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Another theory is that, like in other popular songs, California (or in this case the "Hotel California") represents death. |
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:Huh? [[User:Jrincayc|Jrincayc]] 02:42, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC) |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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:I second that "Huh." I want to know in what other popular songs California represents death. 06:66, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC) |
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::I don't know that California represents death in other songs or even this song, but '''The Hotel California''' seems to me to be a logical allegory for death: "...You can check in anytime you want, but you can never leave..." Drugs make sense for this too, however. --[[User:CannotResolveSymbol|CannotResolveSymbol]]<sup>[[User talk:CannotResolveSymbol|T]]</sup> 04:52, 12 October 2005 (UTC) |
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I suggest calling this an allegory rather than a metaphor. Any seconds? [[User:Theaterfreak64|Theaterfreak64]] 06:57, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC) |
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CannotResolveSymbol, I think the song actually goes "..You can check '''out''' any time you like, but you can never leave..." I always thought it was about a brothel, and everyone I spoke to agreed. I am surprised to find absolutely nothing about this idea here. [[User:Carter Somerville|Carter Somerville]] 05:02, 30 November 2005 (UTC) |
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==Personnel== |
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Would it be better if the personnel was narrowed down further, with Glenn on 'acoustic 12-string rhythm guitar', Don F on 'electric 12 and 6 string lead guitar', and Joe on 'electric lead guitar'? [[Special:Contributions/106.68.153.211|106.68.153.211]] ([[User talk:106.68.153.211|talk]]) 16:04, 11 April 2017 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2017 == |
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:"Check out" is IMHO a reference to suicide. It would fit with decadent rock-scene allegory. |
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==Here's a thought== |
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In the "Recordings" section, there is the phrase: |
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The song can easylky be seen as a drug use methaphore. ''In the master's chambers'' sounds like the Master of puppets by Metallica, don't you think?<br> |
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<font color=red>That is genius, if Master of Puppets did not come out almost 10 years after this song. </font> |
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"the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because of the length of song which is over six minutes long, far exceeding the standard length of songs played by radio stations" |
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== Reggae cover == |
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This feels clumsy. I'd like to suggest that it is amended to: |
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I have downloaded a song that purports to be a Bob Marley cover of "Hotel California", and which does rather sound like his voice, though not really his style. Can anyone confirm that he has covered the song? Anybody know of any reggae covers by somebody who could be mistaken for Bob Marley? [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] 05:06, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC) |
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:YES YOU ARE ALMOST RIGHT IT IS IN FACT ZIGGY MARLEY COVERING THE SONG HOTEL CALIFORNIA. NOTICE THE SUBTLENESS IN HIS VOICE AS WITH HIS FATHERS.ALSO IT WAS IN A WOODSTOCK ARTICLE. LELLOW@AOL.COM |
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"the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because, at over six minutes, its duration far exceeds that of the songs generally played by radio stations" [[User:Stephenallsopp|Stephenallsopp]] ([[User talk:Stephenallsopp|talk]]) 11:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::LELLOW@AOL.COM --- |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Jd22292|jd22292]] <span style="background-color:#368ec9">(Jalen D. Folf)</span> ([[User talk:Jd02022092|talk]]) 17:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC) |
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::I see that you did some research in your answer below... |
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"(UTC)YES YOU ARE ALMOST RIGHT IT IS IN FACT ZIGGY MARLEY COVERING THE SONG HOTEL CALIFORNIA. NOTICE THE SUBTLENESS IN HIS VOICE AS WITH HIS FATHERS.ALSO IT WAS IN A WOODSTOCK ARTICLE. LELLOW@AOL.COM" |
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However, I also googled and found the page you are referring to. No where in the page could I find a direct statement that Ziggy Marley covered this song. Did I miss something? I am most concerned because if you google "Ziggy Marley Hotel California" the google summary returns.. |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2017 == |
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::"Ziggy Marley led a sprawling 14-piece band, the Melody Makers, ... As Henley sang in "Hotel California,'' "We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.'' ..." |
