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== Map is wrong == |
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== recent history listing of acquisions == |
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Austria is missing. Accenture definitely has an office there: |
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As it appears this company is quite active, we should consider consolidating recent history into coherent paragraphs so does not become one long list of acquisitions. [[User:Earnsthearthrob|Earnsthearthrob]] ([[User talk:Earnsthearthrob|talk]]) 21:53, 19 May 2020 (UTC) |
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https://www.accenture.com/at-de |
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Also definitely had before 2016 as I was working there. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/80.120.160.82|80.120.160.82]] ([[User talk:80.120.160.82#top|talk]]) 13:25, 21 January 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Awards & recognition 2020 update request == |
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== Spring 2022 updates == |
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Hi all! Once again, I'm here with some updates on behalf of Accenture as part of my work with Beutler Ink. This time I have a few different updates to ask about, so I'm going to break them up into individual requests for ease of review. |
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First up, the ''Awards'' section: |
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* The following award is quite minor and I'd like to suggest '''removing''' it, in favor of keeping this section focused on notable awards and recognition: <code>Best in KLAS Overall Healthcare Management Consulting Firm</code> |
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*The 2019 and 2020 Fortune rankings are not yet included. Please can the following be added: |
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::{{xt|In 2019, Accenture was ranked No. 298 on the Fortune Global 500 list.}}<ref name=2019Fortune500>{{cite news |title=Accenture: Global 500 |url=https://fortune.com/global500/2019/ |work=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]] |date=2019 |accessdate=25 August 2020}}</ref> |
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::{{xt|In 2020, Accenture was ranked No. 279 on the Fortune Global 500 list.}}<ref name=2019Fortune500>{{cite news |title=Accenture: Global 500 |url=https://fortune.com/company/accenture/global500/ |work=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]] |date=2020 |accessdate=25 August 2020}}</ref> |
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::Also, would it make sense to remove the earlier rankings when adding these? Or just adding the most recent? |
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*The following can be updated: <code>In 2019, Ethisphere Institute recognized Accenture for the 12th time.</code> |
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::I suggest updating this entry to replace {{!xt|2019}} and {{!xt|12th}}, to read: In {{xt|2020}}, Ethisphere Institute recognized Accenture for the {{xt|13th}} time.<ref name="Ethisphere-20">{{cite web |url=https://www.worldsmostethicalcompanies.com/honorees/ |title=The 2020 World’s Most Ethical Companies Honoree List |date=2020 |publisher=Ethisphere Institute |accessdate=26 August 2020}}</ref> |
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::Please note: the link in the source is the same as the 2019 one but the content has been updated by Ethisphere to the 2020 honorees |
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*Similarly, the following can be updated as the link is the same, but now reflects 2020 rankings: <code>Fortune named Accenture one of the 100 Best Companies to Work For from 2009 to 2019.</code> |
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::My proposed update is as follows: ''Fortune'' named Accenture one of the 100 Best Companies to Work For from 2009 to {{xt|2020}}.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://fortune.com/best-companies/accenture/ |title=Accenture: #41 |date=2020|publisher=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]] |accessdate=26 August 2020}}</ref> |
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*Can the Forbes ranking also be updated or added for 2020?: |
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::{{xt|In 2020, Accenture was ranked No. 205 on the Forbes Global 2000.}}<ref name="ForbesGlobal2000 2020">{{cite news |title=The World’s Largest Public Companies |url=https://www.forbes.com/global2000/#1e99a19a335d |magazine=[[Forbes]] |date=2020 |accessdate=26 August 2020}}</ref> |
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*Likewise, can the DiversityInc. ranking be updated or added for 2020?: |
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::{{xt|In 2020, the firm was ranked No. 5 in the Top 50 Companies for Diversity by DiversityInc.}}<ref name="DiversityInc 2020">{{cite web |url=https://www.diversityinc.com/the-2020-top-50-diversityinc/ |title=The 2020 DiversityInc Top 50 Companies for Diversity |date=2020 |publisher=DiversityInc |accessdate=26 August 2020}}</ref> |
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Hi, I'm here to propose updates throughout this article. I bring up this discussion on behalf of Accenture as part of my work at Beutler Ink (as disclosed above). |
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[[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]]: Wondering if you might have a few moments to take a look at this since you have reviewed my requests here before? For full transparency, confirming I have a [[Wikipedia:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]] since this request is made on behalf of Accenture as part of my work with Beutler Ink. Thanks in advance! [[User:16912_Rhiannon|16912 Rhiannon]] ([[User talk:16912_Rhiannon|Talk]] · [[User:16912_Rhiannon|COI]]) 15:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:Done, I think. Please let me know if I have got anything wrong. Best wishes. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk|talk]]) 15:46, 26 August 2020 (UTC) |
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Specifically, I propose these content changes (updates and new material in {{xt|green}}; deletions in {{!xt|red}}; all citations updated): |
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===''Awards & recognition''=== |
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Hello! I noticed back-and-forth editing that removed the ''Awards & recognition'' section. I'd like to ask others, including [[User:Dormskirk]], who has frequently helped keep ''Awards & recognition'' up-to-date, to consider reinstating the section, or see if some of the more notable recognition (such as Fortune Global 500, Forbes Global 2000, Fortune's Most Admired Companies), could be merged elsewhere in the article instead of being deleted altogether. I bring up this discussion on behalf of Accenture as part of my work at Beutler Ink (as disclosed above) as User:16912 Rhiannon has in the past. Thanks, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 15:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC) |
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# In the introduction, updating the end of the first paragraph with: "Accenture's current clients include {{xt|89}} of the Fortune Global 100 and more than three-quarters of the Fortune Global 500.<ref name="FactSheet22">{{cite web |url=https://newsroom.accenture.com/fact-sheet/ |title=Fact sheet |publisher=Accenture |access-date=6 June 2022}}</ref>" (I acknowledge the primary source here, but I'm seeking to update the text and source already used in the article) |
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:I think the catalyst for the issue was that some fairly trivial awards such as IT items were being added. I would be OK with adding a very short list of (say) five or six items if other editors agree. I am copying [[User talk:MrOllie|MrOllie]] for a view. Best wishes. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk|talk]]) 15:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC) |
