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Surely if you allow one accent (such as Egyptian), then you must allow, for consistency, all other accents.. there must now be a Maghribi Wiki, a Sudani Wiki, Iraqi, Khaliji, Shami and so on... The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has opened a can of worms.--[[User:Aa2-2004|Aa2-2004]] ([[User talk:Aa2-2004|talk]]) 16:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC) |
Surely if you allow one accent (such as Egyptian), then you must allow, for consistency, all other accents.. there must now be a Maghribi Wiki, a Sudani Wiki, Iraqi, Khaliji, Shami and so on... The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has opened a can of worms.--[[User:Aa2-2004|Aa2-2004]] ([[User talk:Aa2-2004|talk]]) 16:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC) |
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: As of writing many are in the ''incubator'' so they are eligible to be made into new Wikipedias. They just need some TLC or tender loving care. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|talk]]) 16:43, 1 June 2014 (UTC) |
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He had a website URL at http://web.archive.org/web/20120515195405/http://oxford.academia.edu/IvanPanovic - http://archive.is/4tgJT, but it leads to http://nanyang.academia.edu/ivan http://archive.is/IgEqY |
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Comment by 78.144.186.158
[edit]I'm sorry... This is quite retarded.
I'd like to start a new Texan accent Wikipedia.
Never knew that Wikipedia is in the business of creating new languages.
But anyway, I'd like to see this wikipedia to see how it is? It will be worth trying to see that these dialects aren't at all popular in writing. I expect a swift abandoning of the project within 1 year.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.186.158 (talk • contribs)
I agree with this person. Wikipedia should be a place where people from all over the world can get together and contribute to articles, limiting it to one register of a language is silly. Imagine how much less invigorating en.wikipedia.org would be if only Americans or only Brits or only Aussies or only Kenyans wrote in it. As is, it great and has articles about almost everything because everyone in the Anglophone world and beyond write in it. Arabic wikipedia I'm sure benefits from the same diversity, why limit that with a specific wikipedia? Arthurian Legend (talk) 00:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Never mind the way this point was put and the style for explaining the POV , Masry language is not a new language and wikipedia Masry has been approved and the notability has been aknowledged by the approval of the project , the examples for similar articles on wikipedias in different languages could be found in Category:Wikipedias by language and this page is meant to follow these examples and the article is meant to be like these articles . Ghaly (talk) 13:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- If your going to make silly comments like that, then you might as well be productive or leave Wikimedia projects all together. I'm not going to waste time with people how criticise other work when they're to lazy to do anything else in their lives. ~ Troy (talk) 18:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Masry Wikipedia has been approved by the language subcommittee and very soon it will be created. The number of Editors and their valuable contributions is increasing. The New page and bytes added are rising.Please take a look on theanalysis page and I think it is wiser when figures speaks up, for Emotional and Wishful thinking to shut up.--Ramsis II (talk) 06:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Arabic Wikipedia and MAsry Wikipedia
[edit]I am a regular contributor to the English Wikipedia and I also translate articles into standard Arabic for the Arabic Wikipedia. I believe some of the comments above are perhaps a little personal for this talk page. Nonetheless, as an Arab, who worked very hard to learn to write Arabic and English with a comfortable degree of fluency, I too was upset with the setting up of a Masri Wikipedia.
The reason given for initiating Masri Wikipedia was that there is much written material in Egypt in the local dialect. There are many novels, and theatre productions written in Cockney but there is no Cockney Wikipedia. Arabic is an incredibly rich language, so if Egyptians are such great contributors to Wikipedia, then all the more reason for them to be concerned with the disproprtionate number of articles in Arabic, considering the number of speakers worldwide. The 300 articles on the 'Masri Wikipedia' could have been 300 more on the Arabic Wikipedia.
In anycase, could somebody please tell me which page I can raise these concerns on, as I understand this is a talk page for the article, and not the topic. Jaw101ie (talk) 15:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Being an Egyptian myself I suspect that an Egyptian started this. And as ridiculous as it is, I really am not too surprised. --codectified (talk) 17:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. I think this should be shut down already. Seriously, Masri? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.54.24.152 (talk) 15:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Good English skills guys!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.68.11.36 (talk) 00:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Arabic-Egyptian Language!!
[edit]Is Arabic Masry considered an official language? In fact, is it considered a language at all? If that is the case, there are hundreds (if not thousands) languages in Arabic! If you go to Egypt and watch or read the news there, you will notice that they don't use "Egyptian Language." They use Arabic language. Maybe they should start thinking about switching. I would like to see a blog to discuss this. If you know of one, please post it here. This is retarded (or what we call in non-Egyptian Arabic "Mahzlah"). I want to see a proof of how this dialect became an official language! If there is none, then Wikipedia may need to consider removing this "language." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.104.111 (talk) 23:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
This page has an irrelevant source
[edit]May I request that it be removed; source 3 has no relevance because egyptians almost invariably edit the arabic wikipedia, not the masri/egyptian one (which I agree, as would any linguist, expert and casual observer, isn't a language). Also would be nice to have a section on criticism, may I add one or will I be cast aside as a heathen? For the record the biggest opponents of this project, including myself, are egyptians. But this page should at least describe the thing properly. Moemin05 (talk) 05:28, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Notability
[edit]- Masry wikipedia has many users, it is progressing in a good pace , and the article about it has links to six other languages, that is why I will be removing the deletion template. Thanks Ghaly (talk) 09:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Egyptian Wikipedia
[edit]Wikipedia Masri is not only written in the language of the Egyptians for the Egyptian readers but it is also a secular wiki, something very unique and important amid a region dominated by religious and fanatical torment. Masri wiki came under attack from these corners, but it took the challenge and grew steadily. Samsam22 (talk) 12:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
clear bias
[edit]I article is clearly biased. arab nationalist in wikipedia english LOL hahaha --68.68.11.36 (talk) 00:19, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Inconsistency
[edit]What I do not understand is, why has an "Egyptian Arabic" been created, when other Wikipedias based on other Arab accents have been rejected? Examples can be found here.
Surely if you allow one accent (such as Egyptian), then you must allow, for consistency, all other accents.. there must now be a Maghribi Wiki, a Sudani Wiki, Iraqi, Khaliji, Shami and so on... The Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has opened a can of worms.--Aa2-2004 (talk) 16:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- As of writing many are in the incubator so they are eligible to be made into new Wikipedias. They just need some TLC or tender loving care. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:43, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
Profile on Panovic
[edit]Here is a profile on Panovic, who wrote an academic paper on the Masry Wikipedia: http://www.orinst.ox.ac.uk/staff/iw/ipanovic.html - http://archive.is/tFohg
He had a website URL at http://web.archive.org/web/20120515195405/http://oxford.academia.edu/IvanPanovic - http://archive.is/4tgJT, but it leads to http://nanyang.academia.edu/ivan http://archive.is/IgEqY
WhisperToMe (talk) 06:19, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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