Talk:Gestapo

Germanocentrism

I understand that the police was German, but it acted also outside Germany, which is rather ignored here. Compare eg. Flemish collaborators and their route to the Gestapo. The translators of the Sipo-SD in Antwerp. 84 Avenue Foch https://www.doew.at/english/memorial-room-for-the-victims-of-the-gestapo-vienna/gestapo-headquarters-vienna Xx236 (talk) 13:39, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Important names in are listed 'Principal agents and officers'. The structure of Gestapo should be rather described in the text.Xx236 (talk) 13:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Short history http://www.gelsenzentrum.de/gestapo_staatspolizei.htm Xx236 (talk) 13:59, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

The lead describes origins, it should inform about the end, either.Xx236 (talk) 14:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

In the lead, added about the end with link. Kierzek (talk) 17:03, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Gestapo outside Germany still to be written.Xx236 (talk) 12:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Operations in Nazi-occupied territories - the occupations were complicated, eg. the Netherlands was administered by civilians, Belgium militarly. Xx236 (talk) 12:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Besides some minor copy editing, the subject matter has been addressed, thanks to Obenritter. And he was correct your tag was not the appropriate one that you originally posted. Kierzek (talk) 12:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

There is a long way between 'adressing' and creating an ecyclopedic description, which has not been done yet.

I do not care if my tag was appropriate or unappropriate. Radical bias of this article was highly unappropriate and I have criticized it, even if everyone was happy with the bias. 'Population ratios, methods and effectiveness' is still about 'German society'. Nacht und Nebel is not even linked here. Xx236 (talk) 08:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

'the case for Czechoslovakia'? There was no Czechoslovakia. There was a Protectorate and partially independed Slovakia. Xx236 (talk) 09:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

As far as English speaking historians are concerned and most of Europe, Czechoslovakia existed as a sovereign state from October 1918, at which time it declared independence from the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It remained as such until its 1993 split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. YES -- the text is correct as written.--Obenritter (talk) 22:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

The second phrase "From 1939 to 1945, following its forced division and partial incorporation into Nazi Germany, the state did not de facto exist but its government-in-exile continued to operate." The Gestapo acted according to German opinion, not 'in Czechoslovakia'. Slovak Republic (1939–1945) Xx236 (talk) 12:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

You do realize that your argument legitimizes the opinion of the Nazis. The actual government (geographically de facto did not exist) although it operated elsewhere. As far as the rest of the world was concerned, it was still Czechoslovakia...unless of course, you prefer the Nazi stance on the matter. Please clarify what your point is precisely and how you think it needs to be rewritten with an academic source fully substantiating the change.--Obenritter (talk) 16:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

that ignores the political realities - yes, Czechoslovakia was brutally invaded and that was terrible, but technically, under occupation it ceased to exist as a state - as virtually all English-speaking historians describe ...HammerFilmFan (talk) 18:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Lead image

Preserving here by providing this diff. I've replaced the lead image with the following rationale: "Calling out an (almost) humanitarian operation, the White Buses, in the infobox is an obfuscation". In addition, the term "White Busses" does not appear elsewhere in the article. --K.e.coffman (talk) 15:22, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Ok with me. Kierzek (talk) 15:26, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Good edit.— Diannaa (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Smart choice. --Obenritter (talk) 14:12, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Translation request

I am wondering if any German speakers could provide English equivalents or translations of the information in the table shown under "Ranks and Uniforms". ShortyMcShortFace (talk) 22:11, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Motto

Apparently the Gestapo principle was "Erkennen, erfassen, erschlagen", possibly as a motto as well. scope_creep^Talk 13:34, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Would need a RS cite in support. Kierzek (talk) 14:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Pronunciation

In my experience the pronunciation ɡeˈstaːpo is vastly more common in Germany, even though ɡəˈʃtaːpo might make more sense given what the acronym stands for. See also https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Gestapo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E8:DF12:1C3E:1591:1493:40DA:5B83 (talk) 15:14, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, even the audio file attached to that transcription features the most common by far way of pronouncing it with S rather than with SH. Zgollum (talk) 18:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)