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Unbalanced lead

The lead states that he was appointed Head of the National Reform Council of Ukraine but the body of the article has only one sentence on that, referenced by one page no longer available and one behind a pay all. There's no Wikipedia article on this organisation. By contrast the body of the article has a lot of information about his current incarceration in Georgia but there's nothing in the lead. I'm sure that he is a very controversial figure in Georgia but it would be helpful if the lead and the body of the article could match up. I am a visitor to Georgia and had no idea he was incarcerated until I looked up this article. Nine-and-fifty swans (talk) 01:24, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noticing in general the lead is oddly long - could use a trimming. Lucksash (talk) 09:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What the fuck?

That's a looooooooooong lead. Nobody is gonna read that. Synotia (moan) 20:53, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious grammar

The Prosecutor's Office of Georgia filed criminal charges against Saakashvili over allegedly exceeding official powers during the 2007 Georgian demonstrations, as well as a police raid on and "seizure" of Imedi TV and other assets owned by the late tycoon Badri Patarkatsishvili, the embezzlement of GEL 9,024,367 owned by the Special State Protection Service for his personal purposes, exceeding official powers in the episode of battery of Valeri Gelashvili and organization of a grievous bodily injury, and exceeding official powers in the episode of pardon in prior agreement of the individuals tried for Sandro Girgvliani's murder.

The grammar of the "as well as" item strikes me as dubious, and even if grammatical, "organization" also fails to respect parallel ~~-ing~~ verb structure. — MaxEnt 04:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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+Participate in the deletion discussion at the [[commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Saakashvili.jpg|nomination page]]. —[[User:Community Tech bot|Community Tech bot]] ([[User talk:Community Tech bot|talk]]) 22:23, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
-What I mean is that Saakashvili's photo is him smiling. Meanwhile, [[Vladimir Putin]]'s picture is a mean-looking face. Is this pro-Saakashvili and anti-Putin? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Kylelovesyou|Kylelovesyou]] ([[User talk:Kylelovesyou|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kylelovesyou|contribs]]) 11:07, 30 May 2012</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
-== When did he lose Georgian citizenship? ==
-The article contradicts itself:
-''On 4 December 2015 Saakashvili was stripped of his Georgian citizenship. According to him this was done to prevent him to lead the United National Movement in the 2016 Georgian parliamentary election.'' but then ''Saakashvili stated on 1 June 2015 that he had given up (three days before) Georgian citizenship to avoid "guaranteed imprisonment" in Georgia.''
-Or did he lose Georgian citizenship automatically when he became Ukrainian, and the December 2015 decision was just a confirmation of that?--[[Special:Contributions/176.7.54.203|176.7.54.203]] ([[User talk:176.7.54.203|talk]]) 07:41, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
-:[[[[User talk:176.7.54.203]] - 5 months after your post, the very same contradiction is there in the article. I was going to ask the exact same question but ask the question as "Did he loose or give up his citizenship?".[[User:Frenchmalawi|Frenchmalawi]] ([[User talk:Frenchmalawi|talk]]) 12:00, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
-::He was stripped of Georgian citizenship on account of his being granted Ukrainian citizenship. [http://civil.ge/eng/article.php?id=28829 Here's an article] on that.--[[User:Kober|Kober]]<sup>[[User talk:Kober|Talk]]</sup> 13:28, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
-== Not sure if this is [[wp:noticeable|noticeable]].... ==
-but on 11 September 2016 Saakashvili said that the party named after and founded by  the man who apointed him governor, the [[Petro Poroshenko Bloc]], "[http://pda.pravda.com.ua/news/id_7120408 has become a criminal group]". At the time I wrote this this was [[WP:NOTNEWS]] and not picked up by English speaking main stream press.... but if Saakashvili gets dismissed as governor of [[Odesa Oblast]].... this description of Petro Poroshenko Bloc might be relevant to mention in Saakashvili's Wikipedia article.  — '''[[User:Yulia Romero|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:orange">Yulia Romero</span>]]'''&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User_talk:Yulia Romero|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:blue">Talk to me!</span>]] 21:27, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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+The lead states that he was appointed Head of the National Reform Council of Ukraine but the body of the article has only one sentence on that, referenced by one page no longer available and one behind a pay all.  There's no Wikipedia article on this organisation.  By contrast the body of the article has a lot of information about his current incarceration in Georgia but there's nothing in the lead. I'm sure that he is a very controversial figure in Georgia but it would be helpful if the lead and the body of the article could match up.  I am a visitor to Georgia and had no idea he was incarcerated until I looked up this article. [[User:Nine-and-fifty swans|Nine-and-fifty swans]] ([[User talk:Nine-and-fifty swans|talk]]) 01:24, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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+:Noticing in general the lead is oddly long - could use a trimming. [[User:Lucksash|Lucksash]] ([[User talk:Lucksash|talk]]) 09:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
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+That's a looooooooooong lead. Nobody is gonna read ''that''. [[User:Synotia|Synotia]] ([[User talk:Synotia|moan]]) 20:53, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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+The Prosecutor's Office of Georgia filed criminal charges against Saakashvili over allegedly '''exceeding official powers''' during the 2007 Georgian demonstrations, '''as well as a police raid''' on and "seizure" of Imedi TV and other assets owned by the late tycoon Badri Patarkatsishvili, the '''embezzlement''' of GEL 9,024,367 owned by the Special State Protection Service for his personal purposes, '''exceeding official powers''' in the episode of battery of Valeri Gelashvili and '''organization''' of a grievous bodily injury, and '''exceeding official powers''' in the episode of pardon in prior agreement of the individuals tried for Sandro Girgvliani's murder.
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+The grammar of the "as well as" item strikes me as dubious, and even if grammatical, "organization" also fails to respect parallel <strike>-ing</strike> verb structure. &mdash; [[user:MaxEnt|MaxEnt]] 04:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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