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The chord progression for the chorus is listed as "G–D–Em–Bm–G–D–Em–F♯". I believe the 3rd chord in that progression is actually an F#. http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/www.xguitar.com/guitar-tabs/eagles/hotel_california/hotel_california.txt |
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Good catch. The source already cited in the relevant passage confirms your contention (as does a quick listen). [[User:Rivertorch|<span style="color:#339933;">'''Rivertorch'''</span>]]<small><small>[[Special:Contributions/Rivertorch|<sup style="color:#FF0066;">FIRE</sup>]][[User talk:Rivertorch|<sub style="color:#0066FF;">WATER</sub>]]</small></small> 13:45, 10 August 2017 (UTC) |
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== Semi-Protected edit request on 05 September 2017: Error in chorus chord progression == |
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::So did you post your answer based on the summary from google? If so I am not sure this is 100% proof that it was Ziggy Marley that did this song (although I will say it is compelling evidence). bh |
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:::(moved people's comments around to make this easier to read) I forgot that I had asked this question. I have done some more research and decided it was more likely [[Majek Fashek]] -- unfortunately I don't remember what gave me that idea. I have to say it doesn't really sound like Ziggy, but I don't listen to a whole lot of him. [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] 05:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC) |
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The only cover of hotel california version reggae is from '''Majek Fashek'''. |
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The recent edit to the chorus chord progression resulting in the updated progression of G-D-F#-Bm-G-D-Em-F# introduced an error to the Roman numeral representation of the chorus chord progression. The F# should be represented by "III" (the Roman numeral 3) rather than "ii" (lower case Roman numeral 2, which represented Em in the earlier version of the chord progression). [[User:Jkcncwiki|Jkcncwiki]] ([[User talk:Jkcncwiki|talk]]) 14:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC) |
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I just listened to both versions and the purported Bob Marley version is most definitely not the same as Majek Fashek's version [[User:Bastique|<font size="+1" color="#008800">'''<span class="Unicode">ℬ</span>'''</font>astique]]<font style="color:#FF72E3;"><span class="Unicode">▼</span></font>'''<sup>[[User talk:Bastique|par<span class="Unicode">ℓ</span>er]]</sup>'''<font color="#FF0000" size="+1"><span class="Unicode">♥</span></font><sup>'''[[Special:Contributions/Bastique|voir]]'''</sup><font color="#5500FF" size="+1">'''<span class="Unicode">♑</span>'''</font> 18:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC) |
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Track 12 of the album "Reggae Rocks: The Tide Is High" (Bongo Boy, 2001) is Edi Fitzroy's version of 'Hotel California'. I'm pretty sure this clears up the mystery! Why is it that every unkown reggae track gets attributed to Bob?? |
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::I came across a ska version of hotel california, supposedly by reel big fish. When I saw this discussion, I assumed you were all refering to this version because ska music has reggae stlye guitar rhythms. But, in response to the previous comment saying this is Edi Fitzroys version, I have found a sample of this song on this page: http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1833203/a/Reggae+Rocks:+The+Tide+Is+High.htm |
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::and this is a different version to the one I have. |
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Hello fellow Wikipedians, |
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::This ska version has brass playing the melody of the chorus, as opposed to vocals. I must say, it does sound a LOT like something reel big fish would do. Can anyone confirm it is by them, or does anyone know who it actually IS by? - Mat |
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Well... I've heard that before, some friends say it's Bob, but listen carefully please! it's not him... You should listen to his first songs and then you can agree with me. I hope not to be wrong. Thelawgiver2003@hotmail.com |
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== some doubts == |
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I could agree with both theories, the one about the drug addiction's metafor and the one about the brothel, despite, in my opinion the second one is too obvious. Anyway, I'd like too know the meaning of a part of the song, which I think would help... |
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"And she said ’we are all just prisoners here, of our own device’ |
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And in the master’s chambers, |
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They gathered for the feast |
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The stab it with their steely knives, |
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But they just can’t kill the beast" |
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== Seems the core of this song was taken from [[Jethro Tull (band)]] == |
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What do mean "the beast" and "our own device" in this context? |
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I don't have the guts to take on the fans and put it in the composition section. The Eagles even toured with Tull and listening to the Tull song 'We Used To Know' is where they got the foundations of Hotel California it seems. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xny0Uj4--tk</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EBQ-ljFlt4</ref> |
