Talk:Animal Farm: Difference between revisions
→Inferences: new section |
Undid revision 1249942227 by 200.68.159.195 (talk) Rv; off-topic |
||
(23 intermediate revisions by 11 users not shown) | |||
Line 15: | Line 15: | ||
|otd3date=2023-08-17|otd3oldid=1170842023 |
|otd3date=2023-08-17|otd3oldid=1170842023 |
||
}} |
}} |
||
{{WikiProject banner shell|1= |
{{WikiProject banner shell|class=B|vital=yes|1= |
||
⚫ | |||
{{Vital article|class=B|topic=Art|level=5}} |
|||
{{WikiProject |
{{WikiProject Socialism |importance=Mid}} |
||
{{WikiProject |
{{WikiProject Novels |importance=High}} |
||
⚫ | |||
}} |
}} |
||
{{British English}} |
{{British English}} |
||
Line 49: | Line 48: | ||
I wish to note that the list of stage adaptations of "Animal Farm" in this article is incomplete. The first version, adapted by [[Nelson S. Bond]] and published by [[Samuel French, Inc.]] in 1964 [https://www.amazon.com/Animal-Farm-Fable-Two-Acts/dp/0573605386 (still in print)] is still widely performed [https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-17-vl-374-story.html (example one)] [https://www.flocktheatre.org/animal-farm-2020 (example two) ] [https://www.facebook.com/events/104929599894765/ (example three)] |
I wish to note that the list of stage adaptations of "Animal Farm" in this article is incomplete. The first version, adapted by [[Nelson S. Bond]] and published by [[Samuel French, Inc.]] in 1964 [https://www.amazon.com/Animal-Farm-Fable-Two-Acts/dp/0573605386 (still in print)] is still widely performed [https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-05-17-vl-374-story.html (example one)] [https://www.flocktheatre.org/animal-farm-2020 (example two) ] [https://www.facebook.com/events/104929599894765/ (example three)] |
||
== |
== "Classic" == |
||
"George Orwell's own Nineteen Eighty-Four is a classic dystopian novel about totalitarianism." |
|||
Boxer actually represents the strong soviet working force. Not the person mentioned in this article. [[Special:Contributions/76.67.165.147|76.67.165.147]] ([[User talk:76.67.165.147|talk]]) 15:13, 27 January 2023 (UTC) |
|||
Is it ok to call something a "classic" as a factual statement in an encyclopedia? Or is it a subjective thing even in a case like "1984"? Isn't it against NPOV? I'm asking out of curiosity. [[User:Dornwald|Dornwald]] ([[User talk:Dornwald|talk]]) 00:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
|||
:That seems a bit POV and also unneeded; I've gone ahead and removed it. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 02:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
|||
== Inferences == |
|||
::Thanks [[User:Dornwald|Dornwald]] ([[User talk:Dornwald|talk]]) 02:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC) |
|||
There are several cases where the reader of Animal Farm is clearly supposed to INFER something, but the book never explicitly says it, and one gathers that the animal characters in the book never do infer it. I think this is a very important part of Orwell's message: a lot of political lying is tacitly accepted without critical discussion. |
|||
In Plot, at the end of the 3rd paragraph, the article says "In truth, Napoleon had engineered the sale of Boxer to the knacker, allowing him and his inner circle to acquire money to buy whisky for themselves." The book never says that Napoleon did this, only says that after Boxer's death, from somewhere or other the pigs found enough money to buy the whiskey. |
|||
Under Animalism, the article says "Later, Napoleon and his pigs secretly revise some commandments to clear themselves of accusations of law-breaking." In each case, the book says that the non-pig animals had mis-remembered this or that commandment. [[Special:Contributions/64.179.154.8|64.179.154.8]] ([[User talk:64.179.154.8|talk]]) 19:16, 22 August 2023 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 17:16, 7 October 2024
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Animal Farm article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3Auto-archiving period: 31 days |
| |||||||||||||
Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on August 17, 2012, August 17, 2018, and August 17, 2023. |
This level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
Animalism (Animal Farm) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 24 July 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Animal Farm. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
Seven Commandments was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 24 July 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Animal Farm. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
edit request on 12 Dec 2018
[edit]Think is important to note that it was written in 1943. Source could be JOURNAL ARTICLE Revolution on Animal Farm: Orwell's Neglected Commentary V. C. Letemendia Journal of Modern Literature Vol. 18, No. 1 (Winter, 1992), pp. 127-137 (11 pages) at https://www.jstor.org/stable/3831551 where at P. 132 quoting Orwell author reports ... he did not mean pigs and men to appear reconciled completely at the end of the book. On the contrary "I meant it to end on a loud note of discord, for I wrote it immediately after the Teheran Conference [parodied by the final scene in Animal Farm] .." CEJL, III, pp. 459-59
Link for Preface
[edit]Here is a link for the preface. Can someone add it to main article, so that people know where the quote is coming from. https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/the-freedom-of-the-press/
Stage adaptations of Animal Farm -- request for addition
[edit]I wish to note that the list of stage adaptations of "Animal Farm" in this article is incomplete. The first version, adapted by Nelson S. Bond and published by Samuel French, Inc. in 1964 (still in print) is still widely performed (example one) (example two) (example three)
"Classic"
[edit]"George Orwell's own Nineteen Eighty-Four is a classic dystopian novel about totalitarianism."
Is it ok to call something a "classic" as a factual statement in an encyclopedia? Or is it a subjective thing even in a case like "1984"? Isn't it against NPOV? I'm asking out of curiosity. Dornwald (talk) 00:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- That seems a bit POV and also unneeded; I've gone ahead and removed it. DonIago (talk) 02:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Dornwald (talk) 02:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Old requests for peer review
- B-Class level-5 vital articles
- Wikipedia level-5 vital articles in Arts
- B-Class vital articles in Arts
- B-Class socialism articles
- Mid-importance socialism articles
- WikiProject Socialism articles
- B-Class novel articles
- High-importance novel articles
- WikiProject Novels articles
- Wikipedia articles that use British English