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:::@[[User:Morganbunkley|Morganbunkley]] Did you read the Indigenous WikiProject's guidelines for determining Indigenous identity? Self-identification as Native American is insufficient. It is irrelevant whether he identifies as Native American, because being Native American is not determined by mere belief. To be "Blackfoot Indian", one must be a citizen of the Blackfeet Tribe. One cannot be "part Blackfoot Indian", as one cannot be partly a citizen. Citizenship is a yes or no question. If he is a descendant of a Blackfeet Tribe citizen, that must be sourced. The Twitter and Instagram posts may be enough to add his ancestry claims to the article, but they do not constitute evidence of either citizenship in or descent from the Blackfeet Tribe. [[User:Bohemian Baltimore|Bohemian Baltimore]] ([[User talk:Bohemian Baltimore|talk]]) 06:31, 4 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Edit request: Current stance on LGBT community == |
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Even though Radke's Wikipedia entry mentions his gained acceptance towards the LGBT community, it does not allude to his recurring transphobic remarks that have made the headlines since 2022. In particular, his hostile comments towards trans personality Dylan Mulvaney led to the suspension of his TikTok account amid the 2023 Bud Light boycott. |
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It is not appropriate to only refer to his self-reported tolerance of the LGBT community when he has since made numerous condescending remarks towards trans people. One of those being his understanding of “powers that be” wanting to make it so “a man isn’t a man and a women [sic] isn’t a woman anymore.” |
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I therefore propose an addition to this section. Please feel free to take a look at some further sources: |
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https://loudwire.com/falling-in-reverse-ronnie-radke-tiktok-ban-gender-identity-commentary/ |
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https://www.metalsucks.net/2023/07/27/ronnie-radke-says-some-out-of-pocket-sht-about-reparations-and-transphobia/ |
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https://thenewfury.com/falling-in-reverses-ronnie-radke-comes-under-fire-for-alleged-transphobic-comments-that-surfaced-online/ [[User:FrontPaper67|FrontPaper67]] ([[User talk:FrontPaper67|talk]]) 09:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC) |
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I don't see where the article "mentions his gained acceptance towards the LGBT community". The whole matter should surely be addressed in the article, including the issues you raised, albeit in a neutral manner, low on buzzwords. And this includes the following passage (wrongly placed in "personal life"), which I hereby move here: |
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Radke has openly denounced religion due to its treatment of [[LGBT]] people, saying he felt bitter and found hypocrisy in that Christianity was initially discriminatory against gay people but became accepting of them later on.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.theprp.com/2015/09/18/news/falling-in-reverses-ronnie-radke-fuck-religion/|title=Falling In Reverse's Ronnie Radke: "Fuck Religion"|website=The PRP|date=September 18, 2015|access-date=January 7, 2016}}</ref> |
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Not only should this be integrated in a comprehensive picture - it is unclear what exactly RR is mad about - the "intial" or the later "stance" - hypocrisy doesn't fit either. |
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[[User:Str1977|Str1977]] [[User talk:Str1977|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC) |
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FEUDS
[edit]This article should include Radke's rivalries that he has had through his career. Such as Oliver Sykes of Bring Me The Horizon, Lorenzo the Main Event, and I See Stars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.249.201.165 (talk) 03:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- I am unaware of these feuds, do you have any reliable sources to back these up? I'm only aware of him attacking Oli Sykes due to a graphics design of one of his shirts, but what off the others? - SilentDan297 talk 09:37, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
As soon as I find reliable links I will let you know mate. But you should also check out the rap song he made to diss I See Stars. It was titled "I Wash Cars". Cheers.