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# In ''History'', adding: "{{xt|In August 2021, Accenture named [[David Droga]] as chief executive officer of Accenture Interactive (later renamed Accenture Song).}}<ref name="Droga">{{cite news |title=Accenture Elevates Famed Ad Man to Lead Interactive Division |last=Vranica |first=Suzanne |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/accenture-elevates-famed-ad-man-to-lead-interactive-division-11629370921 |work=[[The Wall Street Journal]] |date=August 19, 2021 |access-date=June 6, 2022}}</ref><ref name="DrogaSong">{{cite news |title=David Droga changed advertising. Now he wants to kill it. |last=Beer |first=Jeff |url=https://www.fastcompany.com/90747128/david-droga-changed-advertising-now-he-wants-to-kill-it |work=[[Fast Company]] |date=April 30, 2022 |access-date=June 6, 2022}}</ref>" |
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:: {{Ping|Dormskirk}} Thanks, I've asked for feedback from MrOllie as well, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMrOllie&type=revision&diff=983156351&oldid=982638656 here]. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 15:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC) |
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# In ''Services and operations'', updating Accenture Operations to remove {{!xt|security}}, as "security" is not mentioned in the source cited. Security actually falls under Accenture Technology. If editors wish to move it there, I would appreciate the correction, but I understand this may not be possible due to a lack of secondary sources for verification. |
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:::I could support this if it is limited to a short list of notable awards. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 16:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC) |
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# In ''Marketing, branding and identity'', updating sentence to read: "As of {{xt|2021}}, Interbrand ranked Accenture No. {{xt|32}} on its list of best global brands.<ref name="Interbrand21">{{cite web |title=Best Global Brands 2021 |url=https://interbrand.com/best-global-brands/accenture/ |work=Interbrand |date=2021 |access-date=June 6, 2022}}</ref>" |
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::::Thanks. I have added the six most recent awards back in. Best wishes. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk|talk]]) 16:55, 12 October 2020 (UTC) |
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# Updating some of the existing ''Awards and recognition'' list: |
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:::::{{Ping|Dormskirk|MrOllie}} Thank you, both, for weighing in here. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 17:31, 13 October 2020 (UTC) |
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::*"In {{xt|2022}}, Ethisphere Institute recognised Accenture for the {{xt|15th}} time<ref name="Ethisphere-22">{{cite web|date=2022|title=The 2022 World's Most Ethical Companies Honoree List|url=https://worldsmostethicalcompanies.com/honorees/accenture/ |access-date=6 June 2022 |publisher=Ethisphere Institute}}</ref>" |
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::*"''Fortune'' named Accenture one of the 100 Best Companies to Work For from 2009 to {{xt|2022}}<ref name="BestCompanies22">{{cite web|date=2022|title=Accenture: #6|url=https://fortune.com/company/accenture/best-companies/#:~:text=RANK6&text=Accenture%20vaulted%20into%20the%20top,the%20next%20generation%20of%20talent. |access-date=6 June 2022|publisher=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]]}}</ref>" |
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::*"In {{xt|2022}}, Fortune magazine named it as the world's most admired Information Technology Services company<ref name="FortuneMostAdmired22">{{cite news|date=2022|title=World's Most Admired Companies|work=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]]|url=https://fortune.com/company/accenture/worlds-most-admired-companies/|access-date=6 June 2022}}</ref>" |
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Pinging [[User:15|15]] in case you are interested, since you reviewed a similar request last year. Thanks, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 15:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC) |
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== November 2020 update request == |
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I'd like to propose some improvements to this Wikipedia article, which I'm submitting on behalf of Accenture as part of my work at Beutler Ink (as disclosed above). For this request, I propose updating two paragraphs in ''History'', and one in ''Marketing, branding and identity'' to provide additional context surrounding certain topics. |
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Specifically, I propose: |
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#Adding a sentence (in green text) to the following paragraph in ''History'': "In June 2018, Accenture generated controversy over the amount the firm has been charging to recruit 7,500 [[U.S. Customs and Border Protection|Customs and Border Protection]] officers. Under the $297 million contract, Accenture had been charging the US Government nearly $40,000 per hire, which is more than the annual salary of the average officer.<ref name=Lanard>{{cite web |url=https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/06/border-patrol-is-so-desperate-for-new-agents-its-spending-millions-to-help-recruits-finish-their-applications-1/ |title= Border Patrol Is So Desperate for New Agents, It's Spending Millions to Help Recruits Finish Their Applications |first=Noah | last=Lanard |date=14 June 2018 |accessdate=19 June 2018}}</ref> According to a report published by the DHS Office of Inspector General in December 2018, Accenture had been paid $13.6M through the first ten months of the contract. They had hired two agents against a contract goal of 7,500 hires over 5 years. The report was issued as a 'management alert', indicating an issue requiring immediate attention, stating that "Accenture has already taken longer to deploy and delivered less capability than promised".<ref name=Sands>{{cite news |url=https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/10/politics/cpb-hiring-accenture-contract-inspector-general/index.html |title= 'Serious' issues with $297 million CBP hiring contract, internal watchdog says |author =Geneva Sands |date=10 December 2018 |accessdate=10 December 2018}}</ref> {{font color|green|The contract was terminated in 2019.}}<ref name="CNN-Sands-100405">{{cite news |title=CBP terminates controversial $297 million Accenture contract amid continued staffing struggles |last1=Sands |first1=Geneva |url=https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/05/politics/cbp-terminate-hiring-contract-accenture/index.html |work=[[CNN]] |date=April 5, 2019 |accessdate=September 14, 2020}}</ref>" |
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#Adding a sentence (in green text) to the following paragraph in ''History'': "In February 2019, [[Independent contractor|contractors]] from Accenture's [[Austin, Texas]] location who performed [[content moderation]] tasks for [[Facebook]] wrote an [[open letter]] to Facebook describing poor working conditions and a "[[Big Brother (Nineteen Eighty-Four)|Big Brother]] environment" that included restricted [[Break (work)|work breaks]] and strict [[non-disclosure agreement]]s.<ref name="BI moderators">{{cite web|first1=Rob|last1=Price|accessdate=21 June 2019|title=Facebook moderators are in revolt over 'inhumane' working conditions that they say erodes their 'sense of humanity'|url=https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-moderators-complain-big-brother-rules-accenture-austin-2019-2|website=[[Business Insider]]|date=15 February 2019}}</ref><ref name="WaPo moderators">{{cite web|accessdate=21 June 2019|title=Inside Facebook, the second-class workers who do the hardest job are waging a quiet battle|url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/05/08/inside-facebook-second-class-workers-who-do-hardest-job-are-waging-quiet-battle/|website=[[The Washington Post]]|date=8 May 2019|first=Elizabeth|last=Dwoskin}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|accessdate=21 June 2019|url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-25/facebook-grappling-with-employee-anger-over-moderator-conditions|first=Joshua|last=Brustein|date=25 February 2019|website=[[Bloomberg News]]|title=Facebook Grappling With Employee Anger Over Moderator Conditions}}</ref> A counselor in the Austin office stated that the content moderators could develop [[posttraumatic stress disorder]] as a result of the work, which included evaluating videos and images containing [[graphic violence]], [[hate speech]], [[animal abuse]], and [[child abuse]].