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An abandoned early U.S. Route 66 alignment in southern Illinois in 2006.

A roadgeek (from road + geek) is a person involved in "roadgeeking" or "road enthusiasm", an enthusiasm for roads, fond of road trips as a hobby. One may also be called a road enthusiast, road buff, roadfan or Roads Scholar, the latter a play on "Rhodes Scholar".^[1]^{[failed verification]}

Interest

Roadgeeks view their interest as an appreciation of engineering and planning feats:

We're interested in all the effort that goes into making roads. The railways in this country get an awful lot of press as great engineering achievements. Roads aren't seen in that way, but it wasn't always so. In the 1950s and 1960s they were part of a brave new era. Back then it was something to get excited about. They actually put people on buses and drove up and down them to have a look...
— Steven Jukes^[2]

Roadgeeks are not necessarily interested in motor vehicles;^[2] there may also be an interest in cartography and map design. Enthusiasts may focus on a single activity related to roads, such as driving the full length of a highway (known as 'clinching') or researching the history, planning and quirks of a particular road or national highway system. Sometimes, road geeks are called "highway historians" for the knowledge and interests.^[3]

Even the numbering system can be a subject of deep interest, as Joe Moran describes in his book "On Roads: A Hidden History":

On the online discussion forum of SABRE, the Society for All British Road Enthusiasts (sic), the 1400-odd Sabristi often debate about where the M25 starts and whether it is correctly numbered, or why the motorway from Carlisle to Glasgow is called both the M74 and the A74(M). In road-numbering lore, the absence of pattern—the discovery that there are so many exceptions to rules that the rules might as well not exist—only seems to revivify the search for inner mysteries. Road buffs talk in reverential tones about "David Craig Numbers" - the elegant theory, named after the man who proposed it, that three digit numbers derive from the roads they connect.^[4]

Online

In 2002, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported that road enthusiasm was an Internet phenomenon. There is a Usenet newsgroup, misc.transport.road, where participants discuss all facets of roads and road trips from "construction projects to quirks and inconsistencies in signage".^[5] Those who await each annual Rand McNally road atlas release found a community of others online who were also interested in roads as a hobby. These communities of people could share photos, swap their thoughts on the highways in their areas and "debate the finer points of interchange design".^[5]

Web based forums are popular; one of the largest is AARoads Forum.^[6]^{[failed verification]}

SABRE

Started in 1999, the Society for All British and Irish Road Enthusiasts (SABRE), originally known as "Study and Appreciation of the British Roads Experience",^[7] is one of the larger and most prominent communities of road enthusiasts online.^[8] The organization hosts a large collection of articles and histories of particular roads and terminology, online photo galleries, discussion forums,^[9] and an application to overlay and compare historical roadmaps.^[7] Although SABRE is primarily an online group, members organize group tours to visit sites of interest.^[2]

Taiwan websites

In 2006, a board called "Road" (Chinese: 公路板) in the PTT Bulletin Board System, which is a Taiwanese forum, was established.^[10] Because some Taiwanese road enthusiasts didn't know how to use a terminal or BBS reader to access it, the web forum Taiwan Highway Club (Chinese: 公路邦; literally, "Highway State") was started in 2008.^[11] It contains subforums where users discuss road policies and post highway news and images.^[12]

Relationship with governments

In Taiwan, the Ministry of Transportation and Communications' Directorate General of Highways (公路總局) has held occasional Road Fan Conferences (公路迷座談會) since 2011 where roadfans and highway transportation-related organizations made suggestions to the government.^[13]

