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Definitely needs to be organized [[User:TheDavesr|TheDavesr]] 00:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC) |
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== Foxy of foxey? == |
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Seems to me that the song name is supposed to be spelt without an "e". Pictures of album back covers that I found on the web were all spelt without an "e" and [http://perso.wanadoo.fr/hendrix.guide/lifetime.htm] mentions that it was incorrectly spelt with an "e" on the US version of ''Are you experienced''.—[[User:Vadmium|Vadmium]] 05:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC) |
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On the back of "Are You Experienced?" [UK] it is spelt without an E. However, when you insert the CD into a computer it automatically is called "Foxey Lady". In the dictionary it is spelt "Foxy", but who knows?! Personally I'm for Foxy. |
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This is true. There is no 'e' in 'foxy'. But the way things are working today on the 'Niki Wiki' this will take at least years to fix. JW has a layer of apparatchiks under him today he's not aware of. |
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== Identity of the woman who inspired the song == |
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The reason it comes up with "Foxey" when you insert the cd is because that data is pulled down from the CDDB where it is spelled incorrectly. The correct spelling is Foxy. Wikipedia is not for propogating typos made by the first person to enter the data into the CDDB. Changing name and reference. [[User:Octothorn|Octothorn]] 06:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC) |
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:The article is currently inconsistent, using one spelling for the title, and another to start the first sentence. That's not ideal; which spelling should we go with? -[[User:GTBacchus|GTBacchus]]<sup>([[User talk:GTBacchus|talk]])</sup> 19:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:I'm changing it to 'foxy' - it seems to be the general consensus. [[User:Im.a.lumberjack|Im.a.lumberjack]] 22:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::It is known both ways. I changed it to say both, which is a Wikipedia convention. --[[User:Trweiss|Trweiss]] 20:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:::However, most people I know (being from the US and a Jimi fan) spell it as Foxy - it's not a US thing. Edited appropriately. --[[User:Garykempen|Garykempen]] 3 Sept 2008 <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 22:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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also A strip club in Providence Rhode Island and one in mass. |
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== IT'S FOXEY! == |
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Why does anyone even consider it being called "Foxy?" It's without a doubt foxey! i have the album, and it's spelled foxey!!!$!@#$!@%#QW"DOF <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.198.114.127|68.198.114.127]] ([[User talk:68.198.114.127|talk]]) 02:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Yes, in the US, it is spelt "foxey", but that doesn't make it correct. <b>[[User:Radiopathy|<font color="#006600">R</font><font color="#0D8147">ad</font><font color="#009966">io</font><font color="#009999">pa</font><font color="#1E99CC">th</font><font color="#67B2DE ">y</font>]]</b> [[User talk:Radiopathy|•talk•]] 03:07, 29 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== "I'm comin' to get you (and f*ck you) == |
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It might be worth mentioning that if you listen to the original recording carefully (with headphones), you can hear Hendrix whisper "..and f*ck you". <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.8.171.46|216.8.171.46]] ([[User talk:216.8.171.46|talk]]) 00:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Sampled by Travis on As You Are == |
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Surprised nobody has mentioned that the beginning of the song in used in the middle of As You Are by Travis. It's a little pitch shifted if I recall correctly. I'd add it to the article myself, but it's my own [[WP:OR|OR]] so far as I cannot find it online anywhere. --'''<span style="background:Black;color:White"> [[User:Bsf|<font color="White">But</font>]]|[[User talk:Bsf|<font color="White">seriously</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Butseriouslyfolks|<font color="White">folks</font>]] </span>''' 22:40, 30 December 2012 (UTC) |
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== Lyrics meaning == |
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[[Kathy_Etchingham#1960s_London|In this article]], it is stated that the song might be about Kathy Etchingham, Jimis girlfriend from 1966-1969. I'll add a sentence to the article. [[User:Saemikneu|Saemikneu]] ([[User talk:Saemikneu|talk]]) 13:17, 26 October 2014 (UTC) |
[[Kathy_Etchingham#1960s_London|In this article]], it is stated that the song might be about Kathy Etchingham, Jimis girlfriend from 1966-1969. I'll add a sentence to the article. [[User:Saemikneu|Saemikneu]] ([[User talk:Saemikneu|talk]]) 13:17, 26 October 2014 (UTC) |
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: But in [https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/22/lithofayne-pridgon-jimi-hendrix-original-foxy-lady this article] (The Guardian) and [https://www.latimes.com/obituaries/story/2021-07-20/lithofayne-pridgon-a-muse-to-musicians-and-likely-inspiration-for-jimi-hendrixs-foxy-lady-dies this one] (Los Angeles Times) the song is described as being about Lithofayne Pridgon (1940–2021), more likely than Kathy Etchingham. [[User:O'Dea|O'Dea]] ([[User talk:O'Dea|talk]]) 21:26, 6 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== cover versions == |
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== Dominant Seventh Sharp Ninth Chord? == |
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"After the amplifier is allowed to feed back, Hendrix slides down to the rhythm figure, which uses a dominant seventh sharp ninth chord, a jazz and rhythm and blues-style chord, often referred to as the "Hendrix chord". <ref>{{cite web|title=Foxy Lady|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxy_Lady|website=Wikipedia|accessdate=11 November 2017}}</ref> |