<ref name="WaPo moderators" /><ref>{{cite web|first1=Queenie|last1=Wong|accessdate=21 June 2019|title=Murders and suicides: Here's who keeps them off your Facebook feed|url=https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-content-moderation-is-an-ugly-business-heres-who-does-it/|website=[[CNET]]|date=19 June 2019}}</ref> {{font color|green|Accenture issued a statement saying the company offers opportunities for moderators to advance, increase their wages, and provide input "to help shape their experience".}}<ref name="Wapo-Dwoskin-190508">{{cite news |title=Inside Facebook, the second-class workers who do the hardest job are waging a quiet battle |last1=Dwoskin |first1=Elizabeth |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/05/08/inside-facebook-second-class-workers-who-do-hardest-job-are-waging-quiet-battle/ |work=[[The Washington Post]] |date=May 8, 2019 |accessdate=September 14, 2020}}</ref>" |
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#In ''Marketing, branding and identity'', replacing "{{font color|red|As of 2019, Accenture is currently engaged in a lawsuit with [[The Hertz Corporation]]. Hertz sued Accenture in April over a contract where Accenture was hired to build a website and app for Hertz.<ref>{{cite court |litigants= The Hertz Corporation v. Accenture LLP |court= [[S.D.N.Y.]] |url= https://regmedia.co.uk/2019/04/23/hertz-accenture-website.pdf |access-date= 8 October 2019}}</ref> On 12 September, both parties appeared before the judge and provided oral arguments on the legitimacy of Hertz's complaint and Accenture's motion to dismiss.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://upperedge.com/accenture/hertz-takes-accenture-out-of-the-drivers-seat/ |title=Hertz Takes Accenture Out of the Driver’s Seat and Sues for $36M |publisher=Upperedge.com |date=2019-06-14 |accessdate=2019-10-08}}</ref> On 15 November, fact discovery is likely to be completed according to schedule, with expert witness depositions finished by 31 January 2020, and a pre-trial conference on 21 February.}}<ref>{{cite web|author=Patrick Coffee |url=https://www.adweek.com/agencyspy/hertz-vs-accenture-case-will-likely-last-into-2020/157261/ |title=Hertz vs. Accenture Case Will Likely Last Into 2020 | AgencySpy |publisher=Adweek.com |date=2019-06-05 |accessdate=2019-10-08}}</ref>" with "{{font color|green|[[The Hertz Corporation]] sued Accenture in April 2019 over a contract where Accenture was hired to build a website and app for Hertz.<ref>{{cite court |litigants= The Hertz Corporation v. Accenture LLP |court= [[S.D.N.Y.]] |url= https://regmedia.co.uk/2019/04/23/hertz-accenture-website.pdf |access-date= 8 October 2019}}</ref> On 12 September, both parties appeared before the judge and provided oral arguments on the legitimacy of Hertz's complaint and Accenture's motion to dismiss.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://upperedge.com/accenture/hertz-takes-accenture-out-of-the-drivers-seat/ |title=Hertz Takes Accenture Out of the Driver’s Seat and Sues for $36M |publisher=Upperedge.com |date=2019-06-14 |accessdate=2019-10-08}}</ref> In October 2019, a judge dismissed with prejudice Hertz's claim that Accenture violated Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act.<ref name="Justia-Filing46-191025">{{cite web |title=Hertz Corporation v. Accenture LLP |url=https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv03508/514124/46 |work=[[Justia]] |date=October 25, 2019 |accessdate=September 14, 2020}}</ref> The judge declined to determine at that time whether an agreement limits the damages available to Hertz for its breach of contract claim.}}<ref name="Justia-Filing46-191025"/>" The live article text includes outdated court scheduling and lacks information on a judge dismissing Hertz's accusation that Accenture violated Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act. |
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{{Ping|Dormskirk}} Since you have reviewed edit requests in the past, I'm wondering what you think of these proposed updates. |
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Thanks! [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 17:04, 2 November 2020 (UTC) |
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:Most of the proposed changes look not unreasonable to me but it would be good if other editors could also take a look. I suggest you use the edit request template. Best wishes. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk|talk]]) 17:12, 2 November 2020 (UTC) |
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::{{Ping|Dormskirk}} OK, no problem and thanks for replying. I've added the template as suggested. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 17:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC) |
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{{ping|MrOllie}} Do you care to review this request? I'm trying to add context to a few topics that are in the live article. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] said "Most of the proposed changes look not unreasonable" but was hoping another editor could also review. I added <code><nowiki>{{edit request}}</nowiki></code> on Nov. 2 and posted [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Business#Accenture_edit_request|a message at WikiProject Business]] on Nov. 11, but there have been no responses so far. Thanks in advance for considering, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 16:25, 19 November 2020 (UTC) |
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:The queue is backlogged but does move. Please have patience. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 16:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC) |
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{{aye}} '''Done''' {{u|Inkian Jason}}, with minor changes to the formatting of citation dates to conform with date-month-year format. [[User:Sdrqaz|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz|talk]]) 00:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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: Thanks for your assistance. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 15:47, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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== {{tl|UDP}} == |
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I have added an {{tl|undisclosed paid}} tag to this article in connection with [[WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Yoodaba]] and [[WP:Sockpuppet investigations/VentureKit]], both of which are large UPE operations. The following editors are blocked as members of those farms and should have their edits reviewed: |
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*{{noping|MolehillMtn}} |
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*{{noping|Saviprinz}} |
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*{{noping|SkyHamster9519}} |
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*{{noping|Tuskflux}} |
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*{{noping|ESofmind}} |
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*{{noping|Shadygulf}} |
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In addition, other suspicious accounts have been involved. Noting for the record: |
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*{{noping|Nupur Chine}} |
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*{{noping|Epictechmaster}} |