Tattoo sentence massacre
[edit]Somebody tried to edit in something but it is without a source and I have no idea what they were trying to say. Can someone look into this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.169.88 (talk) 17:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 7 February 2013
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He's now married to Clara Manuzza — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.24.40.98 (talk) 21:58, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Rivertorch (talk) 08:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Zuagery removals
[edit]I agree with the removals this editor has done. This article has excessive images, many unsourced statements, and other issues. One of the album he removed under Collaborations for example is not an actual album. -- ferret (talk) 16:51, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Edit request on 16 April 2013
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I would like Wikipedia to say that Ronnie Radke got married in april 2013 to Crissy Henderson and they are expecting a child together. (It is 100% true) Charlierr (talk) 14:06, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 16:49, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Grammatical errors
[edit]This must be the worst Wikipedia page I have ever encountered. It's littered with poor English and grammatical errors. Please fix or remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.206.194 (talk) 16:30, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Murder trial
[edit]Radke was convicted in a connection with a murder (which he was later found innocent) in 2012. Shouldn't there be some coverage about it? I'm not an expert on him, but this is definitely something important to include. --GouramiWatcher (Questions?) 03:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Look:
- http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/news/archive/2008/feb/23/tragedy-murder-suicide-music-and-drugs/
- http://archives.lasvegascitylife.com/articles/2006/09/28/local_news/news03.txt
- http://www.kerrang.com/blog/2008/01/escape_the_fate_singer_escapes.html
- http://www.kerrang.com/blog/2008/08/escape_the_fate_cancel_uk_tour.html
- http://www.revolvermag.com/lists-2/falling-in-reverse-frontman-ronnie-radke-reveals-the-top-6-things-not-to-do-in-jail.html
- http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/exclusive_ex-escape_the_fate_vocalist_ronnie_radke_breaks_his_silence_after/
- http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/ae/music/2011/may/05/rocker-ronnie-radke-out-prison-and-ready-make-his-/
- http://djrossstar.buzznet.com/user/journal/2817591/escape-fates-max-green-stands/
- http://www.killyourstereo.com/news/8397/ronnie-radke-released-from-prison/
- http://www.bluntmag.com.au/interviews/ronnie-radke/
- http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/ronnie_radke_vs._escape_the_fate_the_scenes_biggest_feud_and_what_we_learne — Preceding unsigned comment added by 191.177.26.137 (talk) 22:36, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Also:
- http://lasvegascitylife.com/blog/culture-alert/metal-singer-ronnie-radke-busted-again.html
- http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/six-flags-great-adventure-ban-metal-concerts-376033
- http://www.underthegunreview.net/2012/08/10/glendale-police-talk-about-ronnie-radkes-arrest/
- http://www.news-metaldiscs.com.br/2012/09/vocalista-do-falling-in-reverse-preso.html
- http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/ronnie-radke-turns-on-fans-after-domestic-assault-backlash/
- http://loudwire.com/falling-in-reverse-singer-ronnie-radke-arrested-on-domestic-assault-warrant/
- http://www.revolvermag.com/news/falling-in-reverse-singer-ronnie-radke-arrested-2.html
- http://www.underthegunreview.net/2012/09/30/breaking-ronnie-radke-arrested-for-injuring-fans/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 191.177.26.137 (talk) 23:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Mention of unverified song
[edit]So under the "Early Life" section it lists a couple of songs that he had supposedly written when he was 15 and it lists a song that as far as I can tell, it doesn't even exists. I'm referring to "Besides the Issues". Does anyone have any source proving this song exists? If not, then I believe it should be removed from the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.139.153.109 (talk) 03:00, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2015
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i would like to edit this because the part about the shooting is all wrong also it says about a gang rape and i could go into more detail about whats happened with that...please change the part about gang rape to a more detailed edit OfMiceAndSleepingPiercedBrides (talk) 18:04, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 20:26, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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Genres
[edit]Genres in this article should summarize Radke's career. That said, which genres to include must cite reliable sources and/or follow a consensus established here. As there is no consensus here and there are no sources currently cited, I have temporarily restored the genre list that had been stable. I'll take a look and see what the usual sources have to say. - SummerPhDv2.0 14:28, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- Allmusic: No individual listing. Feed from Amazon uses the lump category Pop/Rock.
- MTV has no page for him individually.
- Rolling Stone has one .brief article about him. No genres mentioned.
- Alternative Press has plenty of articles about individual events, court dates and such, but no bio page or article.
- Kerrang and Blabbermouth are similarly silent. - SummerPhDv2.0 15:07, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
More editing needed
[edit]"In an interview in prison, Radke said that the real culprits would be Chase Rader and Max Green, the first to be armed at the time of the fight, and the second was caused by the fight, but the two were acquitted claiming self-defense." What in the world does that mean? Seelie (talk) 06:33, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Current girlfriend
[edit]Ronnie is currently dating a wwe diva Paige. It has been confirmed by both him and even his ex. Aysia98 (talk) 23:05, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Parents, Instagram Citation Unavailable.
[edit]Could someone archive this citation https://www.pinterest.com/pin/532480355937696813/?
Thanks
68.189.4.21 (talk) 04:09, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- @68.189.4.21: Pinterest is not a reliable source for Wikipedia. Bowling is life (talk) 05:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- This is a saved image from Instagram 68.189.4.21 (talk) 04:35, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
Age needs updating!
[edit]He turned 38 on the 15th of this month, his page is still claiming him to be 37 despite his 38th birthday having now been and gone, can someone update this? :) 92.14.52.120 (talk) 01:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2021
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Change his age from 37 to 38 as he turned 38 today 92.14.52.120 (talk) 01:35, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Not done for now: A template should automatically update the age. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:41, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Edit request in the legal issues section
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Change the typo "Rader" to "Radke" in the legal issues section. The sentence ends with "as it was determined that Rader had acted in self-defense." 174.251.65.80 (talk) 05:48, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: The sentence refers to Rader, not Radke. Heart (talk) 05:51, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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Under personal life, someone recently changed the name of his autobiography to I Can't Explain. The title is I Can Explain. There is a source attached to the section addressing the book and why he chose that title, and the title is correct in the sourced article.