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See Also http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=4793 |
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[[User:Reaper7|Reaper7]] ([[User talk:Reaper7|talk]]) 21:55, 10 February 2018 (UTC) |
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Something cool Found from the link you provided is that i guy clams the whole album is a concept album |
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I have a very interesting little story for all of you in regards to this song and it's meaning. About 15 years ago, I was taking an English class in University, and the and the professor of the class had an assignment for us. He handed out a sheet of paper face down to everyone. When we turned it over, we were told to write what we thought the song was about. He added, however, that the song was NOT about a cult so don't even write that. So, basically almost every member of the class then proceeded along the next route....the drugs/addiction metaphors. When we were done, he proceeded to tell us what the song, and the corresponding album were ACTUALLY about. It seems our prof had, at one time, lived in the California area and was very good friends with a certain drummer named Don Henley. Don explained the story behind the song to him, and said he was amused at the wide varieties of interpretations the song had developed over time. According to the source, The "Hotel California" is actually, L.A. itself. The song and album take you on a trip though the music industry in L.A. in the late sixties early seventies, when agents and studios controlled artists like puppets. Back in the late sixties, 1969 to be exact, there was a major onslaught of artists being signed left, right and center, and artisit at the time were often known to basically "sell their soul" to a record company executive in order to get a recording contract. Many times these artists were given little if anything for their music, and thus ended up basically a victom to their love of music. Just imagine the scene at the time, it's late 60's, you are on your way to L.A. to strike it big with dreams of glamour and fame...and you basically are prepared to sell your soul of you have to to attain it. I must admit, when I first heard this explaination, I was a little skeptical...but trust me....listen to the WHOLE album again, start to finish and keep this definition in mind when you do it. Every song ties together in one big story, finishing off with the Last Resort which gives you a clear summery of the whole album and idea. I don't deny that drugs and addiction have a lot to do with the lifestyle and results of the quest for fame. All I ask is to keep an open mind and think of "The Hotel California" as L.A., and you may be surprised. |
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== more drug references == |
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:The music was written entirely by Don Felder who was not yet in the band when the Eagles and Jethro Tull toured together. So that part doesn't work. [[User:Bob Caldwell CSL|Bob Caldwell CSL]] ([[User talk:Bob Caldwell CSL|talk]]) 14:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC) |
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==Gold Record== |
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I've seen "stab it with their steely knives" claimed to be referring to injecting heroin. The image that comes to mind for me is chopping cocaine with a razor on a mirror. "The beast" is then cocaine, (less literally, cocaine addiction). "Prisoners of our own device" -- we brought it on ourselves. |
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"Three months after its first release, the single was certified Gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), representing one million copies shipped." |
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== "Steely Knives" == |
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''The line "They stab it with their steely knives but they just can't kill the beast" is a reference to Steely Dan. They shared the same manager and had a friendly rivalry. The year before, Steely Dan included the line "Turn up The Eagles, the neighbors are listening" on the song "Everything You Did."'' [http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1121] [[User:Dbergan|David Bergan]] 18:49, 14 February 2006 (UTC) |
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A Gold Record is 500,000 sales. |
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https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/about-awards/ |
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I heard that it could be about drug rehab...not sure, could be about drugs, drug rehab, or the whole experience. {{unsigned|134.121.254.188}} |
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: It was one million at the time. The certified units has changed over the years. For example, gold for digital single was only 100,000 before 2006. [[User:Hzh|Hzh]] ([[User talk:Hzh|talk]]) 01:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC) |
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:When I heard it for the first several times, I was sure it was about drugs. I'm willing to take the band member's word for it, though, and say that it's about 1960s California hedonism. -[[User:Theaterfreak64|Theaterfreak64]] 06:13, 3 March 2006 (UTC) |
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== "Colitas" == |