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Best, [[User:Blablubbs|Blablubbs]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Blablubbs|talk]] 15:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:Hello, [[User:Blablubbs]], thank you for starting this discussion. As disclosed at the top of this page, I have been paid by Beutler Ink to suggest improvements to this Wikipedia article on behalf of Accenture. Previously, my former colleague User:16912 Rhiannon worked on the article on behalf of the company, too. We've fully complied with the site's COI editing guidelines and disclosure requirements, so I was surprised to see this tag added to the page. However, after reviewing the edits of the accounts you've listed above, I understand the issue. I have reviewed all of the edits made by these users and provided a summary below: |
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* User:MolehillMtn made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=969399503&oldid=968864000 this minor edit on July 24, 2020] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&type=revision&diff=1002551196&oldid=998475345 this edit on January 24, 2021]. |
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* User:Saviprinz made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=983410129 this edit on October 13, 2020]. |
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* User:SkyHamster9519 made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=956615033 this edit on May 14, 2020], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=961758517 this edit on June 10, 2020], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=976818785 this edit on September 4, 2020]. |
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* User:Tuskflux made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=949898572 this edit on April 8, 2020] |
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* User:Quizbizet made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=945044724 this edit on March 11, 2020]. |
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* User:ESofmind made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=943692261 this edit on March 3, 2020]. |
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* User:Shadygulf made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=942531997 this edit on February 24, 2020]. |
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* User:Nupur Chine made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=981959972 this edit on October 5, 2020], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=981975815 this edit on October 5, 2020], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=981977192 this edit on October 5, 2020]. |
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* User:Epictechmaster made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=936670802&oldid=936055906 this edit on January 20, 2020]. |
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:As you can see, some of these edits are quite minor (punctuation, wikilinking, etc), and the majority are focused on acquisitions. Perhaps some contributions are overly detailed, but I would argue most of the changes are neutral. One that sticks out as problematic is [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=956615033 this addition of the ''Leadership'' section]; however, this content has since been '''removed'''. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=936670802&oldid=936055906 This edit explaining Accenture's services] is based on the company's website may be [[WP:PROMO]], but has since been '''removed''' as well. I would invite you and [[User:Dormskirk]] to please take a look and see if any of these changes justify keeping the tag on the article. Or, if there is any content in the current version of the article which is problematic, can you please identify? I understand Dormskirk prefers not to respond to COI edit requests, but since they helped with a few here on the Talk page, I'd like to make them aware of this discussion and hopefully help decide if the tag is required. If there are any major neutrality concerns, I'd like to help address. I understand the tag serves a purpose, but hopefully my summary here expedites the investigation into these edits and the tag can be removed if the content is deemed generally appropriate. Thanks again, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 19:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::Hi [[User:Inkian Jason|Jason]], thanks for your reply. I unfortunately don't have the time and energy to review all the edits myself right now, but I do have two spontaneous thoughts: First, I want to note that I'm not accusing you or Beutler of any sort of misconduct; I appreciate the work you are doing to edit Wikipedia in compliance with our COI guidelines. This may well be a case of another PR firm being retained by someone with a financial stake in Accenture{{snd}}I frankly have no idea what exactly is going on, but the level of activity suggests that it isn't random. |
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::Second, the neutrality concerns: Both of these farms are usually relatively good at not inserting overtly promotional content into articles; Yoodaba especially usually deals in things like mergers and acquisitions, with bigger "red flag" edits interspersed between them. The essential question to ask when reviewing edits and creations by these farms are usually due weight (which can come down to placement within the article) and encyclopaedic relevance of additions. There is a tendency of sockfarms like this to turn Wikipedia articles from encyclopaedia entries into what amounts to bulleted lists of company press releases, sometimes "laundered" through some industry publication{{snd}}though this isn't quite as much of a concern on an article like this, where editing activity is higher than with most targeted articles. Best, [[User:Blablubbs|Blablubbs]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Blablubbs|talk]] 19:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::: {{Reply|Blablubbs}} Thanks. I understand you've not accused Beutler Ink of wrongdoing, but I'd still like to offer to address any concerns in order to have the tag removed. I'm hoping User:Dormskirk will weigh in here, otherwise, where should I go to find an editor who is willing to review the edits and make a judgement on the tag's necessity? [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 19:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::: Hi - As you have rightly noted, I no longer respond to edit requests as the whole area is toxic. I suggest that you use the {{tl|request edit}} template. I am aware that there are currently some 200 requests waiting to be reviewed, presumably because other experienced editors have opted out of providing help as well. I suggest you try and be patient. Apologies and best wishes. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk|talk]]) 19:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC) |
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===Recommended fix=== |
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{{Resolved}} |
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{{ping|Blablubbs}} I analyzed the edits by the accounts you identified above and prepared the following for you. You'll see a link to each edit, a summary of the edit, and recommended fixes where possible. Six of the edits have already been reverted, so no action is needed. I recommend reverting seven others and streamlining one with shorter text and a new source in order to remove the tag. |
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'''User:MolehillMtn'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=969399503&oldid=968864000 This minor edit on July 24, 2020] added a comma. If this is contributing to the need for the UDP template, I suggest editors '''revert''' this edit. |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&type=revision&diff=1002551196&oldid=998475345 This edit on January 24, 2021] added a ''2020s: Current events'' subheading as well as mention of Accenture's $3 billion commitment to a division called Accenture Cloud First, led by Karthik Narain. I suggest editors streamline that sentence and use a new source by '''replacing''' with the following, or similar: "In September 2020, Accenture invested $3 billion in its new Accenture Cloud First unit."<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.zdnet.com/article/accenture-creates-cloud-first-unit-to-invest-3-billion-over-3-years-to-speed-up-enterprise-cloud-migrations/|title=Accenture creates Cloud First unit, to invest $3 billion over 3 years to speed up enterprise cloud migrations|work=[[ZD Net]]|first=Larry|last=Dignan|date=September 17, 2020|accessdate=March 1, 2021}}</ref> |
