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I am going to remove the redlinks and just put the article into this one to reduce the uselessness factor from 10 to about 4 |
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The onyl redeeming aspect of this page is the tall tale aspect, otherwise it's just a list. It herefore oughn't have random things not pertinent to this included e.g; [[shmoo]]s. --[[User:Belg4mit|Belg4mit]] 02:10, 23 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Until someone can come up with some evidence that the latter is related to the former, I'm gonna separate these two. No accounts I've read of the cactus cat make any mention of the features attributed to the gyascutus, including the first reference linked in the article. <small> so sayeth</small> [[User:Lucky_number_49|Lucky Number 49]] <sup> [[User talk:Lucky number 49|Yell at me!]]</sup> 00:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Are we really doing this? Using grade school words due to the belief that too many people would not be able to grasp words like biped, quadruped, and miscellaneous? Look if we start to replace every word that isn't under a grade six reading level with another we'll surely see an even greater lack of creditability with all our articles. (Seriously, "with 2 legs" do you really think that even, "2 legged" is a bit too advance for us?!) That being said as a side note I should like to point out the spelling of Leprochaun is not a misspelling of Leprechaun; however, rather the spelling of its American variant (See [http://www.fearsomecreaturesofthelumberwoods.com . Pg.17, The Leprochaun . "Fearsome Creature of the Lumberwoods"]) |
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[[User:Tripodero|Tripodero]] [[User talk:Tripodero]] 17:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |
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This article is attracting too much uncited garbage for my tastes. I will be removing any examples that are uncited or not linked to their own articles, then going through the articles. - [[User:Mdsummermsw|Mdsummermsw]] ([[User talk:Mdsummermsw|talk]]) 18:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC) |
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I don't think the article's title and content are reasonable. Could as easily be titled "scary animals". There appears to be only 1 reference that uses the title. --[[User:Fremte|Fremte]] ([[User talk:Fremte|talk]]) 01:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC) |
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The earliest reference I can find dates back to 1939, but probably goes back further in view that the very analogous, “fearsome creatures” was around since at least 1910. There are at a minimum four literally references to this title and to boot, this term has been especially popularized by contemporary usage. Still, if you seek the more ubiquitous term the LOC designation is, “Animals Mythical, United States” or “Mythozoology of the United States” more eloquently. |
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* Cox, William T. with Latin Classifications by George B. Sudworth. Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods. (Washington, D.C.: Judd & Detweiler Inc., 1910) |
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* Tryon, Henry Harrington. Fearsome Critters. (Cornwall, NY: The Idlewild Press, 1939) |
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* Schwartz, Alvin. Kickle Snifters and Other Fearsome Critters. (Philadelphia: Lippincott, 1976) |
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* Underwood, Muriel. Fearsome Critters: Folktales from the Forest and Desert. (Chicago: Miscellaneous Graphics, 1990) |
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* Svensson, Richard. Fearsome Critters. (Sweden: self-published 2008) |
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* No, fearsome critters are not cryptids, no more than a unicorn or dragon may be termed as such. Fearsome critters were developed as ruses for newcomers to the logging camps. They are a parody of natural history and were rarely ever intended more than a practical joke. While there have been practical jokers involved in cryptids, this is seen as a perversion of crytozoology. Whereas with fearsome critters, this is seen as the point. If you are going to count fearsome critters as cryptids, you might as well count the [[Easter Bunny]] and [[Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]] too. [[User:Tripodero]] ([[User talk:Tripodero|talk]]) 5:48 AM, 21 February 2020 (UTC) |
* No, fearsome critters are not cryptids, no more than a unicorn or dragon may be termed as such. Fearsome critters were developed as ruses for newcomers to the logging camps. They are a parody of natural history and were rarely ever intended more than a practical joke. While there have been practical jokers involved in cryptids, this is seen as a perversion of crytozoology. Whereas with fearsome critters, this is seen as the point. If you are going to count fearsome critters as cryptids, you might as well count the [[Easter Bunny]] and [[Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer]] too. [[User:Tripodero]] ([[User talk:Tripodero|talk]]) 5:48 AM, 21 February 2020 (UTC) |
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Why is this critter, mentioned in the image, not in the list? [[Special:Contributions/86.90.39.63|86.90.39.63]] ([[User talk:86.90.39.63|talk]]) 18:12, 16 March 2016 (UTC) |
