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'''Pretty Loud''' is a [[Romani people|Roma]] rap group based in [[Zemun]], [[Serbia]], advocating for women's empowerment in the Romani community.<ref name="AP 6-22-21">{{cite news |last=Gec |first=Jovana |date=June 22, 2021 |title=Serbian Roma girl band sings for women's empowerment |url=https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2021/06/22/serbian-roma-girl-band-sings-for-womens-empowerment.html |agency=[[Associated Press]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> The group formed in 2014, when the all-female members started singing together as part of the [[Non-governmental organization|NGO]] educational and social program GRUBB (Gypsy Roma Urban Balkan Beats). GRUBB's goal is to help young Roma take their futures into their own hands, to stay in school and get an education.<ref>{{cite news |last=Kožul |first=Dejan |date=March 19, 2021 |title=Pretty Loud: We Don't Have A State, We Have The Whole World |url=https://kosovotwopointzero.com/en/pretty-loud-we-have-the-whole-world-not-just-our-country/ |work=Kosovo 2.0 |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |author=<!--Staff writer(s)/no by-line.--> |date=February 26, 2021 |title=Mlade,Hrabre Žene Romkinje |trans-title=Young, Brave Roma Women |url=https://romaworld.rs/mladehrabre-zene-romkinje/?fbclid=IwAR1T3t7xRaz9_kJdYD69wqszOcXzb71ag3s3mypEIxPG9xoc-obTrthMnRY |language=Serbian|work=Romaworld |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> According to one of Pretty Loud's members, "We want to stop the early marriages [...] we want the girls themselves, and not their parents, to decide whether they want to marry or not. We want every woman to have the right to be heard, to have her dreams and to be able to fulfil them, to be equal".<ref name="AP 6-22-21"/> The group's music blends traditional [[Romani music]] with contemporary rap and they sing in [[Romani language|Romani]], [[Serbian language|Serbian]] and English.<ref name=Jovanovic>{{cite news|url=https://balkaninsight.com/2021/04/09/from-belgrade-to-london-roma-girl-band-sings-for-female-empowerment/|title=From Belgrade to London, Roma Girl Band Sings for Female Empowerment|first=Dragana|last=Jovanovic|publisher=[[Balkan Insight]]|date=April 9, 2021|accessdate=July 3, 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |last=Nesic |first=Milica |date=May 12, 2020 |title=Hrabre i samostalne: ženski romski bend Pretty Loud |trans-title=Brave and independent: female Roma band Pretty Loud |url=https://www.dw.com/bs/hrabre-i-samostalne-%C5%BEenski-romski-bend-pretty-loud/a-55831111 |language=Serbian |work=[[Deutsche Welle]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref>
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'''[[Pretty Loud]]''' is a [[Romani people|Roma]] rap group based in [[Zemun]], [[Serbia]] advocating for women's empowerment in the Romani community.<ref name="AP 6-22-21">{{cite news |last=Gec |first=Jovana |date=June 22, 2021 |title=Serbian Roma girl band sings for women’s empowerment |url=https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2021/06/22/serbian-roma-girl-band-sings-for-womens-empowerment.html |work=[[Associated Press]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> The group formed in 2014, when the all-female members started singing together as part of the NGO social program [[GRUBB]] (Gypsy Roman Urban Balkan Beats). GRUBB's goal is to help young Roma women take their futures into their own hands, get an education, avoid the child marriages that are the fate of many young Roma girls, and get the same rights as Roma men.<ref>{{cite news |last=Kožul |first=Dejan |date=March 19, 2021 |title=Pretty Loud: We Don't Have A State, We Have The Whole World |url=https://kosovotwopointzero.com/en/pretty-loud-we-have-the-whole-world-not-just-our-country/ |work=Kosovo 2.0 |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |author=<!--Staff writer(s)/no by-line.--> |date=February 26, 2021 |title=Mlade,Hrabre Žene Romkinje |trans-title=Young, Brave Roma Women |url=https://romaworld.rs/mladehrabre-zene-romkinje/?fbclid=IwAR1T3t7xRaz9_kJdYD69wqszOcXzb71ag3s3mypEIxPG9xoc-obTrthMnRY |language=Serbian|work=Romaworld |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> The group's music blends traditional Roma music with contemporary rap and they sing in Roma, Serbian and English.<ref name=Jovanovic>{{cite news|url=https://balkaninsight.com/2021/04/09/from-belgrade-to-london-roma-girl-band-sings-for-female-empowerment/|title=From Belgrade to London, Roma Girl Band Sings for Female Empowerment|first=Dragana|last=Jovanovic|publisher=[[Balkan Insight]]|date=April 9, 2021|accessdate=July 3, 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |last=Nesic |first=Milica |date=May 12, 2020 |title=Hrabre i samostalne: ženski romski bend Pretty Loud |trans-title=Brave and independent: female Roma band Pretty Loud |url=https://www.dw.com/bs/hrabre-i-samostalne-%C5%BEenski-romski-bend-pretty-loud/a-55831111 |language=Serbian |work=[[Deutsche Welle]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref>