References

^ Wear, Ben (December 12, 2004). "Road to Future or a Dead End". Austin American-Statesman. Archived from the original on September 5, 2006. Retrieved January 20, 2007.
^ ^a ^b ^c Gupta, Lila Das (January 17, 2005). "Never Mind the Trainspotters". The Daily Telegraph. London. Retrieved April 9, 2009.
^ Miller, Matthew (February 22, 2009). "Looking Back: I-496 Construction, a Complicated Legacy". Lansing State Journal. pp. 1A, 8A.
^ Moran, Joe (2009). On Roads: A Hidden History (Hardcover ed.). London: Profile Books. p. 77. ISBN 978-1-84668-052-6.
^ ^a ^b Lamb, William (September 22, 2002). "'Road geeks' ramp up their hobby on the information superhighway". St. Louis Post-Dispatch. pp. C1, C5. Retrieved February 28, 2020.
^ Thomson, Robert (February 27, 2014). "Map rage: Navigating Google's revised way-finding system". The Washington Post. Retrieved February 28, 2020.
^ ^a ^b "Society: About Us". Society for All British Road Enthusiasts. Retrieved June 21, 2011.
^ Milmo, Cahal (October 29, 2004). "Round the Bend? How We Became a Nation of Roadies". The Independent. London. Archived from the original on April 24, 2008. Retrieved April 9, 2009.
^ Greenacre, Simon (September 10, 2008). "Society for All British Road Enthusiasts". Total Vauxhall. Gloucester: A & S Publishing. ISSN 1474-1393. Archived from the original on June 19, 2011. Retrieved June 14, 2011.
^ 公告公路板開了~ (in Chinese). Road board of PTT Bulletin Board System. Retrieved September 30, 2011.
^ 【公路邦】成立 (in Chinese). Road board of PTT Bulletin Board System. Retrieved September 30, 2011.(in Chinese)
^ "公路邦 > 討論區首頁". 公路邦. Archived from the original on September 4, 2011. Retrieved September 30, 2011.
^ "官民合作‧大道開闊公路總局舉辦第二次公路迷座談會". Archived from the original on April 5, 2016.

External links

AARoads Glossary

[1] Wear, Ben (December 12, 2004). "Road to Future or a Dead End". Austin American-Statesman. Archived from the original on September 5, 2006. Retrieved January 20, 2007.

[Gupta-2] Gupta, Lila Das (January 17, 2005). "Never Mind the Trainspotters". The Daily Telegraph. London. Retrieved April 9, 2009.

[LSJ-3] Miller, Matthew (February 22, 2009). "Looking Back: I-496 Construction, a Complicated Legacy". Lansing State Journal. pp. 1A, 8A.

[4] Moran, Joe (2009). On Roads: A Hidden History (Hardcover ed.). London: Profile Books. p. 77. ISBN 978-1-84668-052-6.

[Lamb-5] Lamb, William (September 22, 2002). "'Road geeks' ramp up their hobby on the information superhighway". St. Louis Post-Dispatch. pp. C1, C5. Retrieved February 28, 2020.

[6] Thomson, Robert (February 27, 2014). "Map rage: Navigating Google's revised way-finding system". The Washington Post. Retrieved February 28, 2020.

[SABRE-7] "Society: About Us". Society for All British Road Enthusiasts. Retrieved June 21, 2011.

[Milmo-8] Milmo, Cahal (October 29, 2004). "Round the Bend? How We Became a Nation of Roadies". The Independent. London. Archived from the original on April 24, 2008. Retrieved April 9, 2009.

[totalvauxhall-9] Greenacre, Simon (September 10, 2008). "Society for All British Road Enthusiasts". Total Vauxhall. Gloucester: A & S Publishing. ISSN 1474-1393. Archived from the original on June 19, 2011. Retrieved June 14, 2011.

[10] 公告公路板開了~ (in Chinese). Road board of PTT Bulletin Board System. Retrieved September 30, 2011.

[11] 【公路邦】成立 (in Chinese). Road board of PTT Bulletin Board System. Retrieved September 30, 2011.(in Chinese)

[12] "公路邦 > 討論區首頁". 公路邦. Archived from the original on September 4, 2011. Retrieved September 30, 2011.

[13] "官民合作‧大道開闊公路總局舉辦第二次公路迷座談會". Archived from the original on April 5, 2016.

