Jump to content

Talk:Military dictatorship: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Browse history interactively
← Previous edit
Content deleted Content added
VisualWikitext
No edit summary
m Archiving 1 discussion(s) to Talk:Military dictatorship/Archive 1) (bot
 
(174 intermediate revisions by 79 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Old peer review|ID=1245295981|reviewedname=Military dictatorship|date=19 September 2024|archive=2}}
{{WPMILHIST
{{Old peer review|ID=1188668592|reviewedname=Military dictatorship|date=9 December 2023|archive=1}}
|class=Start
{{Talkheader}}
<!-- B-Class checklist -->
{{GA|18:58, 12 August 2023 (UTC)|topic=Social sciences and society|page=1|oldid=1170012134}}
|B-Class-1=no
{{WikiProject banner shell|class=GA|vital=yes|1=
|B-Class-2=no
{{WikiProject Military history|class=GA|B1=yes|B2=yes|B3=yes|B4=yes|B5=yes|Historiography-task-force=yes}}
|B-Class-3=no
{{WikiProject Politics|importance=Mid}}
|B-Class-4=no
}}
|B-Class-5=no
{{Annual readership|expanded=yes}}
<!-- Task forces (general topics) -->
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|Historiography-task-force=yes
| algo = old(365d)
| archive = Talk:Military dictatorship/Archive %(counter)d
| counter = 1
| maxarchivesize = 150K
| archiveheader = {{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minthreadstoarchive = 1
| minthreadsleft = 1
}}
}}
{{WikiProjectPolitics}}
{{WPCD}}


==5/1 Revision==
==5/1 Revision==
Line 18: Line 23:
Not because it was innacurate or controversial, but because it is basically repeated later in the article and it destroys the flow of the article where it was.<br>
Not because it was innacurate or controversial, but because it is basically repeated later in the article and it destroys the flow of the article where it was.<br>
--[[User:Xinoph|Xinoph]] 23:03, May 1, 2004 (UTC)
--[[User:Xinoph|Xinoph]] 23:03, May 1, 2004 (UTC)

==Argentina==
Argentina under Juan Domingo Perón (1946-1955) was not a military dictatorship, Peron was elected by the people of Argentina in elections everyone recognized as fair.
Malau1

==The Confederacy==
Why is the Confederate States of America listed as a military dicatorship? It had a democratically elected government which was in power until the end of the American Civil War. --[[User:203.52.130.138|203.52.130.138]] 02:19, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The article does not give a clear distiction or definition of stratocracy. The wikidictionary link provided defines stratocracy as military government.

== Pakistan ==

Why is [[Pakistan]] listed as a military dictatorship under its present form. Despite their being a coup in '99, the Supreme Court of Pakistan has since recognized Musharraf as the president and a referendum was held and extended his current executive power for five more years. Read the note under "Executive Branch" [https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pk.html#Govt|here]. [[User:Pepsidrinka|Pepsidrinka]] 04:38, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


As I understand immediately after coup in '99 all Supreme Court Judges had to take the oath again to confirm faith in new rulers..I remember that time one judget refused and he was sacked .So recognition of Musharraf by the Supreme Court does not carry much weight.About referendum many dictators get themselves "elected" .One recent example is of dictator of Belarus.

In military dictatorship there are two words .Militray -Yes Mussharaf is uniformed chief of army staff .Dictatoship - we need to find what poewrs does he have .We know he himself has made the law as who can contest elections and who can not( denied n Shariff and Bhutto to contest elections) ,who are eligible to vote and many more laws .He has power to dismiss the prime minister -he selected a new prime minister a few years back , he has all executive powers in practice , he receives all foreign dignataries ( recently Pakisitani PM was nowehere to be seen when President Bush visited Pakistan) and he has a constituted body which has military people in majority and that body can overule any decision of cabinet .So all in all it is dictatorship .And Military dictatorship to be specific. [[User:Shyamsunder|Shyamsunder]] 12:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Not only does the Chief of Army Staff hold, in practice, all executive power, serving army officers are running many of the civil institutions of Pakistan. Much recent legislation was through presidential ordinance as well. Parts of that which were of a constitutional nature have gone through parliament as well, but since parliament is nowhere near free from military pressure, this hardly constitutes a democratic act. I think Pakistan should stay on the list. --[[User:82.41.33.42|82.41.33.42]] 10:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Salman

== Portugal (1933-1968) ==

Portugal was not a military dictatorship from 1933 to 1968. It was ruled under a civil constitution, the [[Estado Novo]].