The group has done a collaborative unit with the [[London College of Fashion]]<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/london-college-of-fashion/people/pretty-loud |title=Collaborative Unit Project with Pretty Loud |author=<!--Not stated--> |date=2021 |website=arts.ac.uk |publisher=[[London College of Fashion]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref>, and in 2020 they participated in the [[Women of the World Festival]] in London.<ref>{{cite news |last=Kostic |first=Milica Milojevic |date=April 8, 2021 |title=Ženski romski bend "Pretty loud" se muzikom bori za obrazovanje Roma i protiv dečijih brakova |trans-title=The Roma women's band "Pretty loud" fights with music for Roma education and against child marriages |url=https://www.juznevesti.com/Drushtvo/Zenski-romski-bend-Pretty-loud-se-muzikom-bori-za-obrazovanje-Roma-i-protiv-decijihbrakova.sr.html |language=Serbian |work=Južne Vesti |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> During this festival they performed in the Royal Albert Hall.<ref name=Jovanovic/>
The group has previously collaborated with the [[London College of Fashion]],<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/london-college-of-fashion/people/pretty-loud |title=Collaborative Unit Project with Pretty Loud |author=<!--Not stated--> |date=2021 |website=arts.ac.uk |publisher=[[London College of Fashion]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> and in 2020 they participated in the [[Women of the World Festival]] in London.<ref>{{cite news |last=Kostic |first=Milica Milojevic |date=April 8, 2021 |title=Ženski romski bend "Pretty loud" se muzikom bori za obrazovanje Roma i protiv dečijih brakova |trans-title=The Roma women's band "Pretty loud" fights with music for Roma education and against child marriages |url=https://www.juznevesti.com/Drushtvo/Zenski-romski-bend-Pretty-loud-se-muzikom-bori-za-obrazovanje-Roma-i-protiv-decijihbrakova.sr.html |language=Serbian |work=Južne Vesti |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> During this festival they performed in the [[Royal Festival Hall]].<ref name=Jovanovic/> Members of the group teach music and dance workshops held by GRUBB.<ref name="AP 6-22-21" />


