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New article regarding Biden's decision to drop out - can be retooled from a deleted one

Draft:Suspension of the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign. Resurrected from Calls for Joe Biden to suspend his 2024 United States presidential campaign. Tense needs to be adjusted and it can trimmed down, but many references are there. MarkiPoli (talk) 18:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

--Another Believer _(Talk) 19:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png

FYI, File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion at COMMONS:Commons:Deletion requests/File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png -- 65.92.247.96 (talk) 22:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of "Groups and individuals publicly calling for President Biden to end his campaign" infobox and replacement with link to main article

This description box is very large and yet it still does not encapsulate the full breadth of calls for Biden to end his campaign. I suggest the infobox is removed and be replaced with the link to the main article: "List of Democrats who opposed the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign" which is far more detailed and complete. The paragraphs preceding the infobox can remain and serve as a major summary for what a user can find in the main article link. Agent123456789 (talk) 22:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I went through both lists and removed the duplicates. There were a few categories in this article that aren't reflected in the List of Democrats who opposed the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign article ("Organizations", as well as "Newspapers and magazines", so I'm not sure what should be done with those. I'll go ahead and move the individual listings that are left that do fit the categories. David O. Johnson (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== New article regarding Biden's decision to drop out - can be retooled from a deleted one  ==
-== Biden and trump coverage ==
-Would it be worthwhile to compare the tone and contents of this page and the equivelant trump in order to avoid claims of bias. They do read quite differently and the biden does more encyclopedic perhaps. [[Special:Contributions/112.213.131.0|112.213.131.0]] ([[User talk:112.213.131.0|talk]]) 03:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
-:Biden is a far more encyclopaedic person. That might read a bit strangely, but Biden acts just like most normal, middle-of-the-road candidates in the past. Nothing he does is sensational or extraordinary. Trump is the opposite. Almost everything he says and does is way outside the realm of what is normal for a presidential candidate. This means it's almost impossible to give similar coverage to both of them. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 03:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
-== Changing the title of the "Gun Violence" paragraph under the Platform section to "Gun control/Firearms" ==
-Similar paragraphs on the articles of other american politicians almost always read "Gun Control" or "Firearms", regardless on their opinions on the matter. Since whether or not the term "Gun Violence" is objective is debatable, I believe the aforementioned terms are more neutral and descriptive, especially the latter. [[User:JezzaWPU|JezzaWPU]] ([[User talk:JezzaWPU|talk]]) 17:29, 16 April 2024 (UTC) <small>— [[User:JezzaWPU|JezzaWPU]] ([[User talk:JezzaWPU|talk]]&#32;• [[Special:Contributions/JezzaWPU|contribs]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
-:I agree. That would be more in line with other Wikipedia articles. [[User:JMM12345|JMM12345]] ([[User talk:JMM12345|talk]]) 19:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
-: It does not appear that the section addresses any measures that would be anti-violence ''without'' being specifically gun-control oriented (e.g. counseling or other intervention for the violence-prone). [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''BD2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 21:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
-== Add Section or Create New Page: List of Notable Persons Calling for Biden to Drop Out ==
-I know we're not even 24 hours after the firt Presidential Debate for the 2024 election, but observing the deluge of primary sources, I am arguing we have reached a threshold to either add a section on thi page, on the Endorsments of Joe Biden 2024 Campaign page, or a whole new page that is modeled similar to the Endorsments page of notable individuals that are calling for Joe Biden to drop out. There's no other list compiled like this that I've been able to find on the internet. Anoter reason is that the reaction and calls for a sitting president to drop out from national media figures, democratic operatives, and even said president's own campaign suggorates is historic. [[User:Jccali1214|Jccali1214]] ([[User talk:Jccali1214|talk]]) 17:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