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 [[File:OldalignIL.jpg|thumb|An abandoned early [[U.S. Route 66]] alignment in southern [[Illinois]] in 2006.]]
-A '''roadgeek''' (from ''road'' + ''[[geek]]'') is an individual involved in "roadgeeking" or "road enthusiasm"—an interest in [[road]]s, and especially going on [[road trip]]s, as a [[hobby]]. A person with such an interest is also referred to as a '''road enthusiast''', '''road buff''', '''roadfan''' or '''Roads Scholar''', the latter being a play on the term [[Rhodes Scholarship|Rhodes Scholar]].<ref>{{cite news|last=Wear |first=Ben |url=http://www.houstonfreeways.com/statesman_2004-12-12.htm |title=Road to Future or a Dead End |work=[[Austin American-Statesman]] |date=December 12, 2004 |accessdate=January 20, 2007 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20060905172529/http://www.houstonfreeways.com/statesman_2004-12-12.htm |archivedate=September 5, 2006 }}</ref>{{Failed verification|date=January 2014}}
+A '''roadgeek''' (from ''road'' + ''[[geek]]'') is a person involved in "roadgeeking" or "road enthusiasm", an [[enthusiasm]] for [[road]]s, fond of [[road trip]]s as a [[hobby]]. One may also be called a '''road enthusiast''', '''road buff''', '''roadfan''' or '''Roads Scholar''', the latter a play on "[[Rhodes Scholarship|Rhodes Scholar]]".<ref>{{cite news|last=Wear |first=Ben |url=http://www.houstonfreeways.com/statesman_2004-12-12.htm |title=Road to Future or a Dead End |work=[[Austin American-Statesman]] |date=December 12, 2004 |access-date=January 20, 2007 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20060905172529/http://www.houstonfreeways.com/statesman_2004-12-12.htm |archive-date=September 5, 2006 }}</ref>{{Failed verification|date=January 2014}}
 ==Interest==
 Roadgeeks view their interest as an appreciation of engineering and planning feats:
-{{cquote|We're interested in all the effort that goes into making roads. The railways in this country get an awful lot of press as great engineering achievements. Roads aren't seen in that way, but it wasn't always so. In the 1950s and 1960s they were part of a brave new era. Back then it was something to get excited about. They actually put people on buses and drove up and down them to have a look...|author=Steven Jukes<ref name=Gupta>{{cite news|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/2732679/Never-mind-the-trainspotters.html |title=Never Mind the Trainspotters |last=Gupta |first=Lila Das |date= January 17, 2005 |work=[[The Daily Telegraph]] |location=London |accessdate= April 9, 2009}}</ref>}}
+{{cquote|We're interested in all the effort that goes into making roads. The railways in this country get an awful lot of press as great engineering achievements. Roads aren't seen in that way, but it wasn't always so. In the 1950s and 1960s they were part of a brave new era. Back then it was something to get excited about. They actually put people on buses and drove up and down them to have a look...|author=Steven Jukes<ref name=Gupta>{{cite news|url=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/2732679/Never-mind-the-trainspotters.html |title=Never Mind the Trainspotters |last=Gupta |first=Lila Das |date= January 17, 2005 |work=[[The Daily Telegraph]] |location=London |access-date= April 9, 2009}}</ref>}}
 [[File:United Kingdom A road zones.svg|thumb|200px|The numbering zones for A-roads in Great Britain]]
 [[File:Highway Gothic sample.svg|thumb|right|200px|[[FHWA Series fonts]]—also known as Highway Gothic or the Interstate typeface]]
-However roadgeeks are not necessarily interested in motor vehicles;<ref name=Gupta/> there may also be an interest in [[cartography]] and map design. Enthusiasts may focus on a single activity related to roads, such as [[driving]] the full length of the highway system in a specific area, researching the history, planning and quirks of a particular road or national highway system. They occasionally are quoted in the press on topics related to the history of roads.<ref name=Gordon>{{cite news |url= http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1224682/M1-motorway-Watford-Gap-service-station-celebrate-50-years.html |title= M1 and Watford Gap Celebrate 50 Years...with a 6p Cup of Tea |last= Gordon |first= Sarah |date= November 2, 2009 |work= [[The Daily Mail]] |location = London |accessdate=June 21, 2011}}</ref> Sometimes, road geeks are called "highway historians" for the knowledge and interests.<ref name=LSJ>{{cite news |last=Miller |first=Matthew |title=Looking Back: I-496 Construction, a Complicated Legacy |work=[[Lansing State Journal]] |date=February 22, 2009 |pages=1A, 8A}}</ref>