==History==
==History==
The group was started in 2014 in the Serbian town of [[Zemun]] as an offshoot of the GRUBB program and the members involved used the band in school appearances to educate children, along with holding workshops for children to teach them dance, music, and acting.<ref>{{cite news |last=Dejanović |first=Marija |date=February 23, 2021 |title=Nova.rs u romskoj mahali s bendom Pretty loud |trans-title=Nova.rs in the Roma neighborhood with the band Pretty loud |url=https://nova.rs/zabava/showbiz/video-intervju-nova-rs-u-romskoj-mahali-s-bendom-pretty-loud/ |language=Serbian |work=[[Nova.rs]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> One of the first members was Zlata Marinkovic, who pushed the group toward using rap and hip hop as the best way to openly discuss the issues in their communities and to help fight discrimination and improve education levels within the Roma community.<ref>{{cite news |last=Milićević |first=Violeta |date=March 27, 2021 |title=PRETTY LOUD, PRVI ŽENSKI ROMSKI BEND IZ SRBIJE : One se muzikom bore za ženska prava i protiv diskriminacije |trans-title=PRETTY LOUD, THE FIRST WOMEN'S ROMA BAND FROM SERBIA: They fight for women's rights and discrimination with music |url=https://niskevesti.rs/pretty-loud-prvi-zenski-romski-bend-iz-srbije-one-se-muzikom-bore-za-zenska-prava-i-protiv-diskriminacije/ |language=Serbian |work=Niške Vesti |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref>
The group was started in 2014 in the Serbian capital, [[Belgrade]], as part of the GRUBB organisation and the members involved used the band in school appearances to spread their positive message, along with holding workshops for children to teach them dance, music, and acting.<ref>{{cite news |last=Dejanović |first=Marija |date=February 23, 2021 |title=Nova.rs u romskoj mahali s bendom Pretty loud |trans-title=Nova.rs in the Roma neighborhood with the band Pretty loud |url=https://nova.rs/zabava/showbiz/video-intervju-nova-rs-u-romskoj-mahali-s-bendom-pretty-loud/ |language=Serbian |work=[[Nova.rs]] |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> The idea for the band arose at artistic workshops held by GRUBB, where Pretty Loud members were part of the GRUBB Show and decided to start their own all-girl group.<ref name="AP 6-22-21" /> Two of the first members were Zlata Ristic and Silvia Sinani, who encouraged the group toward using [[rap]] and [[hip hop music|hip hop]] as the best way to openly discuss the issues in their communities and to help fight discrimination and improve education levels within the Roma community.<ref>{{cite news |last=Milićević |first=Violeta |date=March 27, 2021 |title=PRETTY LOUD, PRVI ŽENSKI ROMSKI BEND IZ SRBIJE : One se muzikom bore za ženska prava i protiv diskriminacije |trans-title=PRETTY LOUD, THE FIRST WOMEN'S ROMA BAND FROM SERBIA: They fight for women's rights and discrimination with music |url=https://niskevesti.rs/pretty-loud-prvi-zenski-romski-bend-iz-srbije-one-se-muzikom-bore-za-zenska-prava-i-protiv-diskriminacije/ |language=Serbian |work=Niške Vesti |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref> Band member Silvia Sinani recalled the band's name arose from the notion that Roma women are not typically very loud.<ref name="AP 6-22-21" />


The members of Pretty Loud include a 19-year-old law student, a single mom forced into a child marriage but now raising her child on her own, a family of sisters whose father lives in Germany with his new family, and whose mother abandoned them (they now live happily with their grandparents, who "gave them the freedom to make their own life choices").<ref name="DW 2-18-21">{{cite news |author=<!--Staff writer(s)/no by-line.--> |title=Roma band in Serbia raps for women's rights |url=https://www.dw.com/en/roma-band-in-serbia-raps-for-womens-rights/av-56584103 |work=[[Deutsche Welle]] |date=February 18, 2021 |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |last=Petkovic |first=Milana |date=February 5, 2021 |title=Prvi ženski romski bend u svetu i to iz Srbije: Želimo da devojke prestanu da misle kako moraju da ćute pred muškarcima |trans-title=The first female Roma band in the world from Serbia: We want girls to stop thinking they have to keep quiet in front of men |language=Serbian |url=https://noizz.rs/big-stories/intervju-sa-zenskim-romskim-bendom-pretty-loud/bs8w1j0 |work=Noizz Magazine |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref>
The members of Pretty Loud include a 19-year-old law student, a young single mother, schoolgirls and young professionals, all who live in challenging environments within Roma settlements.<ref name="DW 2-18-21">{{cite news |author=<!--Staff writer(s)/no by-line.--> |title=Roma band in Serbia raps for women's rights |url=https://www.dw.com/en/roma-band-in-serbia-raps-for-womens-rights/av-56584103 |work=[[Deutsche Welle]] |date=February 18, 2021 |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |last=Petkovic |first=Milana |date=February 5, 2021 |title=Prvi ženski romski bend u svetu i to iz Srbije: Želimo da devojke prestanu da misle kako moraju da ćute pred muškarcima |trans-title=The first female Roma band in the world from Serbia: We want girls to stop thinking they have to keep quiet in front of men |language=Serbian |url=https://noizz.rs/big-stories/intervju-sa-zenskim-romskim-bendom-pretty-loud/bs8w1j0 |work=Noizz Magazine |access-date=July 3, 2021}}</ref>

