY.jpg] [[User:Piriczki|Piriczki]] ([[User talk:Piriczki|talk]]) 16:29, 5 May 2015 (UTC) |
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"The pair's first duet" is too confusing. If the rest of the article is correct, "Say Say Say"was the pair's first duet, and since they only had one duet on "Thriller" it's also confusing in that part of the context. I came here to research so I don't want to edit it since I don't know all the facts, but the way it is is at best misleading. [[User:Kevintimba|Kevintimba]] ([[User talk:Kevintimba|talk]]) 05:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:: OK, thanks. In that case, it's likely that the sources I presented were repeating misinformation. --[[User:Laser_brain|<font color="purple">'''Laser brain'''</font >]] [[User_talk:Laser_brain|<font color="purple">(talk)</font >]] 16:33, 5 May 2015 (UTC) |
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== First video of dialogue and a storyline? == |
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Saw there was no source for the claim that the music video was the first music video, for dialogue and storyline. Anyone know if there is a source for this claim? And if so shouldn't it be erased or at least tagged for {{citation needed}} ? |
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[[User:EagleTech199|EagleTech199]] ([[User talk:EagleTech199|talk]]) 05:50, 21 November 2015 (UTC) |
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== External links modified == |
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== Tuxedo change == |
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Just a small quip, but I noticed that the following line regarding the music video seems misleading: |
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"When law-enforcement officers appear at the back of the venue, Mac quickly starts a small fire onstage and Linda hollers "FIRE!", emptying the venue and allowing the group to escape via backstage (yet somehow finding time to change into tuxedoes first)." |
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If one looks clearly, it is clear that Mac and Jack have already changed into tuxedos before starting the fire, as shown when they peek around the side of the stage. Mac (McCartney) does presumably throw a costume on top of his tuxedo before starting the fire, but Jack (Jackson) is obviously in a tuxedo as he calls out "Fire!" Given this, the text written above seems false. Therefore, it seems that we can conclude Jack didn't change at all after the fire, and Mac simply took off the costume and donned the dinner jacket. None of this seems notable enough to merit mentioning in the article, so I suggest that the line is altered, perhaps to the following, unless somebody else has a better idea: |
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"When law-enforcement officers appear at the back of the venue, Mac starts a small fire onstage and Linda hollers "FIRE!", emptying the venue and allowing the group to escape via backstage." |
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— <b style="font-family: Ubuntu;">[[User:Tuxipedia|<span style="color: black;">Tuxipεdia</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuxipedia|<span style="color:darkgreen;">talk</span>]])</sup></b> 22:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC) |
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Mr. T?
[edit]Mr. T wasn't the carriage driver, and may not even have been in the music video at all. Since this article is starred as a quality article, I'll leave that part alone, but just know that that tidbit is not evident. 72.174.131.123 (talk) 22:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Need more clarity on the chronology of their collaborations
[edit]In this passage:
"Produced by George Martin, it was recorded during production of McCartney's 1982 Tug of War album, about a year before the release of "The Girl Is Mine", the pair's first duet from Jackson's album Thriller (1982)."
"The pair's first duet" is too confusing. If the rest of the article is correct, "Say Say Say"was the pair's first duet, and since they only had one duet on "Thriller" it's also confusing in that part of the context. I came here to research so I don't want to edit it since I don't know all the facts, but the way it is is at best misleading. Kevintimba (talk) 05:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
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