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== Notability ==

Im struggling to see how Hyoyeon would be considered notable to have her own article. She doesn't meet requirements for [[WP:MUSIC]], since she's only part of one notable group.
Nor has she had any proper out of group solo activities, that is apart from the occasional cameos and such.
Being [[WP:BOLD|bold]], isn't helping since this article keeps being recreated.
Can please show me what type of notability criteria she meets? + <big>[[User:ThermoNuclearWar|<span style="color:white;background:black">'''T'''</span><span style="color:white;background:orange">'''N'''</span><span style="color:white;background:purple">'''W'''</span>]]</big> 15:13, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:The only thing is that now, Hyoyeon is the only remaining member without a "legit" solo page. I know that [[WP:OSE]] isn't a valid argument per se, but if argued correctly, it's debatable. Also, new or inexperienced editors won't be aware of the various guidelines and just (re)create whatever. It would be silly (and kinda wrong) to just monitor the page and just constantly revert to a redirect when there are other editors who disagree. [[User:SKS2K6|SKS]] ([[User talk:SKS2K6|talk]]) 04:57, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::I see where you are coming from. Though, just because some editors disagree, doesn't make it silly if they do not have a base to stand upon. Regarding the [[WP:OSE]] argument, I don't think it applies, sure, the common ground is that all the girls are in Girls' Generation. However, the other members have had more solo activities than Hyoyeon. + <big>[[User:ThermoNuclearWar|<span style="color:white;background:black">'''T'''</span><span style="color:white;background:orange">'''N'''</span><span style="color:white;background:purple">'''W'''</span>]]</big> 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Unfortunately I have to say that Hyoyeon really does not meet the notability requirements and I think SKS also came to this conlusion. ([http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hyoyeon_%28Korean_entertainer%29&action=historysubmit&diff=365576596&oldid=364493851 here]) By the way, the history of [[Hyoyeon]], [[Hyoyeon (Korean entertainer)]] and [[Hyoyeon (entertainer)]] is a bit messed up, because instead of moving [[User:EunSoo|EunSoo]] took [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hyoyeon_%28Korean_entertainer%29&action=historysubmit&diff=365576596&oldid=364493851 this version of Hyoyeon (entertainer)] and copied it to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hyoyeon&action=historysubmit&diff=365796996&oldid=364087618 Hyoyeon]. But this wasn't the first time. Before this other users copied [[User:Z1uz/HyoYeon]] to [[Hyoyeon]], [[Hyoyeon (Korean entertainer)]] or [[Hyoyeon (entertainer)]] but I can't remember the exact versions... --[[User:Dr. Crisp|Dr. Crisp]] ([[User talk:Dr. Crisp|talk]]) 14:25, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

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== Requested move ==
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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a [[WP:RM|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. ''

The result of the move request was: '''not moved''' -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ|talk]]) 11:25, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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[[Kim Hyo-yeon]] → {{no redirect|1=Hyoyeon}} – As with the other Girls' Generation members, she is known mononymously. Her surname is rarely referred to outside of fansites. Per [[WP:STAGENAME]] and existing naming conditions, the page should be under [[Hyoyeon]]; it redirects here anyway, and there's no other use for that term. <small>--'''Relisted''' [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] [[User_talk:UtherSRG|(talk)]] 22:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)</small> [[User:SKS2K6|SKS]] ([[User talk:SKS2K6|talk]]) 04:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

*'''Oppose'''. WP:STAGENAME doesn't say anything about dropping off surnames. The guideline that covers this situation is [[WP:NCP]]: “Don't use a first name (even if unambiguous) for an article title if the last name is known and fairly often used." This guideline gives [[Oprah Winfrey]] as an example. The subject gets a surname in her band's [http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/program/program_artist_detail.htm?Key=Index&KeyWord=Y&No=104005 KBS profile] and in [http://seoulbeats.com/2011/12/the-woes-of-kim-hyo-yeon/ SeoulBeats], as well as on [http://snsdkorean.com/snsd-members/snsd-hyoyeon-profile/ the fan site] which came up first for me when I Googled "Hyoyeon". In both the English- and Korean-language versions of the Korean press, she is “Girl's Generation Hyo-yeon” (소녀시대 효연), or "SNSD's Hyoyeon". So the mononym is part of a [[WP:TRADEMARK|trademarky]] gimmick that puts the name of the band constantly in the Korean media. Perhaps the nominator assumes that if the subject appeared in other contexts, she would drop off "Girls Generation" and use a mononym. But that's not necessarily the case. In film credits, band members may be given by full name, as you can see [http://www.hancinema.net/korean_Choi_Soo-young.php here]. [[User:Kauffner|Kauffner]] ([[User talk:Kauffner|talk]]) 17:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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== Article of Hyoyeon in Spanish ==

