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History section

The history section here should be put into the Balochistan (Pakistan) article because it is only speaking about that area. (preceding unsigned comment by Binsaleemz --Hottentot

Spelling

Why must Wikipedia force a nationalist-inspired oddball spelling down our throats every single time? It hurts your credibility. It's Baluchistan. The only context in which the average person might have heard of the place is in "beast of Baluchistan", spelled thus. Are you going to try to make the genus "balochitherium"? You are annoying the hell out of I daresay a lot of us with this nonsense. Ask me why I bother, and I'll say I don't know.

Another rubbish article in Wikipedia.

Just a general read of the article revels the sources for many of the utterances as Web Pages that are written by hacks without any sources of themselves. May as well call the whole Article a flight of fancy written by some young ideologue. 2001:8003:70F5:2400:959E:9700:E2AB:8D86 (talk) 08:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictory Etymology

The first, and only, two sentences of the first paragraph under the Etymology heading directly contradict each other. The first states the name of the country, given as Balochistan as well as other forms, derives from the name of the Baloch people. The second maintains exactly the opposite: " . . . it is likely that the Baloch were known by some other name in their place of origin and that they acquired the name "Baloch" only after arriving in Balochistan sometime in the 10th century." Did someone throw this thing together by cutting and pasting from disparate sources, without even reading what he, she, or they was, or were, pasting. Smanion (talk) 20:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 Why must Wikipedia force a nationalist-inspired oddball spelling down our throats every single time? It hurts your credibility. It's Baluchistan. The only context in which the average person might have heard of the place is in "beast of Baluchistan", spelled thus. Are you going to try to make the genus "balochitherium"? You are annoying the hell out of I daresay a lot of us with this nonsense. Ask me why I bother, and I'll say I don't know.
+== Another rubbish article in Wikipedia. ==
-== Clean-up ==
-As we can all see, the article is an despicable shape, as are almost all Balochistan articles. But I don't think are the problems are solved by just deleting "unsourced" content, but rather by rewriting whatever we think is important. I did some of that for the etymology section yesterday, but obviously much more work is needed.
-The lead should describe the scope of the article, especially because that scope is quite technical and is constantly being debated. So, I reverted Sheriff's clean-up which makes it even harder to understand what the scope is. The fact that this article is not merely about Pakistani Balochistan should be highlighted clearly. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 07:10, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
-: I don't see a problem with the map. "Balochistan" is apparently the land of Baloch. So, the area where Baloch have traditionally lived is the best definition there is for the topic of the article. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 07:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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-As you can see, I have changed my mind about this position. The Encyclopedia Iranica is unsure about the derivation, and we shouldn't be either. The change from ''Meluhha'' to ''Baluhhu'' in the Mesopotamian records has been noticed by several researchers and this opens new possibilities. I am looking into the sources.
-On the other hand, I think we should get rid of Varahamihira's ''Makara'' mention. First of all, the original at [https://archive.org/stream/Brihatsamhita/brihatsamhita#page/n0/mode/2up], p. 163, chapter XIV, verses 17-19, mentions ''Margara'', not ''Makara''. The Imperial Gazetters of the colonial era have all kinds of half-baked stuff and EB duplicates them. I haven't found corroboration for it in any other source, including Romila Thapar's article. So this is highly dubious. - [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 16:10, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
+Just a general read of the article revels the sources for many of the utterances as Web Pages that are written by hacks without any sources of themselves. May as well call the whole Article a flight of fancy written by some young ideologue. [[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:70F5:2400:959E:9700:E2AB:8D86|2001:8003:70F5:2400:959E:9700:E2AB:8D86]] ([[User talk:2001:8003:70F5:2400:959E:9700:E2AB:8D86|talk]]) 08:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
-== The land of Baloch ==
+== Contradictory Etymology ==
-The interpretation that "Balochistan" means the "land of Baloch" needs a reliable linguistic source. For the related issue of "Hindustan," scholar [[Irfan Habib]] says this: {{tq|'Hindustan' for India itself, with the usual Iranian territorial suffix ''-stan'' added to 'Hind(u)'. The suffix ''-stan'', by the way, is general in Persian, e.g. Seistan, Gurjistan, Khuzistan, and Hindustan means simply 'Indian land' not 'the land of (the religious community of) the Hindus', as was construed by the leaders of the Hindu Mahasabha}}.<ref>{{citation |first=Irfan |last=Habib |authorlink=Irfan Habib |title=The Formation of India: Notes on the History of an Idea |journal=Social Scientist |volume=25 |number=7/8 |date=July 1997 |pp=3-10 |JSTOR=3517600}}</ref> So, the idea that Balochistan means the land of Baloch falls in the folk etymology category. -- [[User:Kautilya3|Kautilya3]] ([[User talk:Kautilya3|talk]]) 09:03, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
+The first, and only, two sentences of the first paragraph under the Etymology heading directly contradict each other. The first states the name of the country, given as Balochistan as well as other forms, derives from the name of the Baloch people. The second maintains exactly the opposite: " . . . it is likely that the Baloch were known by some other name in their place of origin and that they acquired the name "Baloch" only after arriving in Balochistan sometime in the 10th century." Did someone throw this thing together by cutting and pasting from disparate sources, without even reading what he, she, or they was, or were, pasting. [[User:Smanion|Smanion]] ([[User talk:Smanion|talk]]) 20:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
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