+Roadgeeks are not necessarily interested in motor vehicles;<ref name=Gupta/> there may also be an interest in [[cartography]] and map design. Enthusiasts may focus on a single activity related to roads, such as [[driving]] the full length of a highway (known as 'clinching') or researching the history, planning and quirks of a particular road or national highway system. Sometimes, road geeks are called "highway historians" for the knowledge and interests.<ref name=LSJ>{{cite news |last=Miller |first=Matthew |title=Looking Back: I-496 Construction, a Complicated Legacy |work=[[Lansing State Journal]] |date=February 22, 2009 |pages=1A, 8A}}</ref>
-Even the numbering system can be a subject of deep interest, as Joe Moran describes in his book "On Roads: A Hidden History": {{cquote|On the online discussion forum of SABRE, the Society for All British Road Enthusiasts" (sic), the 1400-odd Sabristi often debate about where the M25 starts and whether it is correctly numbered, or why the motorway from Carlisle to Glasgow is called both the M74 and the A74(M). In road-numbering lore, the absence of pattern—the discovery that there are so many exceptions to rules that the rules might as well not exists—only seems to revivify the search for inner mysteries. Road buffs talk in reverential tones about "David Craig Numbers" - the elegant theory, named after the man who proposed it, that three digit numbers derive from the roads they connect.<ref>{{cite book |last= Moran |first= Joe |authorlink= Joe_Moran_(social_historian) |title= On Roads: A Hidden History |edition= Hardcover |page= 77 |year= 2009 |publisher= Profile Books |location = London |isbn= 1-84668-052-2}}</ref>}}
+Even the numbering system can be a subject of deep interest, as Joe Moran describes in his book "On Roads: A Hidden History": {{cquote|On the online discussion forum of SABRE, the Society for All British Road Enthusiasts (sic), the 1400-odd Sabristi often debate about where the M25 starts and whether it is correctly numbered, or why the motorway from Carlisle to Glasgow is called both the M74 and the A74(M). In road-numbering lore, the absence of pattern—the discovery that there are so many exceptions to rules that the rules might as well not exist—only seems to revivify the search for inner mysteries. Road buffs talk in reverential tones about "David Craig Numbers" - the elegant theory, named after the man who proposed it, that three digit numbers derive from the roads they connect.<ref>{{cite book |last= Moran |first= Joe |author-link= Joe Moran (social historian) |title= On Roads: A Hidden History |edition= Hardcover |page= 77 |year= 2009 |publisher= Profile Books |location = London |isbn= 978-1-84668-052-6}}</ref>}}
-==Activity==
-{{more citations needed section|date=January 2014}}
-{{original research|section|date=January 2014}}
-Example activities include:
-* Taking [[road trip]]s for the roads rather than for the destination, sometimes referred to as roadgeeking or '''Roads Scholaring'''
-* Comparing the extent of their travels with other enthusiasts, such as the number of [[Interstate Highway]] sections that have been wholly traveled.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.triskele.com/highway-heaven/my-clinched-freeways |work=Mike the Actuary's Musings |title=My Clinched Freeways |accessdate= November 16, 2007 |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20080821162737/http://www.triskele.com/highway-heaven/my-clinched-freeways |archivedate= August 21, 2008}}</ref>
-* Photography of [[road sign]]s, bridges or various highway artifacts
-* Collecting old [[road map]]s
-* Writing about the history of highways,<ref>{{cite news |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40612-2005Feb20.html |first=John |last=Kelly |title=A Long Way to Go for a Refund |work=[[Washington Post]] |page= C11 |date=February 21, 2005 |accessdate= June 27, 2008}}</ref> [[List of road-related terminology|highway terminology]] and the design of graphics or fonts to facilitate the work of others.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.n1en.org/Pages/Roadgeek.aspx |title=Roadgeek Fonts |work=Michael Adams' Blog |accessdate= December 19, 2014}}</ref>
 ==Online==