== Awards and recognition ==
In 2021 they won the "Bring the Noize" award from the BeFem feminist cultural center in Belgrade for advancing struggle of Roma women.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Bring the Noize 2021|url=http://www.befem.org/bring-the-noize/bring-the-noize-2021/|access-date=July 5, 2021|website=Befem – Kultura i akcija|language=sr-RS}}</ref>
In their interview for Croatian portal VoxFemiae, they stated that although they were recognised in their community and had street credibility, they still experience discrimination.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Ženska romska grupa 'Pretty Loud' glasno u borbi za ravnopravnost – VoxFeminae|url=https://voxfeminae.net/kultura/zenska-romska-grupa-pretty-loud-glasno-u-borbi-za-ravnopravnost/|access-date=July 5, 2021|website=voxfeminae.net}}</ref> In an interview for Kosovo 2.0 they mention that learning English is important for them to expand their performance options internationally.<ref>{{Cite web|date=March 19, 2021|title=Pretty Loud: We don't have a state, we have the whole world – Kosovo 2.0Kosovo 2.0|url=https://kosovotwopointzero.com/en/pretty-loud-we-have-the-whole-world-not-just-our-country/|access-date=July 5, 2021|website=Kosovo 2.0}}</ref> For the Turkish national news agency that called them the first Roma female band, they stated that they were hopeful that others would follow up on their work and that they would make it easier for next bands to develop.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Prvi ženski romski bend na svetu "Pretty Loud": Muzikom za ravnopravnost i bolje sutra|url=https://www.aa.com.tr/ba/kultura-i-umjetnost/prvi-ženski-romski-bend-na-svetu-pretty-loud-muzikom-za-ravnopravnost-i-bolje-sutra/2183316|access-date=July 5, 2021|website=www.aa.com.tr}}</ref>


== References ==
== References ==
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== External links ==
== External links ==
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXvrihpP7TU Coverage by Al Jazeera Balkans TV]
*[https://www.facebook.com/prettyloudmusic Facebook page]
*[https://www.facebook.com/prettyloudmusic Facebook page]
*[https://www.wearegrubb.com/news GRUBB]
*[https://www.wearegrubb.com/news GRUBB]


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Latest revision as of 15:58, 28 October 2024

"Pretty Loud" interviewed by Južne Vesti Serbian news in 2021

Pretty Loud is a Roma rap group based in Zemun, Serbia, advocating for women's empowerment in the Romani community.[1] The group formed in 2014, when the all-female members started singing together as part of the NGO educational and social program GRUBB (Gypsy Roma Urban Balkan Beats). GRUBB's goal is to help young Roma take their futures into their own hands, to stay in school and get an education.[2][3] According to one of Pretty Loud's members, "We want to stop the early marriages [...] we want the girls themselves, and not their parents, to decide whether they want to marry or not. We want every woman to have the right to be heard, to have her dreams and to be able to fulfil them, to be equal".[1] The group's music blends traditional Romani music with contemporary rap and they sing in Romani, Serbian and English.[4][5]

The group has previously collaborated with the London College of Fashion,[6] and in 2020 they participated in the Women of the World Festival in London.[7] During this festival they performed in the Royal Festival Hall.[4] Members of the group teach music and dance workshops held by GRUBB.[1]

History

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The group was started in 2014 in the Serbian capital, Belgrade, as part of the GRUBB organisation and the members involved used the band in school appearances to spread their positive message, along with holding workshops for children to teach them dance, music, and acting.[8] The idea for the band arose at artistic workshops held by GRUBB, where Pretty Loud members were part of the GRUBB Show and decided to start their own all-girl group.[1] Two of the first members were Zlata Ristic and Silvia Sinani, who encouraged the group toward using rap and hip hop as the best way to openly discuss the issues in their communities and to help fight discrimination and improve education levels within the Roma community.[9] Band member Silvia Sinani recalled the band's name arose from the notion that Roma women are not typically very loud.[1]