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I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. "Purple Haze" and "Spanish Castle Magic" utilize the dominant seventh sharp ninth chord but not "Foxy Lady". The main riff in "Foxy Lady" is based over a minor seventh chord (F#m7), not a dominant seventh sharp ninth chord. The inversion of the chord that Hendrix uses in "Foxy Lady" sounds very similar to a dominant seventh sharp ninth chord but is missing the major third. Hendrix hits the root note (F#) on the low string and then follows up by simultaneously hitting the seventh (E) and the minor third (A) on the high strings. The major third is the only different note between a minor seventh chord (m7) & a dominant seventh sharp ninth chord (7#9). |
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The reference to the "Hendrix chord" in the biography by Harry Shapiro only mentions "Purple Haze" as using the chord, not Foxy Lady. <ref>{{cite book|last1=Shapiro|first1=Harry|last2=Glebbeek|first2=Caesar|title=Jimi Hendrix: Electric Gypsy|date=1990|publisher=Heinemann|isbn=0 434 69523 8|page=144-146|edition=1991}}</ref> Furthermore it can be seen in video footage of live renditions of the song that Hendrix is fingering an inversion of an F#m7 chord. |
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According to this article on the Fender website it states that the chord is "implied" in Foxy Lady. This I believe is fair to say but only if the song is considered to be in F# major as this scale has the major third. |
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"The chord is also implied throughout “Foxey Lady”, which appeared alongside “Purple Haze” on the U.S. version of the landmark debut album by the Jimi Hendrix Experience, 1967’s Are You Experienced." <ref>{{cite web|last1=Owens|first1=Jeff|title=Purple Reign: The 'Hendrix Chord'|url=https://www.fender.com/articles/tech-talk/purple-reign-the-hendrix-chord|website=Fender.com|accessdate=11 November 2017}}</ref> |
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== Infobox type == |
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Hello {{U|Tkbrett}}: While it's true that FL was released as a single, is it really best known as one? The [[:Template:Infobox song#type|template guidance]] includes: |
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{{Blockquote|If an album track was later released as a single, '''use the most notable or best known'''. For example, "[[:Stairway to Heaven]]" was released as a promo single in several markets and as a digital single in 2007, but became best known as a song from Led Zeppelin's fourth album. [emphasis in original]".}} |
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Reprise held off on releasing ''[[:Axis: Bold as Love]]'' in the U.S. for six weeks because of a competing album of some recordings of Hendrix as a backing guitarist had been released by another label. FL was as a stopgap release; for some reason, JHE's fifth UK single "[[:Burning of the Midnight Lamp]]" didn't see an American release until a year later. As with most of Hendrix's U.S. singles, FL made a rather mediocre showing in the charts (No. 67), largely due to the audience's shift to albums (unlike the UK, all of his singles had been or were soon to be released on albums). |
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where's the usual list of cover versions? just heard one on KALX, prompting me to recall the cure taking a run at it, early 80s, as a b-side iirc. the one I just heard was a live rendering by 'odd job' featuring shelley hirsch. |
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It's not a big deal, but the article has always used "song" rather than "single" for the type. Do you have any additional info regarding the single? |
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https://www.discogs.com/it/artist/724750-Odd-Job-2 |
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—[[User:Ojorojo|Ojorojo]] ([[User talk:Ojorojo|talk]]) 14:12, 15 October 2021 (UTC) |
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:I don't have any further info regarding its single release. My main concern was getting the chronologies to match up, since if you go to the "[[The Wind Cries Mary]]" and "[[Up from the Skies]]" you see "Foxey Lady" in the infobox there. I don't have much in the way of Hendrix literature, so I'll defer to your best judgement on this one as you have a lot more experience with these articles. If we remove "type=single" it keeps the chronology, but only specifies it as a "song" rather than a "single". Another issue is that the US single was released a "Foxey Lady", but I'm not sure how to get the chronology to write that, rather than "Foxy Lady". <span style="font-weight:bold;text-shadow:1px 1px 40px black">[[User:Tkbrett|<b><span style="color: #000000;">Tkbrett</span></b>]][[User talk:Tkbrett|<span style="color: #FF0000;"> (✉)</span>]]</span> 14:22, 15 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::Yet another chrono problem! Let me try a couple of things and we'll see. —[[User:Ojorojo|Ojorojo]] ([[User talk:Ojorojo|talk]]) |
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:::Is this what you were looking for? The [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Foxy_Lady&oldid=1050065180 page now] has it as a song at the top but a single for the chronology, which I think looks right. <span style="font-weight:bold;text-shadow:1px 1px 40px black">[[User:Tkbrett|<b><span style="color: #000000;">Tkbrett</span></b>]][[User talk:Tkbrett|<span style="color: #FF0000;"> (✉)</span>]]</span> 15:16, 15 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::::Infobox headers should all be one color, so tried blue. —[[User:Ojorojo|Ojorojo]] ([[User talk:Ojorojo|talk]]) 15:23, 15 October 2021 (UTC) |
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Identity of the woman who inspired the song
[edit]In this article, it is stated that the song might be about Kathy Etchingham, Jimis girlfriend from 1966-1969. I'll add a sentence to the article. Saemikneu (talk) 13:17, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- But in this article (The Guardian) and this one (Los Angeles Times) the song is described as being about Lithofayne Pridgon (1940–2021), more likely than Kathy Etchingham. O'Dea (talk) 21:26, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
cover versions
[edit]where's the usual list of cover versions? just heard one on KALX, prompting me to recall the cure taking a run at it, early 80s, as a b-side iirc. the one I just heard was a live rendering by 'odd job' featuring shelley hirsch.