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==Comment==
{{WikiProject Kurdistan|importance=top}}
I would like it if this article would take care to refer to the effects on population of the killing of some hundreds of thousands of Iraqis under the sanctions regime of 1991-2003, the killing of some 655,000 during the war from 2003 to the present, and the displacement of some 2,000,000 refugees outside of Iraq altogether and 1,700,000 inside Iraq, for a total of 3,700,000 refugees. If we assume the population now is 27,000,000, probably a maximal estimate, this would mean that some 13.7% of all Iraqis, almost one in seven, are refugees. As few of these are Kurds, the proportion among other groups is even higher. Refugees outside of Iraq should not be counted as part of the population there. [[User:151.197.127.15|151.197.127.15]] 23:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Religion statistics a mess ==


The figures on religion are a mess and contradictory, not only here but also in other Iraq articles. Are Shia 65% (second paragraph, on top) or 45% (table Religions) ?? [[User:Kipala|Kipala]] ([[User talk:Kipala|talk]]) 23:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
==Net migration rate==

The article claims that the net migration rate is 0, which is actually sth what i cannot really believe. According to a radio comment, it was said, that more than 10% of the iraq population left the country after the american invasion until now. Does anyone know any qualified sources for this?.--[[User:LugPaj|LugPaj]] 14:51, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes they should be fixed. [[User:JasonMoore|JasonMoore]] ([[User talk:JasonMoore|talk]]) 14:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
:yeah, I dunno who made this, only in Jordan and syria there are at least two millions now.

:oh it was based on CIA fact book ................ figures
== Ethnic and Religious Groups a mess as well ==
::'''Yes''' -follow the BBC reports on the refugee crisis and the exodus. See the article [[Refugees of Iraq]]. [[User:Dogru144|Dogru144]] 09:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
"A report published by the European Parliamentary Research Service": To quote an article and then change the figures is a bit bold, I think. The number of Kurds e.g. is given at 8 million in the Wiki article, whereas the quoted report says 4 million. It is equally interesting how 15 million Shia Arabs and 9 million Sunni Arabs equal 20 million Arabs... <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2003:DF:5F4A:A011:6809:F276:DC33:F8D5|2003:DF:5F4A:A011:6809:F276:DC33:F8D5]] ([[User talk:2003:DF:5F4A:A011:6809:F276:DC33:F8D5#top|talk]]) 16:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Merge from Iraqis==
{{Discussion top|reason=The result of this discussion was '''not merged'''. <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] ([[User talk:TheBirdsShedTears|talk]]) 11:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)}}
First of all, both articles seem mostly overlapping, including much of the lead section. Secondly, the claim of Iraqi ethnicity with a strong Arab element is a highly dubious policy of [[Baathist Iraq|Baathists]] who were long overthrown; while most modern Iraqis do see themselves merely as Iraqi nationals of distinct ethno-sectarian origins such as Shia Arab, Sunni Arab, Kurdish, Assyrian, Turkomani, etc. Third, we have already merged similar articles such as [[Talk:Demographics_of_Libya#Proposed_merger|Libyan people]].[[User:Greyshark09|'''''GreyShark''''']] ([[User talk:Greyshark09|''dibra'']]) 07:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
:I support the merge. --[[User:Semsûrî|Semsûrî]] ([[User talk:Semsûrî|talk]]) 14:17, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

'''Support''' per nom [[User:Ridax2020|Ridax2020]] ([[User talk:Ridax2020|talk]]) 13:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I '''completely disagree''', they should be kept as two pages seperatly [[User:Shaxi321|Shaxi321]] ([[User talk:Shaxi321|talk]]) 08:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

'''Support''' per nom. This page's very existence is not NPOV. --[[User:Calthinus|Calthinus]] ([[User talk:Calthinus|talk]]) 00:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

'''Strongly disagree''', it will be a really shame if another Arab country's people page is eliminated, as has also been done with many countries' people pages in Latin America and the Caribbean, and Oceania. Meanwhile the same is not done for other national people pages. So again, strongly disagree.

I '''disagree'''. Iraqi demographics and a page about the people of Iraq are completely different things. Information about a people goes beyond the demography inside a portion of land. − [[User:Allice Hunter|<span style="font-family:Helvetica; color:#4B0082;">'''''Allice Hunter'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Allice Hunter|<span style="color:#7B68EE; font-style:oblique;"><sup>(Inbox)</sup></span>]] 16:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

'''disagree''', some information may overlap, but they are not the same [[User:Mcvti|Mcvti]] ([[User talk:Mcvti|talk]]) 19:39, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
{{Discussion bottom}} [[User:TheBirdsShedTears|TheBirdsShedTears]] ([[User talk:TheBirdsShedTears|talk]]) 11:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

== Disagree ==

These pages should be kept as two separate pagee [[User:Shaxi321|Shaxi321]] ([[User talk:Shaxi321|talk]]) 08:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

You are a clear vandal and have been caught breaking the WP:TDE rules for some time now. You should not be editing Wikipedia pages with this kind of dishonesty. [[User:JasonMoore|JasonMoore]] ([[User talk:JasonMoore|talk]]) 14:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

== April 2021 - Stop Vandalizing Religion Statistics ==

There are clear Sunni bias vandals who are changing the statistics to favour them. The information from the CIA World Factbook is the latest and its information has been updated.