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Hi- I work the Digital Marketing for Don Felder and he simply would like to update his photo. I've just uploaded the new photo to WikiCommons. Links below. |
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The explanation of "colitas" as marijuana buds seems plausible enough, and is [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_001 elsewhere] attributed to "Eagles management honcho Irving Azoff." But I just discovered that it's also [http://www.cigarbid.com/auction/lot.cfm?lotID=332444 a brand of cigar], which raises a whole other possibility! |
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:Yep... at the time, [[Dominican Republic|Dominican]] made Colitas were a cheap (and legally distributable) alternative to [[Cuba|Cuban]] [[Cohiba]] cigars... [[User:136.145.192.75|136.145.192.75]] 17:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC) |
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[[File:Don Felder.jpg|thumb|Don Felder Hotel California]] |
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==External Links== |
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Don_Felder.jpg |
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This is a personal opinion, however - I don't really see the significance of the "Compulsary License Infoo" in the External links, as it does not seem to be particular to Hotel California. [elynnia] |
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Please let us update the photo. It is harmless. Thank you! [[User:Mattwcoh|Mattwcoh]] ([[User talk:Mattwcoh|talk]]) 17:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC) |
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== drugs or hell == |
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{{not done}} - Which Image needs doing {{u|Mattwcoh}}? [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]]<sup>[[User talk:RhinosF1|(chat)]]</sup><small><sub>[[User:RhinosF1/StatusMonitor|(status)]][[Special:Contributions/RhinosF1|(contribs)]]</sub></small> 17:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC) |
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== Galgalatz's 1970s Top 100 == |
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at first I believed that the song was about hell and death, wich does make sense in many places. But there is overwhelming evidence for the song being about drug usage. I don't think that there really is a definate answer to what "hotel" california means, I think it is referring to both drugs and Hell. |
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Hotel California ranked the third place in 2019 [[Galgalatz]]'s 1970s Top 100 chart <ref>{{cite web|url=https://glz.co.il/%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%92%D7%9C%D7%A6/%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA/%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%A2%D7%93-%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%A8-%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%94-70|title=מצביעים מחדש למצעד עשור ה-70|work=Galgalatz|accessdate=17 August 2019|language=he}}</ref>. We should add it to the charts' paragraph in the article. [[User:Galgalaz2019|Galgalaz2019]] ([[User talk:Galgalaz2019|talk]]) 09:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC) |
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: {{not done}} I'm afraid this chart is on [[WP:BADCHARTS]] due to being a single network chart and incorporating user voting. --[[User:Muhandes|Muhandes]] ([[User talk:Muhandes|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2019 (UTC) |
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== The song has inspired a novel - worth including? == |
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==Sopranos reference== |
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The last song to the premiere episode to Season 3 was not "Hotel California". It was "High Fidelity" by Elvis Costello. |
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I don't have the rights to edit this entry, so I thought I'd just mention the Ray Sullivan novel by the same name which posits a hypothetical island where old rock stars go when they've had enough of mainstream life. It's a good novel, btw. Link is: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K7XC5BZ <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Deceangli|Deceangli]] ([[User talk:Deceangli#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Deceangli|contribs]]) 10:25, 18 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Lead Vocal == |
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:A self-published book by a non-notable author is trivial. - <span style="color:#D70270;background-color:white;">Sum</span><span style="color:#734F96;background-color:white;">mer</span><span style="color:#0038A8;background-color:white;">PhD</span><sup>[[User talk:SummerPhDv2.0|v2.0]]</sup> 16:14, 18 October 2019 (UTC) |
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I was just a little curious as to who sings lead vocals on the song. {{User|75pickup}} |
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:That's Don Henley singing the lead vocals. Joe Walsh and Don Felder play a big guitar solo during the second half of the song. —[[User:Bill Conrad|Bill Conrad]] 16:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC) |
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== Unusual Recordings of this Song == |
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A few years ago, a pair of ''Hassidic'' singers swept Israel in a local reality show. Early in the contest they sang Hotel California. I thought somebody might find this interesting and pretty cool, actually. |