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'''User:Saviprinz'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=983410129 This edit on October 13, 2020] added mention of Accenture's acquisition of Myrtle Consulting Group. Accenture completes numerous acquisitions each year, not all of which need to be reflected on Wikipedia. I suggest editors '''revert''' this edit. |
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'''User:SkyHamster9519'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=956615033 This edit on May 14, 2020] to add a ''Leadership'' section has been reverted. '''No action needed.''' |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=961758517 This edit on June 10, 2020] added mention of Accenture's Gekko acquisition. Accenture completes numerous acquisitions each year, not all of which need to be reflected on Wikipedia. I suggest editors '''revert''' this edit. |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=976818785 This edit on September 4, 2020] added wikilinks to the above edit. I suggest editors '''revert''' this edit. |
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'''User:Tuskflux'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=949898572 This edit on April 8, 2020] added mention of Accenture's Revolutionary Security acquisition. Accenture completes numerous acquisitions each year, not all of which need to be reflected on Wikipedia. I suggest editors '''revert''' this edit. |
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'''User:Quizbizet'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=945044724 This edit on March 11, 2020] added mention of Accenture's ESR Labs acquisition. Accenture completes numerous acquisitions each year, not all of which need to be reflected on Wikipedia. I suggest editors '''revert''' this edit. |
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'''User:ESofmind'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=943692261 This edit on March 3, 2020] added a Klas Research award. This edit has been reverted. '''No action needed.''' |
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'''User:Shadygulf'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=prev&oldid=942531997 This edit on February 24, 2020] added mention of plans to shut down Accenture's media auditing arm. While I'm not opposed to this information in the article, if this individual edit contributes to the UDP banner, I suggest editors '''revert''' this edit. |
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'''User:Nupur Chine'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=981959972 This edit on October 5, 2020] added duplicate information on Accenture's ranking on ''Fortune''{{'s}} 'Most Admired Companies' list and ''Fortune'' Global 500 (the info was already in the article prior to Nupur Chine's edit). This edit has been reverted. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=981975815 This edit on October 5, 2020] added back those rankings, which were reverted again. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=981977192 This edit on October 5, 2020] added back the entire ''Awards and recognition'' list after being removed by another editor, which was then reverted. The entire ''Awards and recognition'' was then streamlined by [[User:Dormskirk]] based on a discussion on the Talk page. Therefore, there was really no net change as a result of Nupur Chine's edits here. '''No action needed.''' |
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'''User:Epictechmaster'''<br> |
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Accenture&diff=936670802&oldid=936055906 This edit on January 20, 2020] added a lengthy photo caption, which was very quickly reverted. '''No action needed.''' |
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I hope this helps. Accenture and Beutler Ink have put great effort into following Wikipedia's conflict of interest rules while seeking updates to this article. If undisclosed paid editing by others' sockpuppetry or suspicious accounts has called into question the integrity of this article, I think it's best to remove those edits. The one exception to absolute removal is the sentence about Accenture Cloud First, as it is a significant business investment, so I proposed we improve that particular item. However, if editors think it's cleaner to simply remove that detail, I'm OK with that, too. Thanks again, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 18:03, 4 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:I concur. {{implemented}}, thanks. [[User:Blablubbs|Blablubbs]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Blablubbs|talk]] 17:05, 12 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:: Thank you! [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 17:19, 12 March 2021 (UTC) |
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== Awards & recognition 2021 update request == |
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Hello! I am here to propose updates to the ''[[Accenture#Awards & recognition|Awards & recognition]]'' section with 2021 information. I bring up this discussion on behalf of Accenture as part of my work at Beutler Ink (as disclosed above). I am not seeking to add any new awards other than updating the existing list, which contains 2020 information. |
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I recommend the following (content changes in green; all citations updated): |
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*In {{xt|2021}}, Accenture was ranked No. {{xt|169}} on the Forbes Global 2000.<ref name="ForbesGlobal2000 2020">{{cite news |title=Global 2000 |url=https://www.forbes.com/lists/global2000/#7370e80b5ac0 |magazine=[[Forbes]] |date=2021 |access-date=19 August 2021}}</ref> |
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* In {{xt|2021}}, the firm was ranked No. {{xt|2}} in the Top 50 Companies for Diversity by DiversityInc.<ref name="DiversityInc 2020">{{cite web |url=https://www.diversityinc.com/diversityinc-announces-the-2021-top-50-companies-for-diversity-list/ |title=DiversityInc Announces The 2021 Top 50 Companies for Diversity List |date=2021 |publisher=DiversityInc |access-date=19 August 2020}}</ref> |
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* In {{xt|2021}}, Ethisphere Institute recognized Accenture for the {{xt|14th}} time.<ref name="Ethisphere-21">{{cite web |url=https://www.worldsmostethicalcompanies.com/honorees/ |title=The 2021 World's Most Ethical Companies Honoree List |date=2021 |publisher=Ethisphere Institute |access-date=19 August 2020}}</ref> |
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*''Fortune'' named Accenture one of the 100 Best Companies to Work For from 2009 to {{xt|2021}}.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://fortune.com/company/accenture/best-companies/ |title=Accenture: #44 |date=2021|publisher=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]] |access-date=19 August 2020}}</ref> |
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*In {{xt|2021}}, Accenture was ranked No. {{xt|258}} on the Fortune Global 500 list.<ref name=2021Fortune500>{{cite news |title=Accenture: Global 500 |url=https://fortune.com/company/accenture/global500/ |work=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]] |date=2021 |access-date=19 August 2020}}</ref> |
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*In {{xt|2021}}, [[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune magazine]] named it as the world's most admired Information Technology Services company.<ref name=FortuneMostAdmired21>{{cite news |title=World's Most Admired Companies |url=https://fortune.com/company/accenture/worlds-most-admired-companies/ |work=[[Fortune (magazine)|Fortune]] |date=2021 |access-date=19 February 2021}}</ref> |
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Pinging {{u|Dormskirk}} and {{u|MrOllie}} in case you are interested, since we discussed this section last year. Thanks, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 15:30, 19 August 2021 (UTC) |