-:Indeed, [[WP:RECENTISM]] applies. Who is calling for him to drop out? All I've seen are anonymous comments. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 18:08, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
+[[Draft:Suspension of the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign]]. Resurrected from [[Calls for Joe Biden to suspend his 2024 United States presidential campaign]]. Tense needs to be adjusted and it can trimmed down, but many references are there. [[User:MarkiPoli|MarkiPoli]] ([[User talk:MarkiPoli|talk]]) 18:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
-*'''1''':  [[Lloyd Doggett]] [https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-congressman-becomes-first-elected-dem-call-biden-withdraw-from-election-too-much-stake]
-*'''2''': [[Nicholas Kristof]] [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/29/nyt-editorial-board-debate-joe-biden-drop-out-00165917]
-*'''3''': [[Paul Krugman]] [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/29/nyt-editorial-board-debate-joe-biden-drop-out-00165917]
-*'''4''': [[Thomas Friedman]] [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/29/nyt-editorial-board-debate-joe-biden-drop-out-00165917]
-*'''5''': [[Jonathan Alter]] [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/29/nyt-editorial-board-debate-joe-biden-drop-out-00165917]
-*'''6''': [[David Ignatius]] [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/29/nyt-editorial-board-debate-joe-biden-drop-out-00165917]
-*'''7''': [[Joe Scarborough]] [https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/06/29/nyt-editorial-board-debate-joe-biden-drop-out-00165917]
-*'''8''': [[New York Times]] editorial board [https://www.yahoo.com/news/major-media-outlets-called-biden-203039553.html]
-*'''9''': [[David Remnick]] [https://www.yahoo.com/news/major-media-outlets-called-biden-203039553.html]
-*'''10''': [[The Economist]] editorial board [https://www.yahoo.com/news/major-media-outlets-called-biden-203039553.html]
-*'''11''': [[Chicago Tribune]] editorial board [https://www.yahoo.com/news/major-media-outlets-called-biden-203039553.html]
-*'''12''': [[The Atlanta Journal-Constitution]] editorial board [https://www.yahoo.com/news/major-media-outlets-called-biden-203039553.html]
-::Those sure don't look like "anonymous comments" to me. [[User:Beaver&#39;s Library Book|Beaver&#39;s Library Book]] ([[User talk:Beaver&#39;s Library Book|talk]]) 21:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
+:{{see also|Draft:Kamala Harris 2024 presidential campaign}} --[[User:Another Believer|<span style="color:navy">Another Believer</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Another Believer|<span style="color:#C60">Talk</span>]])</sub> 19:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
-== Media cover up of Biden's mental state ==
+==[[:File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png]]==
-Before the recent debate, every mainstream news source had been repeatedly saying for years that Biden's mental health was fine, and that any claims to the contrary were "right wing conspiracy theories," "fake news," of "cheap fakes."
+FYI, {{lf|President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png}} has been nominated for deletion at [[:COMMONS:Commons:Deletion requests/File:President Biden letter on resigning from reelection.png]]
+-- [[Special:Contributions/65.92.247.96|65.92.247.96]] ([[User talk:65.92.247.96|talk]]) 22:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
+== Deletion of "Groups and individuals publicly calling for President Biden to end his campaign" infobox and replacement with link to main article ==
-However, after the debate, every one of these mainstream news sources admitted that there was indeed something wrong with Biden's mental condition.
+This description box is very large and yet it still does not encapsulate the full breadth of calls for Biden to end his campaign. I suggest the infobox is removed and be replaced with the link to the main article: "List of Democrats who opposed the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign" which is far more detailed and complete. The paragraphs preceding the infobox can remain and serve as a major summary for what a user can find in the main article link. [[User:Agent123456789|Agent123456789]] ([[User talk:Agent123456789|talk]]) 22:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
-This article needs to address why the media lied and covered up Biden's mental state.
+:Hi, I went through both lists and removed the duplicates. There were a few categories in this article that aren't reflected in the [[List of Democrats who opposed the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign]] article ("Organizations", as well as "Newspapers and magazines", so I'm not sure what should be done with those. I'll go ahead and move the individual listings that are left that do fit the categories. [[User:David O. Johnson|David O. Johnson]] ([[User talk:David O. Johnson|talk]]) 23:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
-[[User:Beaver&#39;s Library Book|Beaver&#39;s Library Book]] ([[User talk:Beaver&#39;s Library Book|talk]]) 21:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)