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==Alternative Interpretations== |
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Can someone back up the currently shown "Alternative Interpretation" on the album title song [[Hotel_California_(song)]] page which involves Alien Abduction??!? I've never heard this theory before, cannot find references, and seems to be just as valid as my "joke" theory that I came up with ten years ago (see [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_001 Cecil Adams "Straight Dope" article]) involving a fireworks factory blowing up! (and at least my joke theory has web references and is in print (Cecil Adams' "Triumph of the Straight Dope" ISBN 0-345-42008-X) |
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https://www.mako.co.il/tv-the-next-star/video?subChannelId=c1c7d52c20902410VgnVCM2000002a0c10acRCRD&vcmid=b5f1828f871e1410VgnVCM2000002a0c10acRCRD |
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:Perhaps this Alien Abduction "Alternative Interpretation" is just another joke by another wikipedian, but I don't think it should be listed on the song page unless there are some references to back it up. [[User:Dzubint|Dzubint]] 16:05, 3 December 2006 (UTC) |
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:Just an addition, the Alien Abduction interpretation was done on 01:29, 20 November 2006 by 72.136.202.31...after looking into it further, I'd actually like to see it deleted completely because it seems to have been made up by the wikipedian and not based on anything except their own personal feelings. [[User:Dzubint|Dzubint]] 21:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC) |
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Steve <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sweisberg|Sweisberg]] ([[User talk:Sweisberg#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sweisberg|contribs]]) 10:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Removed the entire section per [[WP:OR|Wikipedia - no original research]]. Some interesting points, but a personal website or blog is the place for such speculations, unless sourced properly. I've cleaned up the article a bit more as well, put some citation tags where they're needed, etc. You know, you guys can edit this stuff too .. you have just as much right as the person who added this stuff in the first place. :) .... anyway, cleaned this up a bit and added it to my watch list. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 00:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC) |
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==Rock== |
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please change ((Rock)) to ((Rock music|Rock)) |
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== Soft rock? == |
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The claim that it is the song is "soft rock" is sourced to an article that mentions it as a throw-away remark in a minor South African newspaper, I don't see how this can be used as credible source for the genre of the song. I think simply listing it as "rock" for its genre is good enough - e.g. here - [https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/soldonsong/songlibrary/hotelcalifornia.shtml], any other qualifier is superfluous, and the "soft rock" should therefore be removed. [[User:Hzh|Hzh]] ([[User talk:Hzh|talk]]) 20:19, 21 April 2022 (UTC) |
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Personnel
[edit]Would it be better if the personnel was narrowed down further, with Glenn on 'acoustic 12-string rhythm guitar', Don F on 'electric 12 and 6 string lead guitar', and Joe on 'electric lead guitar'? 106.68.153.211 (talk) 16:04, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
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In the "Recordings" section, there is the phrase:
"the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because of the length of song which is over six minutes long, far exceeding the standard length of songs played by radio stations"
This feels clumsy. I'd like to suggest that it is amended to:
"the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because, at over six minutes, its duration far exceeds that of the songs generally played by radio stations" Stephenallsopp (talk) 11:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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The chord progression for the chorus is listed as "G–D–Em–Bm–G–D–Em–F♯". I believe the 3rd chord in that progression is actually an F#. http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/www.xguitar.com/guitar-tabs/eagles/hotel_california/hotel_california.txt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan asc (talk • contribs) 9:58, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- Done Good catch. The source already cited in the relevant passage confirms your contention (as does a quick listen). RivertorchFIREWATER 13:45, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Semi-Protected edit request on 05 September 2017: Error in chorus chord progression
[edit]The recent edit to the chorus chord progression resulting in the updated progression of G-D-F#-Bm-G-D-Em-F# introduced an error to the Roman numeral representation of the chorus chord progression. The F# should be represented by "III" (the Roman numeral 3) rather than "ii" (lower case Roman numeral 2, which represented Em in the earlier version of the chord progression). Jkcncwiki (talk) 14:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hi - I'll make copyedits as I go (please revert if I inadvertently change the meaning) and jot queries below Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Casliber: So what's up with the review?