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*{{re|Inkian Jason}} ''Partially'' done. Specifically, I did #3, #4, #5 (even did a bit more than you asked on #5). |
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:Apologies but I no longer respond to edit requests following criticism of those of us who have been prepared to help in this area in the past. Best Wishes. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk|talk]]) 15:33, 19 August 2021 (UTC) |
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** For #1 (clients include most of the Global 100/500) I am, as you suspected, wary of the primary source, especially about something that is clearly promotional, and in the lead section. It's an important sentence, as it's a good shorthand way to explain Accenture's importance, and I do believe it, so I'm not going to just delete it, but as a rule, it's a bad idea to rely on the company itself for a clearly promotional sentence. Can you find a third party source that says it? Otherwise, fair warning, I, or someone else, may well delete that sentence entirely, which will be a bad thing in general. |
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::[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done''' <!-- Template:ECOI --> [[User:15|15]] ([[User talk:15|talk]]) 10:45, 22 August 2021 (UTC) |
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** For #2 about David Droga - I really want to add it, but that whole 2020s section is a mess. It's basically a list of acquisitions, of companies that we don't have independent articles for, and many sourced only to Accenture. I'm highly tempted to delete most of that section, and same for 2010s, leaving only the ''important'' events, not the daily blow-by-blow. Since Accenture clearly acquires other companies regularly, most of those acquisitions don't seem that important. What is important is, is of course, subjective, but a good rule of thumb is - does the thing written about have its own article, and/or do other reliable sources, not Accenture, write non-trivial articles about the event? So the David Droga bit would probably be fine, we have a good sized article about [[David Droga]], so it's probably important, but I'd be inserting a good bit into a bad section. I don't suppose you'd be willing to suggest an edit that rewrites that whole section to only include the important parts? --[[User:GRuban|GRuban]] ([[User talk:GRuban|talk]]) 16:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::: Thank you! [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 14:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|GRuban}} Thanks again! Let me take a look around and see what I can do to help with the concerns you raise about #1 and #2. [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 16:23, 15 July 2022 (UTC) |
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== Updating: Splitting 2020s and Acquisitons, updating Services & Operations == |
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Hi there, I'm an Accenture employee (but longer wikipedia fan! Relative newbie on editing... hoping I've followed the guidelines correctly here) - I wanted to suggest some updates to make the recent history section more readable/logical but with obvious COI I feel uncomfortable making these changes direct. I've tried to find suitable external sources: also: |
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:::{{ping|GRuban}} I appreciate your patience here. I looked further into issue #1. Unfortunately, I do not have any third-party sources that verify this information. I can make another request to update that info if such a source becomes available. For issue #2, I agree the section needs improvement, and understand why you wouldn't want to insert "a good bit into a bad section". Here's a potential fix in the meantime: Would you consider adding David Droga to the ''Key people'' parameter of the infobox, after "Julie Sweet (Chair and CEO)"? Thanks, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 14:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC) |
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=== Change 1 - closing the 2010s === |
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:::: Added Droga to 2020s section after all. --[[User:GRuban|GRuban]] ([[User talk:GRuban|talk]]) 13:46, 29 July 2022 (UTC) |
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I'd suggest this section is retitled to something like '2010s: Ireland headquarters and Accenture Digital' so it covers a couple of the main flavours of that decade. Ireland HQ on its own would be fine also but doesn't feel like it talks about much around the business changes. |
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:::::Thank you! [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 14:04, 29 July 2022 (UTC) |
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{{Outdent}} If [[User:GRuban|GRuban]] or any other editors here are interested, I have submitted a series of edits requests to bring Accenture's entry at Japanese Wikipedia up to date '''[[:ja:ノート:アクセンチュア|here]]'''. Thanks, [[User:Inkian Jason|Inkian Jason]] ([[User talk:Inkian Jason|talk]]) 16:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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To support this I'd suggest something like the following in that section: |
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:Nihongo ga wakarimasen {{smiley|frown}} --[[User:GRuban|GRuban]] ([[User talk:GRuban|talk]]) 18:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC) |
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In 2013 the company created "Accenture Digital", targeted to brings together services into a new, integrated end-to-end digital capability, and "Accenture Strategy"<ref>{{Cite web|title=Accenture Announces Key Leadership Appointments; |
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== Enron Scandal == |
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Launches Two New Growth Platforms: Accenture Digital and Accenture Strategy|url=https://newsroom.accenture.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=5921&_ga=2.211709724.888497028.1633323600-1155817976.1628753726|url-status=live|access-date=04/10/2021}}</ref> |
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The Enron Scandal is the actual reason why the name was changed to Accenture. Why is there no mention of this in the entry? [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:8643:B400:5180:8EC0:6AB8:3D4F|2607:FEA8:8643:B400:5180:8EC0:6AB8:3D4F]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:8643:B400:5180:8EC0:6AB8:3D4F|talk]]) 20:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC) |
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:Do you have a [[WP:CITE|citation]] of a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] to support your claim? <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<span style="color: #006633;">General <i>Ization</i></span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:General Ization|<i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i>]] </sup> 20:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC) |
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::The name change was legally mandated in 1998, several years before the Enron scandal broke. Already during the 1990s, Andersen Consulting and Arthur Andersen were two entirely separate legal entities, outside of AC having to pay AA damages for making more money while still using the Andersen name. Which was part of the reason for the suit already started during the mid-90s that led to the name change, which in turn occured years before the scandal caused by AA, not by AC. No employee of AC ever had anything to do with Enron whatsoever, at least not post-1989. --[[Special:Contributions/2003:EF:170A:9244:9D8E:96E:A918:6897|2003:EF:170A:9244:9D8E:96E:A918:6897]] ([[User talk:2003:EF:170A:9244:9D8E:96E:A918:6897|talk]]) 17:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Good catch IP. Done, found a reliable citation and added to the article. [[User:CactiStaccingCrane|CactiStaccingCrane]] ([[User talk:CactiStaccingCrane|talk]]) 03:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:I agree. It was a very public event at the time and the consulting wing, already separate, wanted to isolate themselves further from the scandals associated with Arthur Andersen's failed financial audit of Enron. [[User:Stevenmitchell|Stevenmitchell]] ([[User talk:Stevenmitchell|talk]]) 18:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Enron == |