I created the article of "Hyoyeon" in spanish, please add them to the other languages. "[[es:Hyoyeon]]". --[[User:Eddual|Eddual]] ([[User talk:Eddual|talk]]) 04:59, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

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==Removal of dating news==
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== Hyoyeon's Bio picture (from April 2017) ==
== Hyoyeon's Bio picture (from April 2017) ==


Seriously? Was that the best picture they could find of her? What about all her solo debut shots? Her outfit in Wannabe was slaying!
Seriously? Was that the best picture they could find of her? What about all her solo debut shots? Her outfit in Wannabe was slaying! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Anyexhyde|Anyexhyde]] ([[User talk:Anyexhyde#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Anyexhyde|contribs]]) 17:54, September 22, 2017 (UTC)</small>

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== move to just Hyoyeon ==

given that the articles of idols such as leader bandmate [[Taeyeon]] and [[Shinee]] [[Taemin]] are just their first names, shouldn't Hyoyeon's too be Hyoyeon instead of her full name? just like the other two, she almost never goes as Kim Hyo-yeon [[User:Geoyui|Geoyui]] ([[User talk:Geoyui|talk]]) 07:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

:I support this move. As stated in the first sentence of the article, she's known in the entertainment industry as Hyoyeon or DJ Hyo. [[User:Solemn Penance|Solemn Penance]] ([[User talk:Solemn Penance|talk]]) 17:00, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

: I disagree per [[WP:MONONYM]] in previous discussion. [[User:Evaders99|Evaders99]] ([[User talk:Evaders99|talk]]) 03:20, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

::"Oppose. WP:STAGENAME doesn't say anything about dropping off surnames. The guideline that covers this situation is WP:NCP: “Don't use a first name (even if unambiguous) for an article title if the last name is known and fairly often used." This guideline gives Oprah Winfrey as an example. The subject gets a surname in her band's KBS profile and in SeoulBeats, as well as on the fan site which came up first for me when I Googled "Hyoyeon". In both the English- and Korean-language versions of the Korean press, she is “Girl's Generation Hyo-yeon” (소녀시대 효연), or "SNSD's Hyoyeon". So the mononym is part of a trademarky gimmick that puts the name of the band constantly in the Korean media. Perhaps the nominator assumes that if the subject appeared in other contexts, she would drop off "Girls Generation" and use a mononym. But that's not necessarily the case. In film credits, band members may be given by full name, as you can see here. Kauffner (talk) 17:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)"
::explain why [[Taeyeon]]'s and [[Taemin]]'s articles are just their first names, but not Hyoyeon's, despite her, again, ''never'' going as her full name. furthermore, pages of the former two's names exist at [[Tae-yeon (name)]] and [[Tae-min (name)]], Hyoyeon's of which does not have a page
::I suppose articles of [[Jimin]] and [[Jungkook]] of BTS also support our argument
::The only reason someone like 2PM [[Ok Taec-yeon]] is written as his full name is because he ''does'' go by his full name when he's an actor [[User:Geoyui|Geoyui]] ([[User talk:Geoyui|talk]]) 22:30, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
:::Considering that Taemin's article recently got moved on 25 November from Lee Tae-min to just Taemin, shouldn't Hyoyeon's, too? Oh yeah, and his talk page at [[Talk:Taemin]] (formerly Talk:Lee Tae-min) previously spoke about this at [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Taemin&oldid=1123759248 here] in the section "Requested move 18 November 2022". If he got plenty of "Support" votes, then so should she. [[User:Geoyui|Geoyui]] ([[User talk:Geoyui|talk]]) 22:41, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
::::not to be rude, but does ''anyone'' keep in touch with the discussion, especially given someone like [[Taemin]]—who is one of her juniors—got ''his'' article moved at some point? it's been months already since the last comment (by me) [[User:Geoyui|Geoyui]] ([[User talk:Geoyui|talk]]) 02:48, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Geoyui|Geoyui]] Fyi, nobody would already follow this discussion, only page watchers would see it and even then they wouldn't really be bothered to chip in unless necessary hence why you see yourself replying to yourself. If you want the article to be moved, you can start a formal requested move discussion by following the instructions at [[WP:RMCM]] instead. '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 05:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hyoyeon's Bio picture (from April 2017)

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Seriously? Was that the best picture they could find of her? What about all her solo debut shots? Her outfit in Wannabe was slaying! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anyexhyde (talk • contribs) 17:54, September 22, 2017 (UTC)

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