The members of Pretty Loud include a 19-year-old law student, a young single mother, schoolgirls and young professionals, all who live in challenging environments within Roma settlements.[10][11]

Awards and recognition

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In 2021 they won the "Bring the Noize" award from the BeFem feminist cultural center in Belgrade for advancing struggle of Roma women.[12] In their interview for Croatian portal VoxFemiae, they stated that although they were recognised in their community and had street credibility, they still experience discrimination.[13] In an interview for Kosovo 2.0 they mention that learning English is important for them to expand their performance options internationally.[14] For the Turkish national news agency that called them the first Roma female band, they stated that they were hopeful that others would follow up on their work and that they would make it easier for next bands to develop.[15]

References

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  1. ^ a b c d e Gec, Jovana (June 22, 2021). "Serbian Roma girl band sings for women's empowerment". Associated Press. Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  2. ^ Kožul, Dejan (March 19, 2021). "Pretty Loud: We Don't Have A State, We Have The Whole World". Kosovo 2.0. Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  3. ^ "Mlade,Hrabre Žene Romkinje" [Young, Brave Roma Women]. Romaworld (in Serbian). February 26, 2021. Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  4. ^ a b Jovanovic, Dragana (April 9, 2021). "From Belgrade to London, Roma Girl Band Sings for Female Empowerment". Balkan Insight. Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  5. ^ Nesic, Milica (May 12, 2020). "Hrabre i samostalne: ženski romski bend Pretty Loud" [Brave and independent: female Roma band Pretty Loud]. Deutsche Welle (in Serbian). Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  6. ^ "Collaborative Unit Project with Pretty Loud". arts.ac.uk. London College of Fashion. 2021. Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  7. ^ Kostic, Milica Milojevic (April 8, 2021). "Ženski romski bend "Pretty loud" se muzikom bori za obrazovanje Roma i protiv dečijih brakova" [The Roma women's band "Pretty loud" fights with music for Roma education and against child marriages]. Južne Vesti (in Serbian). Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  8. ^ Dejanović, Marija (February 23, 2021). "Nova.rs u romskoj mahali s bendom Pretty loud" [Nova.rs in the Roma neighborhood with the band Pretty loud]. Nova.rs (in Serbian). Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  9. ^ Milićević, Violeta (March 27, 2021). "PRETTY LOUD, PRVI ŽENSKI ROMSKI BEND IZ SRBIJE : One se muzikom bore za ženska prava i protiv diskriminacije" [PRETTY LOUD, THE FIRST WOMEN'S ROMA BAND FROM SERBIA: They fight for women's rights and discrimination with music]. Niške Vesti (in Serbian). Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  10. ^ "Roma band in Serbia raps for women's rights". Deutsche Welle. February 18, 2021. Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  11. ^ Petkovic, Milana (February 5, 2021). "Prvi ženski romski bend u svetu i to iz Srbije: Želimo da devojke prestanu da misle kako moraju da ćute pred muškarcima" [The first female Roma band in the world from Serbia: We want girls to stop thinking they have to keep quiet in front of men]. Noizz Magazine (in Serbian). Retrieved July 3, 2021.
  12. ^ "Bring the Noize 2021". Befem – Kultura i akcija (in Serbian). Retrieved July 5, 2021.
  13. ^ "Ženska romska grupa 'Pretty Loud' glasno u borbi za ravnopravnost – VoxFeminae". voxfeminae.net. Retrieved July 5, 2021.
  14. ^ "Pretty Loud: We don't have a state, we have the whole world – Kosovo 2.0Kosovo 2.0". Kosovo 2.0. March 19, 2021. Retrieved July 5, 2021.
  15. ^ "Prvi ženski romski bend na svetu "Pretty Loud": Muzikom za ravnopravnost i bolje sutra". www.aa.com.tr. Retrieved July 5, 2021.
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