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== error in age--70 not 60 ==
== Update Neil Diamond ==


I don't know how to edit the Neil Diamond article -can someone help or do it for me? Here's the edit:
"In 2012, Diamond married his manager, Katie McNeil, in front of family and close friends in Los Angeles.[75] Seven months earlier, on September 7 2011, in a message on Twitter, the 60-year-old Diamond announced his engagement to the 41-year-old McNeil."


Nick Fradiani, who won American Idol in 2015, succeeded Will Swenson as Neil Diamond in "A Beautiful Noise" on October 31, 2023.
he was born in 1941, so in 2011, he was 70, not 60..
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Multiple sources, including Broadway News. [[User:Marlene41|Marlene41]] ([[User talk:Marlene41|talk]]) 05:09, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Neil Diamond missing information ==
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i recently saw Neil Diamond show on Broadway Beautiful Noise. After reading Wiki page I noticed a big part of Neil's early success was due to Ellie Greenwich--also in Brill Building. There is no mention of her. She even convinced him to keep his name which is Neil Diamond. [[User:NancyjaneR|NancyjaneR]] ([[User talk:NancyjaneR|talk]]) 14:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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== Album sales, first paragraph ==

I just added that Diamond has sold 130 million albums, and removed the wikilink to the [[List of best-selling music artists]]. I did this to maintain consistency -- sources vary on the number of albums he has sold, and while the best selling artists of all time article asserts that he has sold 100 million albums, I believe that sources such as ''[http://www.newsweek.com/what-wrong-neil-diamond-legendary-singer-diagnosed-parkinsons-disease-will-no-787574 Newsweek]'' and the [http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42784305 BBC] are accurate in reporting 130 million. [[User:JSFarman|JSFarman]] ([[User talk:JSFarman|talk]]) 21:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

== Consensus needed: 100 million worldwide sales vs. 130 ==

According to these sources, Neil Diamond has sold more than 130 million albums:
*[http://www.newsweek.com/what-wrong-neil-diamond-legendary-singer-diagnosed-parkinsons-disease-will-no-787574 ''Newseek'']: "Diamond has sold more than 130 million albums worldwide and 38 of his singles have made it to the Top 40, according to the academy."
*[http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42784305 BBC]: "Diamond, who has sold over 130 million albums worldwide, is set to receive a lifetime achievement award at Sunday's Grammy Awards."
*[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/22/neil-diamond-says-he-has-parkinsons-disease-will-retire-from-touring/?utm_term=.ff4be833ee33 ''Washington Post'' ]: "He is one of the world’s most popular recording artists, having sold more than 130 million records. At least 53 of his songs have landed on the Billboard Top 100 chart and 55 albums on the Billboard 200 chart. He was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 2011."
*[https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-singer-neil-diamond-retires-from-touring-after-parkinsons-diagnosis-r6dgxr78k/ ''The Times'' (UK)]: "He has sold more than 130 million albums worldwide, making him one of the bestselling artists in history."
*[http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/neil-diamonds-golden-anniversary-tour-comes-to-australia-20171109-gzhyrj.html ''Sydney Morning Herald'']:"...he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and he performed to a crowd of more than 100,000 at the Glastonbury Festival. Over his long career he has sold 130 million albums."

There are many other sources for 130 million. [https://www.google.com/search?q=Neil+Diamond+%22130+million%22&oq=Neil+Diamond+%22130+million%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j35i39l2.12269j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 A search on Google using the keywords "Neil Diamond 130 million" returns (way more) than 100,000 results]. [[User:Politsi|Politsi]] asserts that he has sold 100 million worldwide, today using [https://news.sky.com/story/neil-diamond-to-stop-touring-after-parkinsons-diagnosis-11219060 Sky News]: "The Rock and Roll Hall of Famer is one of the best selling musicians of all time and is '''estimated''' to have sold '''around''' 100 million records." Emphasis mine -- those are not terms a major media organization uses when they are reporting a fact. (My guess is it came from the [[List of best-selling music artists]], which itself uses "claimed" and "reputed" as a disclaimer of sorts. )

Can we get a consensus? Thanks. [[User:JSFarman|JSFarman]] ([[User talk:JSFarman|talk]]) 16:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
:Sky News is the most reliable source above all of sources that you have mention. You should understand the meaning of INFLATED sales figure for promotional purpose. [[User:Politsi|Politsi]] ([[User talk:Politsi|talk]]) 16:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
::There are also many sources that claim 100 million records including all of the following [http://www.belgrade.co.uk/event/a-beautiful-noise-neil-diamond belgrade.co.uk], [http://globegazette.com/vee-family-to-perform-songs-of-neil-diamond-at-clear/article_88e7a645-da68-5077-89dd-b500618a447d.html globegazette.com], [http://www.republican-eagle.com/entertainment/4333370-vee-family-celebrates-neil-diamonds-music republican-eagle.com]. Based on Dimaond's available certified sales ([http://www.mediafire.com/file/yd2fb6bwc23j226/Neil+Diamond%27s+Certified+Sales%282%29.doc 68.3 million units]), the 100 million is more reasonable. Also, those sources that claim 130 million ''albums'', are sources that should not be used as Diamond's records sales are based on albums, singles and videos. So, 100 million in album sales would be more inflated than claims such as 130 million ''records'' (which stands for albums, singles, videos). Either way, 130 million claims should be avoided.--[[User:Harout72|Harout72]] ([[User talk:Harout72|talk]]) 17:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
:::[http://www.belgrade.co.uk/event/a-beautiful-noise-neil-diamond/ belgrade.co.uk] is published by [[Belgrade Theatre]]; the 100 million figure comes a promotional piece about an upcoming performance there based on Neil Diamond's music. The ''[[Globe Gazette]]'' is a daily in Mason City, Iowa with a circulation of 19,000; the article you're sourcing is [http://globegazette.com/vee-family-to-perform-songs-of-neil-diamond-at-clear/article "Vee Family to Perform Songs of Neil Diamond at Clear Lakes Surf Ballroom" ] the ''[[Red Wing Republican Eagle]]'' (circulation 6200, twice weekly) is another article about [http://www.republican-eagle.com/entertainment/4333370-vee-family-celebrates-neil-diamonds-music a Vee Family performance at a local venue].
:::Also (and please correct me if I'm misunderstanding), the sources that I've quoted above specify albums; singles and videos would add to the 100 million figure. Neil Diamond has 38 hit singles, many of them released during the 60s-80s heyday of the single format. ''[[Sweet Caroline]]'' alone sold 2 million copies and it's one of 58 (albeit lesser) hit singles. Again, I am perhaps misunderstanding, and if so, apologies. [[User:JSFarman|JSFarman]] ([[User talk:JSFarman|talk]]) 18:20, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 05:18, 20 October 2024

Update Neil Diamond

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I don't know how to edit the Neil Diamond article -can someone help or do it for me? Here's the edit:

Nick Fradiani, who won American Idol in 2015, succeeded Will Swenson as Neil Diamond in "A Beautiful Noise" on October 31, 2023.

Multiple sources, including Broadway News. Marlene41 (talk) 05:09, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Diamond missing information

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i recently saw Neil Diamond show on Broadway Beautiful Noise. After reading Wiki page I noticed a big part of Neil's early success was due to Ellie Greenwich--also in Brill Building. There is no mention of her. She even convinced him to keep his name which is Neil Diamond. NancyjaneR (talk) 14:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]