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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2022 ==
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Hello fellow Wikipedians,
Declarada culpable del caso más grande de corrupción jamás investigado en la Argentina:


La vicepresidenta de Argentina, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, fue declarada culpable de corrupción por un tribunal federal el martes en un caso que se remonta a cuando era presidenta.
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Los fiscales afirman que, cuando era presidenta, colaboró con otras personas para sustraer cerca de 1.000 millones de dólares procedentes de contratos falsos y de la falsa construcción de 51 proyectos de obras públicas.
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Kirchner fue presidenta de Argentina entre 2007 y 2015 y planeó un regreso político en 2019, presentándose como candidata a la vicepresidencia con Alberto Fernández. Kirchner niega cualquier delito y habló justo después del veredicto, diciendo que ella es el objetivo de los jueces, a quienes llamó una mafia que dirige un partido paralelo empeñado en mantenerla fuera del cargo.
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Kirchner no será encarcelada mientras apela el veredicto, lo que podría llevar años.
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Kirchner es una figura polarizadora en Argentina, considerada por sus fieles seguidores como una defensora de los pobres. Otros la culpan de los continuos problemas económicos del país, incluida la inflación, que se espera alcance el 100% a finales de año. [[Special:Contributions/2600:8802:C16:A600:4483:93F8:197D:3017|2600:8802:C16:A600:4483:93F8:197D:3017]] ([[User talk:2600:8802:C16:A600:4483:93F8:197D:3017|talk]]) 17:57, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
== Lede concerning Alberto Nisman and other controversies ==
:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a [[WP:EDITXY|"change X to Y" format]] and provide a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] if appropriate.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Ïvana|Ïvana]] ([[User talk:Ïvana|talk]]) 18:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


== Lead image ==
Some controversies are being removed from the lede. The information seems well backed by RS. @Cambalachero, any particular reason why this is being removed? [[User:Stefka Bulgaria|Stefka Bulgaria]] ([[User talk:Stefka Bulgaria|talk]]) 06:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


:See [[WP:Lead fixation]]. Yes, all that info is already included and referenced... in the body of the article. The lead must be a brief summary of info that is fully explained later, and a simple line "Several corruption scandals took place, and she faced several demonstrations against her rule." is enough at that level. Same for everything else: in my version of the lead, for each line that says something about her rule, there is an expanded info later on. That's why I did not mention, for example, the [[Universal allocation per child]] in the lead: it's mentioned in the "Economic policy" section, but there isn't much more to say about it than that sentence, it's just a social security program. [[User:Cambalachero|Cambalachero]] ([[User talk:Cambalachero|talk]]) 13:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
There is some discussion over the image to use as lead image. Although there is no written policy, the usual criteria is (as long as we have free images to choose from) to use an image that shows how does the person look like nowadays if the person is alive, and one of how the person looked at the climax of his career once the person dies. For example, if memory serves [[:File:Fidel Castro 2009.jpg]] was the lead image of [[Fidel Castro]], replaced by [[:File:Fidel Castro - MATS Terminal Washington 1959.jpg]] when he died. [[User:Cambalachero|Cambalachero]] ([[User talk:Cambalachero|talk]]) 13:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
:: Thanks for your reply. User:Dianaa seems to have been able to balance this out per their last edit. It looks fine to me now. If you think this needs further discussion let me know and we can perhaps open a RfC to get others involved. Regards. [[User:Stefka Bulgaria|Stefka Bulgaria]] ([[User talk:Stefka Bulgaria|talk]]) 12:05, 9 February 2019 (UTC)


