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Origins

There's a mixup in Origins about P&O being first...

P&O first introduced passenger-cruising services in 1844, advertising sea tours to destinations such as Gibraltar, Malta and Athens, sailing from Southampton.

current link is to P&O Cruises, which didn't exist till about 1977, when restructuring of P&O into several entities was done, instead to parent P&O (company)
P&O Cruises is one of successors, and inheritor of cruising tradition of the parent company that did that cruise in 19. century, but it is not the same one
it seems original P&O was called Peninsular and Oriental Steamship Company in 1844; I'd like to see when P&O actually got in use (but that is for the P&O (company) article)

Current contents of this article reads as if a company not existing before around 1977 made business in 1844, which would make smart 12 years olds laugh maddly, and dismiss Wikipedia as serious source of info when laughing fit settles.

I propose change of link from P&O (which currently means P&O Cruises) to P&O (company) at first, e.g.

P&O first introduced passenger-cruising services in 1844, advertising sea tours to destinations such as Gibraltar, Malta and Athens, sailing from Southampton

Later a section (or permanent link) to the part of that article with historically correct name could be created in that article and link changed to show there. I'll probably do the first change in a week or two, if nobody disagrees here. --Marjan Tomki SI (talk) 08:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Duration

Are there any good statistics on how long cruises typically last? Does it vary by destination? -- Beland (talk) 03:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Length of cruise varies a lot based on a number of factors. Most cruises I say last in between three to seven days, but I don't know anywhere that would provide hard statistics on that. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 19:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cruise ship

Discuss about cruise ship 124.105.199.163 (talk) 05:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest cruise line

Cunard Line was started in 1840, four years before P&O Cruises. 2600:1700:E381:6AA0:B874:8704:FDEE:900C (talk) 13:38, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

40% of energy for hotel load?

I don't believe this: "Cruise ships may use 60 percent of the fuel energy for propulsion, and 40 percent for hotel functions". Here is a source that says 20%, which I find more believable: [1] GA-RT-22 (talk) 15:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Origins ==
-Ugly great things, and with a propensity to flood nice places with hundreds of morons all at once, too :-)
+There's a mixup in [[Cruise ship#Origins|Origins]] about P&O being first...
+ [[P&O Cruises|P&O]] first introduced passenger-cruising services in 1844, advertising sea tours to destinations such as [[Gibraltar]], Malta and Athens, sailing from [[Southampton]].
+*current link is to P&O Cruises, which didn't exist till about 1977, when restructuring of P&O into several entities was done, instead to parent P&O (company)
+*P&O Cruises ''is'' one of successors, and inheritor of cruising tradition of the parent company that did that cruise in 19. century, but it is not the same one
+*it seems original P&O was called Peninsular and Oriental Steamship Company in 1844; I'd like to see when P&O actually got in use (but that is for the P&O (company) article)
+Current contents of this article reads as if a company not existing before around 1977 made business in 1844, which would make smart 12 years olds laugh maddly, and dismiss Wikipedia as serious source of info when laughing fit settles.
-I disagree. They're not ugly. ;-)
+I propose change of link from P&O (which currently means P&O Cruises) to P&O (company) at first, e.g.
+ [[P&O (company)|P&O]] first introduced passenger-cruising services in 1844, advertising sea tours to destinations such as [[Gibraltar]], Malta and Athens, sailing from [[Southampton]]
+Later a section (or permanent link) to the part of that article with historically correct name could be created in that article and link changed to show there. I'll probably do the first change in a week or two, if nobody disagrees here. --[[User:Marjan Tomki SI|Marjan Tomki SI]] ([[User talk:Marjan Tomki SI|talk]]) 08:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
-Environmental Disaster? I bet you love your car too.
+== Duration ==
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-Where are statistics on how much food is on a cruise ship?
-:Added statistics on food consumption. [[User:Gsloan|Gsloan]] 02:26, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
+Are there any good statistics on how long cruises typically last? Does it vary by destination? -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] ([[User talk:Beland|talk]]) 03:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
-:Add that the ancient Egyptians had a form of Cruise Ship?
+:Length of cruise varies a lot based on a number of factors. Most cruises I say last in between three to seven days, but I don't know anywhere that would provide hard statistics on that. [[User:SpiritedMichelle|SpiritedMichelle]] ([[User talk:SpiritedMichelle|talk]]) 19:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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-Added link to "External Links" "Types of Cruiselines." Removed link to [http://cheapdiscountcruise.info/sitemap.html Discount Cruises]
-== anti-piracy acoustic device? ==
+== Cruise ship ==
-'''An attack late last year against a luxury cruise liner was repelled by an ear-splitting acoustic device.''' is this common on luxry cruise ships? [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4636588.stm] [[User:StrengthCoach|StrengthCoach]] 18:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
+Discuss about cruise ship [[Special:Contributions/124.105.199.163|124.105.199.163]] ([[User talk:124.105.199.163|talk]]) 05:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-== Cruise Ship Terminals ==
-There is no mention of where a cruise goes, or the requirements for larger cruise ships such as superyachts and luxury liners. This is a very important environmental, economic and geographical issue.   The installation of Cruise Ship Terminals greatly affects the surrounding environment insofar as depth, sea walls, and habitat for various aquatic organisms such as fish and aquatic vegetation.
-[[AQjosh]]
+== Oldest cruise line ==
-==Environmental Disaster==
-they are an environmental disaster. they dump raw sewage directly into the ocean (without any treatment) which pollutes waters. they also carry invasive species from one habitat to another. this is a major threat to biodiversity.
-i was actually looking at the cruise ships article to find out more.
-:Sounds interesting. I don't know anything about that. Why don't you add what you know, to give people a framework to add more? -- [[User:Aaronwinborn|Aaronwinborn]] 13:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
+Cunard Line was started in 1840, four years before P&O Cruises. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:E381:6AA0:B874:8704:FDEE:900C|2600:1700:E381:6AA0:B874:8704:FDEE:900C]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:E381:6AA0:B874:8704:FDEE:900C|talk]]) 13:38, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
-== Displacement ==
+== 40% of energy for hotel load? ==
-Is there any passenger ship afloat which displaces 100,000 tons?
-There are many with GRT of 100,000+ tons, but that is a measure of volume, not displacement.  A cruise ship capain once told me that his ship, with GRT of 103,000 tons, displaced less than 50,000 tons.
+I don't believe this: "Cruise ships may use 60 percent of the fuel energy for propulsion, and 40 percent for hotel functions". Here is a source that says 20%, which I find more believable: [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196890423004673] [[User:GA-RT-22|GA-RT-22]] ([[User talk:GA-RT-22|talk]]) 15:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)