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=== Change 2 - introducing the 2020s === |
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If we close the 2010s, recent history needs a home! I'd suggest a new section with a nod to the pandemic and one key organisational change: |
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oddly, no discussion of Enron. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:2371:77D0:FD05:A2A:8554:449D|2600:1700:2371:77D0:FD05:A2A:8554:449D]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:2371:77D0:FD05:A2A:8554:449D|talk]]) 15:00, 31 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Accenture announced changes to its Growth Model and Global Management Committee in January 2020, reorganising its capabilities into four services: Strategy & Consulting, Interactive, Technology, and Operations.<ref>{{Cite web|last=admin|title=Accenture CEO Julie Sweet Implements New Global Growth Model {{!}} The Consulting Report|url=https://www.theconsultingreport.com/accenture-ceo-julie-sweet-implements-new-global-growth-model/|access-date=2021-10-04|language=en-US}}</ref> In February 2020, Accenture announced that it plans to shut down its media auditing by the end of August.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Accenture shuts media auditing business {{!}} News|url=http://www.research-live.com/article/news/accenture-shutters-media-auditing-business/id/5064692|access-date=2020-02-25|website=Research Live|language=en}}</ref> The company also announced the appointment of [[Jean-Marc Ollagnier]] as CEO for Europe.<ref>{{Cite web|title=Jean-Marc Ollagnier new CEO of Accenture's European division|url=https://www.consultancy.eu/news/3717/jean-marc-ollagnier-new-ceo-of-accentures-european-division|access-date=2020-05-12|website=Consultancy.eu|language=en}}</ref> In September 2020, Accenture committed $3 billion and created a division called Accenture Cloud First.<ref>{{Cite web|last=www.ETCIO.com|title=Karthik Narain to lead $3 billion 'Accenture Cloud First' group - ET CIO|url=https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/karthik-narain-to-lead-3-billion-accenture-cloud-first-group/78187033|access-date=2021-01-24|website=ETCIO.com|language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|last=Goled|first=Shraddha|date=2021-01-12|title=Cloud-First Strategy: What's All The Fuss About?|url=https://analyticsindiamag.com/cloud-first-strategy-whats-all-the-fuss-about/|access-date=2021-01-24|website=Analytics India Magazine|language=en-US}}</ref> |
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:Done, found a reliable citation and added to the article. [[User:CactiStaccingCrane|CactiStaccingCrane]] ([[User talk:CactiStaccingCrane|talk]]) 03:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC) |
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In common with other elements of the technology sector, Accenture experienced both an initial shrinkage<ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-07-01|title=Accenture to cut up to 900 UK jobs as pandemic hits demand|url=http://www.theguardian.com/accenture/2020/jul/01/accenture-to-cut-up-to-900-uk-jobs-as-pandemic-hits-demand|access-date=2021-10-04|website=the Guardian|language=en}}</ref> and subsequent growth in response to the [[COVID-19 pandemic]], with a record $59.3 billion new bookings for the full fiscal year 2021 <ref>{{Cite web|date=2021-09-23|title=Accenture's new bookings at record $59.3 bn for full fiscal year, up 20%|url=https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/accentures-new-bookings-at-record-59-3-bn-for-full-fiscal-year-up-20-11632401840145.html|access-date=2021-10-04|website=mint|language=en}}</ref>. |
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== Is it "Irish-American"? == |
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=== Change 3 - separating out acquisitions === |
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Assuming this section is useful (it could get huge...) I think having it separate would be useful with an introductory sentence something like: |
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As with many [[Professional services|services firms]], Accenture's expansion includes a substantial amount of acquisitions and [[inorganic growth]]. In recent years these have included: |
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Surely it's an American company with an HQ in Dublin for tax reasons. It's no more "Irish-American" than Apple is. [[User:Jamesinderbyshire|Jamesinderbyshire]] ([[User talk:Jamesinderbyshire|talk]]) 16:47, 4 February 2024 (UTC) |
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=== Change 4 - merging Strategy & Consulting === |
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2 of the areas have merged - so around line 208 something like this might be useful: |
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* ''Accenture Strategy'' ''& Consulting'' provides business, technology, and operations consulting services .<ref name=Pro14>{{cite news |title=Analyst Commentary: Accenture's digital push will boost consulting prospects |url=http://www.professionaloutsourcingmagazine.net/newsitems/analyst-commentary-accentures-digital-push-will-boost-consulting-prospects |newspaper=Professional Outsourcing Resources |date=3 January 2014 |access-date=30 January 2014 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140120115051/http://www.professionaloutsourcingmagazine.net/newsitems/analyst-commentary-accentures-digital-push-will-boost-consulting-prospects |archive-date=20 January 2014 |url-status=dead }}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|title=Accenture Announces Changes to Its Growth Model and Global Management Committee|url=https://www.silicon.co.uk/press-release/accenture-announces-changes-to-its-growth-model-and-global-management-committee|url-status=live|website=Silcon.co.uk}}</ref> |
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:@[[User:Jamesinderbyshire|Jamesinderbyshire]] Apple is headquartered in California though. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8084:46C3:AC00:6D47:9866:249D:6F7F|2A02:8084:46C3:AC00:6D47:9866:249D:6F7F]] ([[User talk:2A02:8084:46C3:AC00:6D47:9866:249D:6F7F|talk]]) 10:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Map is wrong
[edit]Austria is missing. Accenture definitely has an office there: https://www.accenture.com/at-de https://www.karriere.at/f/accenture https://www.kununu.com/at/accenture1 https://goo.gl/maps/N7bxFeexSEpkSoTB9
Also definitely had before 2016 as I was working there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.120.160.82 (talk) 13:25, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Spring 2022 updates
[edit]Part of an edit requested by an editor with a conflict of interest has been implemented. |
Hi, I'm here to propose updates throughout this article. I bring up this discussion on behalf of Accenture as part of my work at Beutler Ink (as disclosed above).
Specifically, I propose these content changes (updates and new material in green; deletions in red; all citations updated):
- In the introduction, updating the end of the first paragraph with: "Accenture's current clients include 89 of the Fortune Global 100 and more than three-quarters of the Fortune Global 500.[1]" (I acknowledge the primary source here, but I'm seeking to update the text and source already used in the article)
- In History, adding: "In August 2021, Accenture named David Droga as chief executive officer of Accenture Interactive (later renamed Accenture Song).[2][3]"
- In Services and operations, updating Accenture Operations to remove security, as "security" is not mentioned in the source cited. Security actually falls under Accenture Technology. If editors wish to move it there, I would appreciate the correction, but I understand this may not be possible due to a lack of secondary sources for verification.