-In 2002, the ''[[St. Louis Post-Dispatch]]'' reported that road enthusiasm was an Internet phenomenon. There is a [[Usenet]] newsgroup, misc.transport.road, where participants discuss all facets of roads and road trips from "construction projects to quirks and inconsistencies in signage".<ref name=Lamb/> These individuals who anticipated each [[Rand McNally]] road atlas release each year found a community of others online who were also interested in roads as a hobby. These communities of people could share photos, swap their thoughts on the highways in their areas and "debate the finer points of interchange design".<ref name=Lamb>{{cite news |last=Lamb |first=William |date=September 22, 2002 |title='Road geeks' ramp up their hobby on the information superhighway |pages=C1, [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45824021/road-geeks-part-2/ C5] |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45823957/road-geeks-ramp-up-their-hobby-on-the/ |work=[[St. Louis Post-Dispatch]] |accessdate=February 28, 2020}} {{free access}}</ref>
+In 2002, the ''[[St. Louis Post-Dispatch]]'' reported that road enthusiasm was an Internet phenomenon. There is a [[Usenet]] newsgroup, misc.transport.road, where participants discuss all facets of roads and road trips from "construction projects to quirks and inconsistencies in signage".<ref name=Lamb/> Those who await each  annual [[Rand McNally]] road atlas release found a community of others online who were also interested in roads as a hobby. These communities of people could share photos, swap their thoughts on the highways in their areas and "debate the finer points of interchange design".<ref name=Lamb>{{cite news |last=Lamb |first=William |date=September 22, 2002 |title='Road geeks' ramp up their hobby on the information superhighway |pages=C1, [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45824021/road-geeks-part-2/ C5] |url=https://www.newspapers.com/clip/45823957/road-geeks-ramp-up-their-hobby-on-the/ |work=[[St. Louis Post-Dispatch]] |access-date=February 28, 2020}} {{free access}}</ref>
+Web based forums are popular; one of the largest is AARoads Forum.<ref>{{cite news |last=Thomson |first=Robert |date=February 27, 2014 |title=Map rage: Navigating Google's revised way-finding system |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/02/27/map-rage-navigating-googles-revised-way-finding-system/ |newspaper=[[The Washington Post]] |access-date=February 28, 2020}}</ref>{{failed verification|date=September 2023}}
-===Yahoo Groups and Forums===
-There are several Yahoo Groups dedicated to Roadgeek activities, including the Roadgeek YahooGroup group itself and many regional or special interest groups.
-Web based forums are also popular; one of the largest is AARoads Forum.<ref>{{cite news |last=Thomson |first=Robert |date=February 27, 2014 |title=Map rage: Navigating Google’s revised way-finding system |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/02/27/map-rage-navigating-googles-revised-way-finding-system/ |work=[[The Washington Post]] |accessdate=February 28, 2020}}</ref>
 ===SABRE===
-Started in 1999, the '''Society for All British and Irish Road Enthusiasts''' ('''SABRE'''), originally known as "Study and Appreciation of the British Roads Experience",<ref name=SABRE>{{cite web|url=http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/|title=Society: About Us |publisher=Society for All British Road Enthusiasts |accessdate= June 21, 2011}}</ref> is one of the larger and most prominent communities of road enthusiasts online.<ref name=Milmo>{{cite news|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/round-the-bend-how-we-became-a-nation-of-roadies-755067.html |title=Round the Bend? How We Became a Nation of Roadies |last=Milmo |first=Cahal |date=October 29, 2004 |work=[[The Independent]] |location=London |accessdate=April 9, 2009}}</ref> The organization hosts a large collection of articles and histories of particular roads and terminology, online photo galleries, discussion forums,<ref name=totalvauxhall>{{cite web|last=Greenacre |first=Simon |url=http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/2008/09/10/society_for_all_british_road_enthusiasts/ |title=Society for All British Road Enthusiasts |work=Total Vauxhall |date=September 10, 2008 |accessdate=June 14, 2011 |location=Gloucester |publisher=A & S Publishing |issn=1474-1393 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110619010858/http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/2008/09/10/society_for_all_british_road_enthusiasts |archivedate=June 19, 2011 }}</ref> and an application to overlay and compare historical roadmaps.<ref name=SABRE/> Although SABRE is primarily an online group, members organize group tours to visit sites of interest.<ref name=Gupta/>