I also think the full quote about why he chose that name should be included. Not just the one sentence. Lessthansarah14 (talk) 16:05, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
Indigenous identity
[edit]@User:Morganbunkley Please read the North American Indigenous WikiProject's guidelines for determining Native American identity. There is no substantiation of Mr. Radke's claim to be "part Blackfoot". There are four Blackfeet tribes: one is federally recognized by the US government and is known as the Blackfeet Tribe of the Blackfeet Indian Reservation of Montana; the other three Blackfeet tribes are federally recognized in Canada. There is no such thing as "part Blackfoot." Mr. Radke either is or is not a citizen of the Blackfeet Tribe. Please provide a reliable source demonstrating that he is an enrolled citizen or a descendant of the Blackfeet Tribe. Until then, his ancestry claims are self-identified. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 05:41, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Morganbunkley I have explained why my changes were necessary and have given you a chance to respond. You have not done so. You have not provided sources indicating that he has any connection to the Blackfeet Tribe. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 15:54, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for starting a discussion and giving others a chance to respond, as well as citing WP guidelines and reliable sources. DMacks (talk) 18:24, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Bohemian Baltimore Ronnie himself has stated his own bloodline in multiple video interviews, social media posts, and it is written in his book 'I Can Explain'. For 20 years this has been printed and only you have wanted to challenge his mixed bloodline of his parents. Understand, that most people today are mixed. I'd have to really dig to find the video interviews.
- Ronnie states it here on a post
- https://twitter.com/RonnieRadke/status/1629924136758779905?t=GXo-Aig7JXWsw6o_78zd9g&s=19
- https://ethnicelebs.com/ronnie-radke Morgan Bunkley (talk) 01:32, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Morganbunkley Did you read the Indigenous WikiProject's guidelines for determining Indigenous identity? Self-identification as Native American is insufficient. It is irrelevant whether he identifies as Native American, because being Native American is not determined by mere belief. To be "Blackfoot Indian", one must be a citizen of the Blackfeet Tribe. One cannot be "part Blackfoot Indian", as one cannot be partly a citizen. Citizenship is a yes or no question. If he is a descendant of a Blackfeet Tribe citizen, that must be sourced. The Twitter and Instagram posts may be enough to add his ancestry claims to the article, but they do not constitute evidence of either citizenship in or descent from the Blackfeet Tribe. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 06:31, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
here is the photo with him mother
[edit]that was archived to replace the dead instagram link from his profile. he deleted the photo him and his mom awhile ago. there has only been one photo posted
https://officialfallinginreversefans.tumblr.com/post/65874082075/ronnie-and-his-mother-tonight-my-mother-shows/amp Morgan Bunkley (talk) 04:32, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
Edit request: Current stance on LGBT community
[edit]Even though Radke's Wikipedia entry mentions his gained acceptance towards the LGBT community, it does not allude to his recurring transphobic remarks that have made the headlines since 2022. In particular, his hostile comments towards trans personality Dylan Mulvaney led to the suspension of his TikTok account amid the 2023 Bud Light boycott.
It is not appropriate to only refer to his self-reported tolerance of the LGBT community when he has since made numerous condescending remarks towards trans people. One of those being his understanding of “powers that be” wanting to make it so “a man isn’t a man and a women [sic] isn’t a woman anymore.”
I therefore propose an addition to this section. Please feel free to take a look at some further sources:
https://loudwire.com/falling-in-reverse-ronnie-radke-tiktok-ban-gender-identity-commentary/
https://thenewfury.com/falling-in-reverses-ronnie-radke-comes-under-fire-for-alleged-transphobic-comments-that-surfaced-online/ FrontPaper67 (talk) 09:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
I don't see where the article "mentions his gained acceptance towards the LGBT community". The whole matter should surely be addressed in the article, including the issues you raised, albeit in a neutral manner, low on buzzwords. And this includes the following passage (wrongly placed in "personal life"), which I hereby move here:
Radke has openly denounced religion due to its treatment of LGBT people, saying he felt bitter and found hypocrisy in that Christianity was initially discriminatory against gay people but became accepting of them later on.[1]
Not only should this be integrated in a comprehensive picture - it is unclear what exactly RR is mad about - the "intial" or the later "stance" - hypocrisy doesn't fit either.
Str1977 (talk) 09:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- ^ "Falling In Reverse's Ronnie Radke: "Fuck Religion"". The PRP. September 18, 2015. Retrieved January 7, 2016.