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Mr. T?

Mr. T wasn't the carriage driver, and may not even have been in the music video at all. Since this article is starred as a quality article, I'll leave that part alone, but just know that that tidbit is not evident. 72.174.131.123 (talk) 22:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Need more clarity on the chronology of their collaborations

In this passage:

"Produced by George Martin, it was recorded during production of McCartney's 1982 Tug of War album, about a year before the release of "The Girl Is Mine", the pair's first duet from Jackson's album Thriller (1982)."

"The pair's first duet" is too confusing. If the rest of the article is correct, "Say Say Say"was the pair's first duet, and since they only had one duet on "Thriller" it's also confusing in that part of the context. I came here to research so I don't want to edit it since I don't know all the facts, but the way it is is at best misleading. Kevintimba (talk) 05:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Credits ==
+== Mr. T? ==
+Mr. T wasn't the carriage driver, and may not even have been in the music video at all. Since this article is starred as a quality article, I'll leave that part alone, but just know that that tidbit is not evident. [[Special:Contributions/72.174.131.123|72.174.131.123]] ([[User talk:72.174.131.123|talk]]) 22:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
-I was wondering if anyone had any input on the credits on this song.  I was mainly wondering if Ringo Starr played drums.
+== Need more clarity on the chronology of their collaborations ==
-== Info ==
+In this passage:
-*http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fzzwW8913G0C&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=%22Say+Say+Say%22&source=bl&ots=q5UXFhR3gP&sig=1gwAQwSSdRj2YGx7jmrhzbgDhKo&hl=en&ei=GZe-SZCvJtWHsAaGkeSkCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result
-*http://www.boston.com/ae/music/gallery/2008mtv_music_videos?pg=6
+"Produced by George Martin, it was recorded during production of McCartney's 1982 Tug of War album, about a year before the release of "The Girl Is Mine", the pair's first duet from Jackson's album Thriller (1982)."
-Update, I searched Google books and couldn't find anything else. Next I'll do Google news. — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 14:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
-:Ok, cheers. '''[[User:Pyrrhus16|<font color="black">Pyrrhus</font>]]'''[[User talk:Pyrrhus16|<font color="#FF0000">16</font>]]''' 14:38, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
+"The pair's first duet" is too confusing. If the rest of the article is correct, "Say Say Say"was the pair's first duet, and since they only had one duet on "Thriller" it's also confusing in that part of the context. I came here to research so I don't want to edit it since I don't know all the facts, but the way it is is at best misleading. [[User:Kevintimba|Kevintimba]] ([[User talk:Kevintimba|talk]]) 05:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
-*Worse lyrics in a song, for the year 1983. Source = Anthony Violanti. "Schlock: An Unusually Confused and Nasal Dylan". (August 18, 1996). ''The Buffalo News''.
-*http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20037860_2,00.html
-*"Aside from 'Say Say Say' and 'The Man', both co-written and performed with Michael Jackson, McCartney wastes the rest of the album on bathos and whimsy". Source = "Paul McCartney's New Album Is Just 'Embarrassing Fluff'". (January 15, 1983). ''Lexington Herald-Leader''.
-*"[McCartney] redeemed himself somewhat with the 1983 success of the spunky 'Say Say Say'-another duet with Jackson-but plunged back into wimpdom with '[[No More Lonely Nights]]'". Source = Paul Grein. (January 3, 1988). "Hits That Hurt In Some Cases, That Top 10 Smash Can Smash an Artist's Image". ''Los Angeles Times''.
-**OK, add these in, if they aren't already, then we are [[WP:GAN|ready to go]]. :) — [[User:Realist2|<span style="color:#4173E4">'''''R'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Realist2|<span style="color:#D80B0B"><sup>'''''2'''''</sup></span>]] 11:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
-== Conflicting information in The Girl Is Mine article ==
-The year before [recording The Girl is Mine], the duo had '''recorded''' "Say Say Say" and "The Man" for McCartney's fifth solo album, Pipes of Peace (1983).
-From [[The Girl Is Mine]] article with added emphasis. But this article says:
-Prior to '''recording''' "Say Say Say", McCartney had collaborated with Jackson on "The Girl Is Mine", for Jackson's Thriller album. In return, Jackson agreed to record "Say Say Say" for McCartney's Pipes of Peace.
-So both articles claim to be the second duet in terms of when they were recorded. I have no idea which is right. If The Girl is Mine article is right than the Girl Is Mine was recorded second but released first. [[User:Gripdamage|Gripdamage]] ([[User talk:Gripdamage|talk]]) 15:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
-:Thanks, I've reworded the section of this article. '''[[User:Pyrrhus16|<font color="black">Pyrrhus</font>]]'''[[User talk:Pyrrhus16|<font color="#FF0000">16</font>]]''' 16:34, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
-::No, it's still wrong - it's saying that they'd already worked on The Girl is Mine. It seems however that Say Say Say was recorded Summer 1981 and The Girl is Mine around April 1982. So despite it being released a year afterwards, Say Say Say was recorded first. I can't change the info as it stands however since there are two refs next to it.--[[User:Tuzapicabit|Tuzapicabit]] ([[User talk:Tuzapicabit|talk]]) 00:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
-== Too violent ==
-"Upon its release, the National Coalition of Television Violence classified the music video as too violent to be aired." Really? --[[User:Andreasegde|andreasegde]] ([[User talk:Andreasegde|talk]]) 15:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
-:Yes, it might have been to do with the arm wrestle. :) '''[[User:Pyrrhus16|<font color="black">Pyrrhus</font>]]'''[[User talk:Pyrrhus16|<font color="#FF0000">16</font>]]''' 15:22, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
-::There's no violence in the video. I guess they don't know that arm wrestling is a sport, not a crime. [[User:Grundle2600|Grundle2600]] ([[User talk:Grundle2600|talk]]) 14:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
-:Thats real weird, Say Say Say has no violence, just a comical energy drink scene.
-[[User:Nikhil121|Nikhil121]] ([[User talk:Nikhil121|talk]]) 9:28, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
-== cameo by some big black dude? ==
-I'm new to (editing) Wikipedia, but that certainly doesnt look right. I can get rid of that, right? [[User:Stevenferdin|Stevenferdin]] ([[User talk:Stevenferdin|talk]]) 08:29, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
-== Location of music video filming ==
-I changed the music video filming location from Los Olivos, California to Los Alamos, California.  I lived in Los Alamos at the time and have first-hand knowledge that it was filmed there.  Los Olivos is a nearby town but was not the primary filming location.  Filming locations in Los Alamos included the Union Hotel and the former train depot (see, for example, the Union Hotel's official website, www.unionhotelvictorianmansion.com, as well as numerous tourism sites which come up in a Google search).
-[[User:Teddy foucault|Teddy foucault]] ([[User talk:Teddy foucault|talk]]) 01:25, 8 August 2011 (UTC)Teddy_foucault
-== cameo in say say say video ==
-Who is the big guy micheal arm wrestles in the say say say video???  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.44.147.109|74.44.147.109]] ([[User talk:74.44.147.109|talk]]) 07:07, 10 November 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-== 7th top ten hit - recheck facts ==
-Jackson was one shy of the Beatles, who charted 8 top 10 hits in 1964.  Six number ones, plus Please Please Me and Twist and Shout.  dnsla23 22:19, 8 August 2013 (UTC)  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Dnsla|Dnsla]] ([[User talk:Dnsla|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dnsla|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->