+Started in 1999, the '''Society for All British and Irish Road Enthusiasts''' ('''SABRE'''), originally known as "Study and Appreciation of the British Roads Experience",<ref name=SABRE>{{cite web|url=http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/|title=Society: About Us |publisher=Society for All British Road Enthusiasts |access-date= June 21, 2011}}</ref> is one of the larger and most prominent communities of road enthusiasts online.<ref name=Milmo>{{cite news|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/round-the-bend-how-we-became-a-nation-of-roadies-755067.html |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080424052018/http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/round-the-bend-how-we-became-a-nation-of-roadies-755067.html |url-status=dead |archive-date=April 24, 2008 |title=Round the Bend? How We Became a Nation of Roadies |last=Milmo |first=Cahal |date=October 29, 2004 |work=[[The Independent]] |location=London |access-date=April 9, 2009}}</ref> The organization hosts a large collection of articles and histories of particular roads and terminology, online photo galleries, discussion forums,<ref name=totalvauxhall>{{cite web|last=Greenacre |first=Simon |url=http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/2008/09/10/society_for_all_british_road_enthusiasts/ |title=Society for All British Road Enthusiasts |work=Total Vauxhall |date=September 10, 2008 |access-date=June 14, 2011 |location=Gloucester |publisher=A & S Publishing |issn=1474-1393 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110619010858/http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/2008/09/10/society_for_all_british_road_enthusiasts |archive-date=June 19, 2011 }}</ref> and an application to overlay and compare historical roadmaps.<ref name=SABRE/> Although SABRE is primarily an online group, members organize group tours to visit sites of interest.<ref name=Gupta/>
 ===Taiwan websites===
-In 2006, a board called "Road" ({{zh|公路板}}) in the [[PTT Bulletin Board System]], which is a [[Taiwan]]ese forum, was established.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Road/M.1147757235.A.5C7.html|script-title=zh:公告 公路板開了~ |trans-title=|language= Chinese |publisher=Road board of [[PTT Bulletin Board System]] |accessdate= September 30, 2011}}</ref> Because some Taiwanese road enthusiasts didn't know how to use a [[terminal emulator|terminal]] or [[bulletin board system|BBS]] reader to access it, the web forum ''Taiwan Highway Club'' ({{zh|公路邦}}; literally, "Highway State") was started in 2008;<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Road/M.1200406345.A.69F.html|script-title=zh:【公路邦】成立 |trans-title=|language= Chinese |publisher=Road board of [[PTT Bulletin Board System]] |accessdate= September 30, 2011}}{{in lang|zh-tw}}</ref> it contains subforums allowing users to discuss road policies, and to add news about, and post pictures of, highways.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://road.club.pixnet.net/forum |title=公路邦 > 討論區首頁 |accessdate=September 30, 2011 |publisher=公路邦 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20110904021116/http://road.club.pixnet.net/forum |archivedate=September 4, 2011 }}</ref> However, since the online community service by [[Pixnet]] was discontinued in 2012, the site moved to their own website.
+In 2006, a board called "Road" ({{zh|公路板}}) in the [[PTT Bulletin Board System]], which is a Taiwanese forum, was established.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Road/M.1147757235.A.5C7.html|script-title=zh:公告 公路板開了~ |language= zh |publisher=Road board of [[PTT Bulletin Board System]] |access-date= September 30, 2011}}</ref> Because some Taiwanese road enthusiasts didn't know how to use a [[terminal emulator|terminal]] or [[bulletin board system|BBS]] reader to access it, the web forum ''Taiwan Highway Club'' ({{zh|公路邦}}; literally, "Highway State") was started in 2008.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Road/M.1200406345.A.69F.html|script-title=zh:【公路邦】成立 |language= zh |publisher=Road board of [[PTT Bulletin Board System]] |access-date= September 30, 2011}}{{in lang|zh-tw}}</ref> It contains subforums where users discuss road policies and post highway news and images.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://road.club.pixnet.net/forum |title=公路邦 > 討論區首頁 |access-date=September 30, 2011 |publisher=公路邦 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110904021116/http://road.club.pixnet.net/forum |archive-date=September 4, 2011 }}</ref>