I also recommend that the pie charts be removed as they add no correct information (allow only singular numbers and not a correct “64-69%” approximation). They serve only as eye candy.

Stop vandalizing this page. [[User:JasonMoore|JasonMoore]] ([[User talk:JasonMoore|talk]]) 15:01, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

== Disagree ==

Bad idea. These are two seperate pages which should not be toghether in one page. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/78.82.178.37|78.82.178.37]] ([[User talk:78.82.178.37#top|talk]]) 03:10, 17 December 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== The percentage of Sunni Arabs ==

The percentages have a very large discrepancy, how the Shiites are 63% and they are only 15 million, where you mentioned at the beginning of the article that the Sunni Arabs are 9 million, and the Kurds are 8.4 million, and you mentioned that 98% of the Kurds are Sunnis, and you mentioned that the Turkmen are 3 million and 75% of them are Sunnis The total number of Sunni Arabs, Kurds and Turkmen is 19,650,000 Iraqi Sunnis, or 56.7% of the population of Iraq [[User:سامر القنطي|سامر القنطي]] ([[User talk:سامر القنطي|talk]]) 19:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
:According to whom? What reliable sources do you have that backs that up? --[[User:HistoryofIran|HistoryofIran]] ([[User talk:HistoryofIran|talk]]) 19:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

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Religion statistics a mess

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The figures on religion are a mess and contradictory, not only here but also in other Iraq articles. Are Shia 65% (second paragraph, on top) or 45% (table Religions) ?? Kipala (talk) 23:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they should be fixed. JasonMoore (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnic and Religious Groups a mess as well

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"A report published by the European Parliamentary Research Service": To quote an article and then change the figures is a bit bold, I think. The number of Kurds e.g. is given at 8 million in the Wiki article, whereas the quoted report says 4 million. It is equally interesting how 15 million Shia Arabs and 9 million Sunni Arabs equal 20 million Arabs... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:DF:5F4A:A011:6809:F276:DC33:F8D5 (talk) 16:39, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Iraqis

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was not merged. (non-admin closure) TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, both articles seem mostly overlapping, including much of the lead section. Secondly, the claim of Iraqi ethnicity with a strong Arab element is a highly dubious policy of Baathists who were long overthrown; while most modern Iraqis do see themselves merely as Iraqi nationals of distinct ethno-sectarian origins such as Shia Arab, Sunni Arab, Kurdish, Assyrian, Turkomani, etc. Third, we have already merged similar articles such as Libyan people.GreyShark (dibra) 07:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I support the merge. --Semsûrî (talk) 14:17, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Ridax2020 (talk) 13:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I completely disagree, they should be kept as two pages seperatly Shaxi321 (talk) 08:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. This page's very existence is not NPOV. --Calthinus (talk) 00:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly disagree, it will be a really shame if another Arab country's people page is eliminated, as has also been done with many countries' people pages in Latin America and the Caribbean, and Oceania. Meanwhile the same is not done for other national people pages. So again, strongly disagree.

I disagree. Iraqi demographics and a page about the people of Iraq are completely different things. Information about a people goes beyond the demography inside a portion of land. − Allice Hunter (Inbox) 16:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

disagree, some information may overlap, but they are not the same Mcvti (talk) 19:39, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:45, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree

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These pages should be kept as two separate pagee Shaxi321 (talk) 08:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are a clear vandal and have been caught breaking the WP:TDE rules for some time now. You should not be editing Wikipedia pages with this kind of dishonesty. JasonMoore (talk) 14:58, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April 2021 - Stop Vandalizing Religion Statistics

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There are clear Sunni bias vandals who are changing the statistics to favour them. The information from the CIA World Factbook is the latest and its information has been updated.

I also recommend that the pie charts be removed as they add no correct information (allow only singular numbers and not a correct “64-69%” approximation). They serve only as eye candy.

Stop vandalizing this page. JasonMoore (talk) 15:01, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree

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Bad idea. These are two seperate pages which should not be toghether in one page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.82.178.37 (talk) 03:10, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The percentage of Sunni Arabs

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The percentages have a very large discrepancy, how the Shiites are 63% and they are only 15 million, where you mentioned at the beginning of the article that the Sunni Arabs are 9 million, and the Kurds are 8.4 million, and you mentioned that 98% of the Kurds are Sunnis, and you mentioned that the Turkmen are 3 million and 75% of them are Sunnis The total number of Sunni Arabs, Kurds and Turkmen is 19,650,000 Iraqi Sunnis, or 56.7% of the population of Iraq سامر القنطي (talk) 19:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to whom? What reliable sources do you have that backs that up? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]