- Got sidetracked. Will get onto it soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:04, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
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and gave Don Henley and Glenn Frey each the resulting demo cassette. - "a" cassette each surely?actually "a resulting cassette" sounds odd too. "a copy of the recording"?- I fixed that. I think the song can be promoted now, if there aren't any other issues you feel need to be addressed.
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who had replaced Bernie Leadon who left in 1975 - sounds odd with the two "who"s
...and the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because, at over six minutes, its duration far exceeds that of the songs generally played by radio stations- "exceeds" should be in past tense as everything else is in the sentence. Also "as a single" redundant as implied by the first part of the sentence.
- Can "B Dorian" be linked anywhere?
Although the band members and Phillips met to discuss the project, tension between the two parties ended the pre-development deal for the film- left hanging...can this be elaborated upon?- @Casliber: I fixed all the problems you discussed and found no Wikipedia article for "B Dorian".
- Earwigs looks ok, first one is a mirror, and others are inflated scores due to quotes. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
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Seems the core of this song was taken from Jethro Tull (band)
[edit]I don't have the guts to take on the fans and put it in the composition section. The Eagles even toured with Tull and listening to the Tull song 'We Used To Know' is where they got the foundations of Hotel California it seems. [1][2]
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References
- The music was written entirely by Don Felder who was not yet in the band when the Eagles and Jethro Tull toured together. So that part doesn't work. Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 14:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Gold Record
[edit]"Three months after its first release, the single was certified Gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), representing one million copies shipped."
A Gold Record is 500,000 sales.
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/about-awards/
- It was one million at the time. The certified units has changed over the years. For example, gold for digital single was only 100,000 before 2006. Hzh (talk) 01:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Hi- I work the Digital Marketing for Don Felder and he simply would like to update his photo. I've just uploaded the new photo to WikiCommons. Links below.
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Please let us update the photo. It is harmless. Thank you! Mattwcoh (talk) 17:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC) Not done - Which Image needs doing Mattwcoh? RhinosF1(chat)(status)(contribs) 17:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Galgalatz's 1970s Top 100
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Hotel California ranked the third place in 2019 Galgalatz's 1970s Top 100 chart [1]. We should add it to the charts' paragraph in the article. Galgalaz2019 (talk) 09:41, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done I'm afraid this chart is on WP:BADCHARTS due to being a single network chart and incorporating user voting. --Muhandes (talk) 13:24, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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- ^ "מצביעים מחדש למצעד עשור ה-70". Galgalatz (in Hebrew). Retrieved 17 August 2019.
The song has inspired a novel - worth including?
[edit]I don't have the rights to edit this entry, so I thought I'd just mention the Ray Sullivan novel by the same name which posits a hypothetical island where old rock stars go when they've had enough of mainstream life. It's a good novel, btw. Link is: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K7XC5BZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deceangli (talk • contribs) 10:25, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- A self-published book by a non-notable author is trivial. - SummerPhDv2.0 16:14, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Unusual Recordings of this Song
[edit]A few years ago, a pair of Hassidic singers swept Israel in a local reality show. Early in the contest they sang Hotel California. I thought somebody might find this interesting and pretty cool, actually.
Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweisberg (talk • contribs) 10:05, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Rock
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please change ((Rock)) to ((Rock music|Rock))
- Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:11, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Soft rock?
[edit]The claim that it is the song is "soft rock" is sourced to an article that mentions it as a throw-away remark in a minor South African newspaper, I don't see how this can be used as credible source for the genre of the song. I think simply listing it as "rock" for its genre is good enough - e.g. here - [1], any other qualifier is superfluous, and the "soft rock" should therefore be removed. Hzh (talk) 20:19, 21 April 2022 (UTC)