== Overview ==
== GA concerns ==


I am concerned that this article no longer meets the [[WP:GA?|good article criteria]] because of the unresolved orange banners about needing updates and NPOV language on her image. Is anyone willing to resolve these concerns, or should this go to [[WP:GAR]]? [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 19:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles do not need to have overview sections: that's what the lead is for. See [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section]] for details. [[User:Cambalachero|Cambalachero]] ([[User talk:Cambalachero|talk]]) 02:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
:As per [[MOS:LEADLENGTH]] an article of this size (4,500+ characters) can have 3 or 4 paragraphs in the lead section, which is exactly the number of paragraphs the article had before [[User:Elizabeta Kirkland]]'s edits. The usage of an 'Overview' section is not standard and contrary to the purpose of the lead section. I suppose continued [[User:Elizabeta Kirkland]]'s noncompliance with the MOS, disregard of consensus and unwillingness to participate in discussion (as we don't know the rationale behind their edits) should be dealt with administrative action. --[[User:MewMeowth|MewMeowth]] ([[User talk:MewMeowth|talk]]) 21:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


==GA Reassessment==
== Argentina only apparently democratic? ==
{{Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Cristina Fernández de Kirchner/1}}

The following phrase is preposterous: "glorifying democracy in speeches while maintaining only the appearance of it". Can we remove it? --[[User:ExperiencedArticleFixer|ExperiencedArticleFixer]] ([[User talk:ExperiencedArticleFixer|talk]]) 00:39, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah what is up with that section, this is not "Public image", this is "Criticism from the point of view of [[Axel Kaiser]]". – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 17:35, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2020 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Cristina Fernández de Kirchner|answered=yes}}
It most say at some point that Argentinean people feel that she is a thieve of Argentinean economy's known as Ladrona del Pueblo Argentino. [[User:Exoticproduits|Exoticproduits]] ([[User talk:Exoticproduits|talk]]) 17:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> please review [[WP:BLP]] – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 17:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 07:02, 20 October 2024

Former good articleCristina Fernández de Kirchner was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 6, 2017Good article nomineeListed
September 23, 2024Good article reassessmentDelisted
On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on October 28, 2009, October 28, 2010, October 28, 2018, and October 28, 2022.
Current status: Delisted good article

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2022

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Declarada culpable del caso más grande de corrupción jamás investigado en la Argentina:

La vicepresidenta de Argentina, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, fue declarada culpable de corrupción por un tribunal federal el martes en un caso que se remonta a cuando era presidenta.

Los fiscales afirman que, cuando era presidenta, colaboró con otras personas para sustraer cerca de 1.000 millones de dólares procedentes de contratos falsos y de la falsa construcción de 51 proyectos de obras públicas.

Kirchner fue presidenta de Argentina entre 2007 y 2015 y planeó un regreso político en 2019, presentándose como candidata a la vicepresidencia con Alberto Fernández. Kirchner niega cualquier delito y habló justo después del veredicto, diciendo que ella es el objetivo de los jueces, a quienes llamó una mafia que dirige un partido paralelo empeñado en mantenerla fuera del cargo.

Kirchner no será encarcelada mientras apela el veredicto, lo que podría llevar años.

Kirchner es una figura polarizadora en Argentina, considerada por sus fieles seguidores como una defensora de los pobres. Otros la culpan de los continuos problemas económicos del país, incluida la inflación, que se espera alcance el 100% a finales de año. 2600:8802:C16:A600:4483:93F8:197D:3017 (talk) 17:57, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Ïvana (talk) 18:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead image

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There is some discussion over the image to use as lead image. Although there is no written policy, the usual criteria is (as long as we have free images to choose from) to use an image that shows how does the person look like nowadays if the person is alive, and one of how the person looked at the climax of his career once the person dies. For example, if memory serves File:Fidel Castro 2009.jpg was the lead image of Fidel Castro, replaced by File:Fidel Castro - MATS Terminal Washington 1959.jpg when he died. Cambalachero (talk) 13:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

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I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria because of the unresolved orange banners about needing updates and NPOV language on her image. Is anyone willing to resolve these concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 19:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Result: Delisted. Charlotte (Queen of Heartstalk) 23:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are two orange banners in the article: an "update needed" banner from 2022, and a "NPOV" banner for the "Image" section from 2021. Z1720 (talk) 20:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.