 ==Relationship with governments==
-In Taiwan, the [[Ministry of Transportation and Communications (Taiwan)|Ministry of Transportation and Communications]]' [[Directorate General of Highways]] ({{lang|zh|公路總局}}) has held occasional Road Fan Conferences ({{lang|zh|公路迷座談會}}) since 2011 to allow roadfans and highway transportation-related organizations to make suggestions to the government.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://public.thb.gov.tw/epaper/Sites/Page/12?pgid=249|title=官民合作‧大道開闊 公路總局舉辦第二次公路迷座談會|url-status=dead|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20160405094357/http://public.thb.gov.tw/epaper/Sites/Page/12?pgid=249|archivedate=April 5, 2016|df=mdy-all}}{{zh}}</ref>
+In Taiwan, the [[Ministry of Transportation and Communications (Taiwan)|Ministry of Transportation and Communications]]' [[Directorate General of Highways]] ({{lang|zh|公路總局}}) has held occasional Road Fan Conferences ({{lang|zh|公路迷座談會}}) since 2011 where roadfans and highway transportation-related organizations made suggestions to the government.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://public.thb.gov.tw/epaper/Sites/Page/12?pgid=249|title=官民合作‧大道開闊 公路總局舉辦第二次公路迷座談會|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160405094357/http://public.thb.gov.tw/epaper/Sites/Page/12?pgid=249|archive-date=April 5, 2016|df=mdy-all}}{{zh}}</ref>
+{{Portal|Roads
-==Roadgeek websites (partial)==
+}}
-* [https://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.geocities.com/humehwy31/index.html&date=2009-10-26+00:16:26 Brad's Australian Highways Page]; founded September 19, 1999
-* [http://www.cbrd.co.uk CBRD (Chris's British Road Directory)]
-* [http://www.glasgows-motorways.co.uk Glasgow's Motorways Fan & Info Site]
-* [http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/greatlakesroads/ Great Lakes Roads] [[Yahoo! Group]] (US); founded February 16, 2002
-* [http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1394 Irish Roads forum] on [[boards.ie]]
-* [http://www.thekingshighway.ca/ The King's Highway (Ontario, Canada highways)]
-* [http://kurumi.com/roads/interchanges/index.html Kurumi's Field Guide to Interchanges]
-* [news://misc.transport.road misc.transport.road] ([[Usenet]]); charter approved November 27, 1995<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.faqs.org/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/misc/misc.transport.misc|title=RFD unmoderated group misc.transport.misc|last=Herron|first=Kenneth|date=November 27, 1995|work=Internet FAQ Archives|publisher=Advameg|format=TXT|accessdate=August 16, 2009}}<!--"charters were approved for misc.transport.misc, misc.transport.marine, and misc.transport.road; the charter for misc.transport.road "is for discussion of all aspects of road/highway transportation and design not included in other groups (such as misc.transport.trucking and misc.transport.urban-transit)."--></ref>
-* [http://www.roadfan.com/mtrfaq.html misc.transport.road FAQ]
-* [http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/roads Northern Ireland Road Site]
-* [http://www.ozroads.com.au Ozroads: The Australian Roads Website]; founded July 13, 2003
-* [http://www.pathetic.org.uk Pathetic Motorways (UK)]
-* [https://groups.yahoo.com/group/roadgeek/ Roadgeek] [[Yahoo! Group]]; founded April 25, 1999
-* [http://www.roadsuk.com Roads UK]
-* [http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/ Society for All British and Irish Road Enthusiasts (SABRE)], founded August 13, 1999
-==See also==
-{{Portal|Roads|U.S. Roads|Canada}}
-* [[County collecting]]
-* [[Metrophile]]
-* [[OpenStreetMap]]
-* [[Railfan]]
-* Spotting
-** [[Aircraft spotting]]
-** [[Bus spotting]]
-** [[Car spotting]]
-** [[Railfan#Trainspotting|Trainspotting]]
 ==References==
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 ==External links==
 * [http://www.aaroads.com/glossary.php AARoads Glossary]
-* {{dmoz|/Recreation/Roads_and_Highways/|Roadgeek sites}}
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 [[Category:Transport culture]]
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+[[Category:Transportation engineering]]
+[[Category:Highways]]