--[[User:MiguelFC|MiguelFC]] 04:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

:Nonetheless, it' still a military dictatorship. From the article:

:"Like any dictatorship, a military dictatorship may be official or unofficial, and as a result may not actually qualify as stratocratic (some military dictators, like Panama's Manuel Noriega, are nominally subordinate to the civil government). Mixed forms also exist, where the military exerts a very strong influence without being entirely dominant." [[User:Evenfiel|Evenfiel]] 05:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

== Burma ==

One part of the article says that Burma's been under a military dictatorship since '62, while another one gives it a two-year hiatus. I'll change that hiatus one, since I think it's a misrepresentation of events in the country. [[User:BigHaz|BigHaz]] - [[User_talk:BigHaz|Schreit mich an]] 06:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

== Pakistan ==

I won't give my opinion on this, but Pakistan's entry in the "Nations with a legacy of military dictatorship(s)" section, Pakistan lists "Pakistan (1958-1971; 1977-1988; 1999-'''present''')" yet it does not appear in the list of countries currently under military dictatorship. This is inconsistent. --[[User:A Sunshade Lust|A Sunshade Lust]] 19:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== Democratic Republic of the Congo ==

Was not a military dictatorship under Mobutu. The military never became the government. Aside from Mobutu, virtually every member of the government during his rule was a civilian. And while Mobutu relied on the military to remain in power, true power was vested in the country's sole political party, the MPR, and himself, rather than in the armed forces. [http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+zr0183) ] [[User:MinnesotanConfederacy|Josh]] 21:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

== Hitler ==
wasn't Nazi Germany a Military dictatorship.
-Mrsanitazier

No. [[User:MinnesotanConfederacy|Josh]] 07:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== Help, please! ==

We have a young Wikipedia contributer named [[User:Shark kid]], who has been adding a lot of material to military articles, including this one just today. He means well, but he seems to have no idea what is appropriate and what is not. In this article on Military Dictatorship, he has just added a large and inappropriate section on "Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich". I have already deleted too much of his material, and I don't want to stalk him. If you folks who pay attention to this article see fit, please edit or delete his addition, and leave a note in his user page. —[[User:Aetheling|Aetheling]] 18:26, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

:Ok. -[[User:Evenfiel|Evenfiel]] 20:05, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


== Latin America and Cold War ==
== Latin America and Cold War ==

The end of the Cold War didn't had much to do with the end of military dictatorships in Latin America. By the time Gorbachev started his government, there weren't that many dictators in Latin America and the fact the remaining few became democracies had a lot more to do with internal problems than external. For example, in Brazil the slow democratization process started way back in the 70s.
The end of the Cold War didn't had much to do with the end of military dictatorships in Latin America. By the time Gorbachev started his government, there weren't that many dictators in Latin America and the fact the remaining few became democracies had a lot more to do with internal problems than external. For example, in Brazil the slow democratization process started way back in the 70s.


== Poland ==
== Possible false info? ==
[[Military_dictatorship#Current_cases|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship#Current_cases]]
There is a wrong years. During interbellum there was a military dictatorship since 1923 (May Coup) till 1939 not 1935. In 1935 marshal Piłsudski died but his protégé successors drifted toward even worst authoritarianism. Another mistake is giving years 1981-1989. Martial law in Poland, only time of military dictatorship during communist period was in 1981-83 <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pszeszczep666|Pszeszczep666]] ([[User talk:Pszeszczep666|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pszeszczep666|contribs]]) 23:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Egypt ==
In the section on countries with a legacy of military dictatorship, Egypt is listed with the date as to present. If this is so, shouldn't it be in the list of countries currently ruled by a military dictatorship? If it no longer is then presumably the date needs amending.[[User:Crana|Crana]] ([[User talk:Crana|talk]]) 23:31, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

== Cuba ==


Did something happen recently to Canada, or is this info false?
How is Cuba NOT a Military dictatorship???

Latest revision as of 13:33, 14 October 2024

5/1 Revision

[edit]

Mostly I cleaned up grammar and miscellaneous wording stuff. However, I did delete the sentence:
Few Communist regimes are military dictatorships, and controlling the military so that it cannot challenge the party has been a persistent concern of these regimes.
Not because it was innacurate or controversial, but because it is basically repeated later in the article and it destroys the flow of the article where it was.
--Xinoph 23:03, May 1, 2004 (UTC)

Latin America and Cold War

[edit]

The end of the Cold War didn't had much to do with the end of military dictatorships in Latin America. By the time Gorbachev started his government, there weren't that many dictators in Latin America and the fact the remaining few became democracies had a lot more to do with internal problems than external. For example, in Brazil the slow democratization process started way back in the 70s.

Possible false info?

[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship#Current_cases

Did something happen recently to Canada, or is this info false?

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Military_dictatorship&oldid=1251112008"