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* {{cite book |last=Church |first=Jill M. |editor1-last=Fee |editor1-first=Christopher R. |editor2-last=Webb |editor2-first=Jeffrey B. |title=American Myths, Legends, and Tall Tales: An encyclopedia of American folklore, Volume 1 |date=2016 |publisher=ABC-CLIO |location=Santa Barbara, Calif. |isbn=978-1-6106-9567-1 |pages=365–7 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=kXnEDAAAQBAJ&q=fearsome+critters |chapter=Fearsome critters}} |
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Leaving this source here in case editors of this page find it useful. —[[User:Sangdeboeuf|Sangdeboeuf]] ([[User talk:Sangdeboeuf|talk]]) 16:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC) |
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@[[User:IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist|IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist]], please discuss your changes here. The list is for links to critters with their own articles, like a directory to the most prominent examples. If you'd like Tree-Squeak (or other critters) mentioned, you should either [[WP:N|make sure that it meets our notability requirements]] and [[WP:YFA|create a draft of a new article]], or make a case for expanding the list. Wikipedia works on a [[WP:CONS|consensus model]]. Because your edits have been disputed, the [[WP:ONUS|onus is on you]] to convince other editors that they belong. [[User:Woodroar|Woodroar]] ([[User talk:Woodroar|talk]]) 21:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC) |
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Seconded. I noticed this when first reading the article. What's the deal? The hidbehind article has a picture from the same book which could be used. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2602:306:3615:B5C0:A14B:5E05:2626:AB21|2602:306:3615:B5C0:A14B:5E05:2626:AB21]] ([[User talk:2602:306:3615:B5C0:A14B:5E05:2626:AB21|talk]]) 03:56, 31 May 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:? [[User:IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist|IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist]] ([[User talk:IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist|talk]]) 21:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist|IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist]], what's your question? [[User:Woodroar|Woodroar]] ([[User talk:Woodroar|talk]]) 22:00, 10 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Note that every entry in the article has its own Wikipedia article. Tree Squeak does not. If you want it in this list, then [[WP:Write the article first]]. To start a draft and submit it for review, see [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]]. ~[[User:Anachronist|Anachronist]] <small>([[User talk:Anachronist|talk]])</small> 22:15, 10 December 2023 (UTC) |
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You forgot Gully Cats <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.159.213.80|86.159.213.80]] ([[User talk:86.159.213.80#top|talk]]) 19:55, 13 October 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[edit]Should this be merged with the Cryptid section? --Jehan60188 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC).
- Yes, at best this a subsection of North American cryptids Peter (talk) 12:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- No, fearsome critters are not cryptids, no more than a unicorn or dragon may be termed as such. Fearsome critters were developed as ruses for newcomers to the logging camps. They are a parody of natural history and were rarely ever intended more than a practical joke. While there have been practical jokers involved in cryptids, this is seen as a perversion of crytozoology. Whereas with fearsome critters, this is seen as the point. If you are going to count fearsome critters as cryptids, you might as well count the Easter Bunny and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer too. User:Tripodero (talk) 5:48 AM, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Church, 2016
[edit]- Church, Jill M. (2016). "Fearsome critters". In Fee, Christopher R.; Webb, Jeffrey B. (eds.). American Myths, Legends, and Tall Tales: An encyclopedia of American folklore, Volume 1. Santa Barbara, Calif.: ABC-CLIO. pp. 365–7. ISBN 978-1-6106-9567-1.
Leaving this source here in case editors of this page find it useful. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 16:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Tree-Squeak and other critters
[edit]@IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist, please discuss your changes here. The list is for links to critters with their own articles, like a directory to the most prominent examples. If you'd like Tree-Squeak (or other critters) mentioned, you should either make sure that it meets our notability requirements and create a draft of a new article, or make a case for expanding the list. Wikipedia works on a consensus model. Because your edits have been disputed, the onus is on you to convince other editors that they belong. Woodroar (talk) 21:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- ? IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist (talk) 21:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- @IsaacTheChristianCryptozoologist, what's your question? Woodroar (talk) 22:00, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note that every entry in the article has its own Wikipedia article. Tree Squeak does not. If you want it in this list, then WP:Write the article first. To start a draft and submit it for review, see Wikipedia:Articles for creation. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:15, 10 December 2023 (UTC)