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Did something happen recently to Canada, or is this info false?
Did something happen recently to Canada, or is this info false?

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== The former list ==

What's the point of not having the list? I want readers to know what are the modern and former military dictatorships but I don't know about you. [[User:Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki|Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki]] ([[User talk:Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki|talk]]) 04:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

:Wikipedia has rules about [[WP:OR|original research]]. We don't get to decide on our own what all of the current military dictatorships are. Similar lists of dictatorships are typically deleted. [[User:Thebiguglyalien|Thebiguglyalien]] ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|talk]]) 05:01, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Oh ok [[User:Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki|Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki]] ([[User talk:Patriciogetsongettingridofhiswiki|talk]]) 23:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Most of the list was supported by sources, the list should be restored, though perhaps without a list of current dictatorships. -- [[Special:Contributions/2804:248:FB21:1700:8956:EFAC:33C6:12A4|2804:248:FB21:1700:8956:EFAC:33C6:12A4]] ([[User talk:2804:248:FB21:1700:8956:EFAC:33C6:12A4|talk]]) 02:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

:The section was entirely unsourced. Even if there were inline sources for each item on the list, "military dictatorship" is both contentious and subjective, so it would require very strong sourcing to a much higher standard. There's a general consensus that lists of dictatorships are not viable and they are routinely deleted. [[User:Thebiguglyalien|Thebiguglyalien]] ([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|talk]]) 02:40, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

== Questionable content ==

"The military nominally seeks power to restore order or fight corruption, but the personal motivations of military officers may include greater funding for the military or a decrease in civilian control of the military."
Really? A military dictatorship is the exact opposite of [[civilian control of the military]]. I don't think this text does justice to the varied reasons that military dictatorship might occur, such as [[military occupation]], fear of communism (cf [[1967 Greek coup]]), opposition to civilian left-wing political leaders, personal greed or desire for power among the military, etc. ([[User talk:Buidhe|t]] &#183; [[Special:Contributions/Buidhe|c]]) '''[[User:buidhe|<span style="color: black">buidhe</span>]]''' 00:36, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

:{{u|Buidhe}}, if you have an alternative wording that better summarizes the article, then by all means. [[User:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color: darkgreen">''Thebiguglyalien''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Thebiguglyalien|<span style="color: sienna">talk</span>]])</small> 00:56, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
::If I were reviewing this GAN I would expect you to fix it. ([[User talk:Buidhe|t]] &#183; [[Special:Contributions/Buidhe|c]]) '''[[User:buidhe|<span style="color: black">buidhe</span>]]''' 01:47, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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== A few comments ==

Just following up with a few introductory comments on the lead in response to the request at Milhist for a quick opinion on suitability for FAC.
*"known as a strongman" is unnecessary and a generalisation, it could be deleted.
*"The military nominally seeks power to restore order or fight corruption, but the personal motivations of military officers will vary." is completely unsustainable on the basis of the wider literature and practical examples. Their intent varies widely, but like all rulers, power is at the core of what they do. Altruism comes a long way behind personal power, gain etc.
*"and the military is often willing to give up power voluntarily rather than have the military destabilized" on what basis has that been concluded?
*"Military dictatorships are less involved in political affairs than other regimes, with their policy mainly directed toward benefiting the military as an institution" is completely unsupportable.
If the above statements accurately summarise the body, the article needs a lot of work. [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 02:45, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Some suggestions for reliable sources to be examined:
*Jerry Davila's (2013) "Dictatorship in South America"
*Klapsis, Arvanitopoulos, ‎and Hatzivassiliou's (2020) "The Greek Junta and the International System"
*Kanchoochat and Hewison's (2017) "Military, Monarchy and Repression: Assessing Thailand's Authoritarian Turn"
Cheers, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 03:40, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:33, 14 October 2024

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Mostly I cleaned up grammar and miscellaneous wording stuff. However, I did delete the sentence:
Few Communist regimes are military dictatorships, and controlling the military so that it cannot challenge the party has been a persistent concern of these regimes.
Not because it was innacurate or controversial, but because it is basically repeated later in the article and it destroys the flow of the article where it was.
--Xinoph 23:03, May 1, 2004 (UTC)

Latin America and Cold War

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The end of the Cold War didn't had much to do with the end of military dictatorships in Latin America. By the time Gorbachev started his government, there weren't that many dictators in Latin America and the fact the remaining few became democracies had a lot more to do with internal problems than external. For example, in Brazil the slow democratization process started way back in the 70s.

Possible false info?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship#Current_cases

Did something happen recently to Canada, or is this info false?

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