- In Marketing, branding and identity, updating sentence to read: "As of 2021, Interbrand ranked Accenture No. 32 on its list of best global brands.[4]"
- Updating some of the existing Awards and recognition list:
Pinging 15 in case you are interested, since you reviewed a similar request last year. Thanks, Inkian Jason (talk) 15:26, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Fact sheet". Accenture. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
- ^ Vranica, Suzanne (August 19, 2021). "Accenture Elevates Famed Ad Man to Lead Interactive Division". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved June 6, 2022.
- ^ Beer, Jeff (April 30, 2022). "David Droga changed advertising. Now he wants to kill it". Fast Company. Retrieved June 6, 2022.
- ^ "Best Global Brands 2021". Interbrand. 2021. Retrieved June 6, 2022.
- ^ "The 2022 World's Most Ethical Companies Honoree List". Ethisphere Institute. 2022. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
- ^ "Accenture: #6". Fortune. 2022. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
- ^ "World's Most Admired Companies". Fortune. 2022. Retrieved 6 June 2022.
- @Inkian Jason: Partially done. Specifically, I did #3, #4, #5 (even did a bit more than you asked on #5).
- For #1 (clients include most of the Global 100/500) I am, as you suspected, wary of the primary source, especially about something that is clearly promotional, and in the lead section. It's an important sentence, as it's a good shorthand way to explain Accenture's importance, and I do believe it, so I'm not going to just delete it, but as a rule, it's a bad idea to rely on the company itself for a clearly promotional sentence. Can you find a third party source that says it? Otherwise, fair warning, I, or someone else, may well delete that sentence entirely, which will be a bad thing in general.
- For #2 about David Droga - I really want to add it, but that whole 2020s section is a mess. It's basically a list of acquisitions, of companies that we don't have independent articles for, and many sourced only to Accenture. I'm highly tempted to delete most of that section, and same for 2010s, leaving only the important events, not the daily blow-by-blow. Since Accenture clearly acquires other companies regularly, most of those acquisitions don't seem that important. What is important is, is of course, subjective, but a good rule of thumb is - does the thing written about have its own article, and/or do other reliable sources, not Accenture, write non-trivial articles about the event? So the David Droga bit would probably be fine, we have a good sized article about David Droga, so it's probably important, but I'd be inserting a good bit into a bad section. I don't suppose you'd be willing to suggest an edit that rewrites that whole section to only include the important parts? --GRuban (talk) 16:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @GRuban: Thanks again! Let me take a look around and see what I can do to help with the concerns you raise about #1 and #2. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:23, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @GRuban: I appreciate your patience here. I looked further into issue #1. Unfortunately, I do not have any third-party sources that verify this information. I can make another request to update that info if such a source becomes available. For issue #2, I agree the section needs improvement, and understand why you wouldn't want to insert "a good bit into a bad section". Here's a potential fix in the meantime: Would you consider adding David Droga to the Key people parameter of the infobox, after "Julie Sweet (Chair and CEO)"? Thanks, Inkian Jason (talk) 14:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Added Droga to 2020s section after all. --GRuban (talk) 13:46, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:04, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Added Droga to 2020s section after all. --GRuban (talk) 13:46, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- @GRuban: I appreciate your patience here. I looked further into issue #1. Unfortunately, I do not have any third-party sources that verify this information. I can make another request to update that info if such a source becomes available. For issue #2, I agree the section needs improvement, and understand why you wouldn't want to insert "a good bit into a bad section". Here's a potential fix in the meantime: Would you consider adding David Droga to the Key people parameter of the infobox, after "Julie Sweet (Chair and CEO)"? Thanks, Inkian Jason (talk) 14:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
If GRuban or any other editors here are interested, I have submitted a series of edits requests to bring Accenture's entry at Japanese Wikipedia up to date here. Thanks, Inkian Jason (talk) 16:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nihongo ga wakarimasen --GRuban (talk) 18:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
Enron Scandal
[edit]The Enron Scandal is the actual reason why the name was changed to Accenture. Why is there no mention of this in the entry? 2607:FEA8:8643:B400:5180:8EC0:6AB8:3D4F (talk) 20:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Do you have a citation of a reliable source to support your claim? General Ization Talk 20:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- The name change was legally mandated in 1998, several years before the Enron scandal broke. Already during the 1990s, Andersen Consulting and Arthur Andersen were two entirely separate legal entities, outside of AC having to pay AA damages for making more money while still using the Andersen name. Which was part of the reason for the suit already started during the mid-90s that led to the name change, which in turn occured years before the scandal caused by AA, not by AC. No employee of AC ever had anything to do with Enron whatsoever, at least not post-1989. --2003:EF:170A:9244:9D8E:96E:A918:6897 (talk) 17:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- Good catch IP. Done, found a reliable citation and added to the article. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 03:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- The name change was legally mandated in 1998, several years before the Enron scandal broke. Already during the 1990s, Andersen Consulting and Arthur Andersen were two entirely separate legal entities, outside of AC having to pay AA damages for making more money while still using the Andersen name. Which was part of the reason for the suit already started during the mid-90s that led to the name change, which in turn occured years before the scandal caused by AA, not by AC. No employee of AC ever had anything to do with Enron whatsoever, at least not post-1989. --2003:EF:170A:9244:9D8E:96E:A918:6897 (talk) 17:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. It was a very public event at the time and the consulting wing, already separate, wanted to isolate themselves further from the scandals associated with Arthur Andersen's failed financial audit of Enron. Stevenmitchell (talk) 18:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
Enron
[edit]oddly, no discussion of Enron. 2600:1700:2371:77D0:FD05:A2A:8554:449D (talk) 15:00, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done, found a reliable citation and added to the article. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 03:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Is it "Irish-American"?
[edit]Surely it's an American company with an HQ in Dublin for tax reasons. It's no more "Irish-American" than Apple is. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 16:47, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jamesinderbyshire Apple is headquartered in California though. 2A02:8084:46C3:AC00:6D47:9866:249D:6F7F (talk) 10:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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