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== Muhammad Military Service Record == |
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I added Muhammad's Military service record. I feel that his service record covering his 17 year of military service is notable to his article. |
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I was just made aware of this tonight, since his wife told the story at Mizzou's (University of Missouri, Columbia) campus tonight. (thurs. sept 30, at 7pm) The reason for the killings is because he was after his wife. He had kidnapped their three children, and lost the trial for custody. He then decided to go after his wife. He proclaimed that he was innocent the whole time. The day of his execution hsi children asked to speak with him, but he never contacted them, and the execution went on that night. It was later revealed the reason he didn't speak to his children is for fear of being asked the question 'why?' because it would've broken him and the facade he put up to stay confident in his belief of his innocence would have crumbled. |
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I added the dates of his service, his rank, his discharge, and his awards received. |
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== Misleadingly "Islamic" feel to article due to questionable source material == |
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All info pulled from Muhammad's US Army service record. |
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Regarding this sentence near the beginning of the article: |
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"Drawings by Malvo describe the murders as part of a "jihad" (Arabic for "struggle in the way of God")." |
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== Ethnic selection? == |
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I think this is very misleading, |
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(1.) because the the style and some of the words expressed in the source material are scarily Islamophobic, and further sources are not given in that linked article to make it seem authentic |
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(2.) The article implies the drawings were made by John Muhammad's partner after the incident and while in prison. By not including these facts in the sentence AND putting it in the very beginning of the article, it gives John Muhammad too Islamic of a flavor that he didn't even claim to have or want, at least as far as I can tell from all the other information as well as what we have already proven to know on the talk page. |
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Am I the only one who sees way too many Arabic names in the See also section with VERY little connection to the method, cause or scale of this case? Wikipedia is now part of TSA? Or do we now serve and protect? [[User:Le Grand Bleu|Le Grand Bleu]] ([[User talk:Le Grand Bleu|talk]]) 01:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC) |
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To keep the information we have in there now, it NEEDS a better source than the one provided. Notice my changes in the history that were revoked. I included a line that the information was subject to media biases, and it was removed basically saying that the fact that the source was biased is not information given by the source itself.. Okay, I understand... But let's find a better source about Malvo's drawings, until then I propose that the "jihad" reference be removed entirely, or, at the very VERY least, as supported in the reference, it should be mentioned that these drawings were supposedly found after the fact and not before, and this should be moved to elsewhere in the article. Otherwise, at it stands, it is very misleading. [[User:Sawyer207|Sawyer207]] ([[User talk:Sawyer207|talk]]) 03:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC) |
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I propose that [[John Allen Muhammed]] (J.A.M.) be merged into [[Beltway sniper attacks]]. The biography article of J.A.M. falls under [[WP:BLP1E]] & [[WP:PERP]]. J.A.M. is primarily notable for the series of events that are the subject of the article ''Beltway sniper attacks''. The size of ''Beltway sniper attacks'', is slightly greater than 50k, which is below the size that would require a [[WP:SUBARTICLE|sub-article]] per [[WP:LIMIT]]. The size of the J.A.M. article is slightly greater than 30k size; merging the J.A.M. article into the ''Beltway sniper attacks'' would not exceed the size prescribed in LIMIT.--[[User:RightCowLeftCoast|RightCowLeftCoast]] ([[User talk:RightCowLeftCoast|talk]]) 14:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC) |
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Per [[WP:MERGE]], I am notifying the involved WikiProjects of these two articles of this proposal, and leaving this notification per [[WP:CANVASS#Appropriate notification]].--[[User:RightCowLeftCoast|RightCowLeftCoast]] ([[User talk:RightCowLeftCoast|talk]]) 14:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC) |
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*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20080507163658/http://www.cnn.com:80/2008/CRIME/05/06/dc.sniper.ap/index.html to http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/06/dc.sniper.ap/index.html |
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*'''Oppose''' because, due to the articles and books that focus on this person and/or his killing partner ([[Lee Boyd Malvo]]), there's a lot more that can be added to this article; such additions, because there's not much to state that wouldn't be more about the Beltway sniper attacks, would be analysis of Muhammad's thinking and behavior; whether or not he fits the criteria of a [[serial killer]] or [[spree killer]] (or a even a combination of the two), which is touched on in the lead, is an example. And there's very likely a lot more to be written in such vein (thinking and behavior) about him and Lee Boyd Malvo in the future (yes, I know about [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]]). To me, if a merge is desirable, it would be better to merge the John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo articles together (under the title '''John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo'''). Why not propose that the Lee Boyd Malvo article also be merged? [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 19:04, 16 February 2013 (UTC) |
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*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20091111202311/http://www.governor.virginia.gov/MediaRelations/NewsReleases/viewRelease.cfm?id=1138 to http://www.governor.virginia.gov/MediaRelations/NewsReleases/viewRelease.cfm?id=1138 |
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== Serial Killer? == |
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Should he be listed as a serial killer? [[User:Barbaro Reyes Cho|Barbaro Reyes Cho]] ([[User talk:Barbaro Reyes Cho|talk]]) 02:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC) |
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Yup. And a racist [[User:Enphektid|Enphektid]] ([[User talk:Enphektid|talk]]) 03:06, 23 August 2021 (UTC) |
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Muhammad Military Service Record
[edit]I added Muhammad's Military service record. I feel that his service record covering his 17 year of military service is notable to his article.
I added the dates of his service, his rank, his discharge, and his awards received.
All info pulled from Muhammad's US Army service record.
Ethnic selection?
[edit]Am I the only one who sees way too many Arabic names in the See also section with VERY little connection to the method, cause or scale of this case? Wikipedia is now part of TSA? Or do we now serve and protect? Le Grand Bleu (talk) 01:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
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- Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20091111202311/http://www.governor.virginia.gov/MediaRelations/NewsReleases/viewRelease.cfm?id=1138 to http://www.governor.virginia.gov/MediaRelations/NewsReleases/viewRelease.cfm?id=1138
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Serial Killer?
[edit]Should he be listed as a serial killer? Barbaro Reyes Cho (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Yup. And a racist Enphektid (talk) 03:06, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
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