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== Good article reassessment ==
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== Too many images? ==

I'm all for having images in an article, but this seems like overkill. First off, someone with a slower computer would have a hard time loading this article, given the amount of image files. Secondly, we don't need that many images to show what a Jack Russell looks like, much less a Parson Russell or any other dog breed. The non-Jack Russell images seem irrelevant, and of the remaining ones, we can probably trim off a few. It's to the point where it's distracting to read, so we definitely need to remove several images. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights|talk]]) 19:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
*Removed three of the images - better? [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 18:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, looks less cluttered now. Thanks- I don't mess with images just yet, I've managed to spectacularly destroy the formatting in articles a couple times, and I'll need a bit more practice before I do. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights|talk]]) 05:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::No worries, I left the Parson image in as I thought it highlighted the height difference between it and the JR. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 11:13, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, that was a good idea. I'm liking it. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights|talk]]) 16:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Irish Jack Russells ==

Just reverted a change of image in the history section that added an image of an "Irish" Jack Russell Terrier. Note that unless referring the dog's nationality, there is no such thing as an Irish Jack Russell. The term is used to describe a specifically short legged JRT, which is actually more commonly called a [[Russell Terrier]].

The use of the prefix "Irish" in dog terms should usually be taken suspiciously unless you know it's meant to be there (for instance, an [[Irish Water Spaniel]]). An example of this is selling [[American Pit Bull Terrier]]s in the UK as "Irish Staffordshire Bull Terriers". [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 13:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
:Just reverted the addition of an Irish Jack Russell again. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 22:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

== Intro - paragraph 2. - 7 April 2011 ==

Added contradiction temp. Has the breed changed or not changed? [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 12:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
:The breed has changed. It was first bred as a fox hunting terrier, then a badger hunting terrier and is now an all round working terrier. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 21:16, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
::I can well believe it, but the very obvious contradiction should be addressed rather than removing a request asking for support for one side of the contradictory argument. I have answered you more fully on your talk page. [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 23:16, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
:::I've removed the contradicting line. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 23:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
::::Great. Can you now add the cite you mentioned existed that supports the conflicting assertion: ''"It has gone through several changes over the years, through different use and conformation show standards set by kennel clubs"''? Especially when there is a contradictory statement, and even though I agree with you from my non-NPOV position as a JRT owner, we cannot as you know, allow yours and my view to be presented as fact without proper evidence; it's good to know you have a credible source to add so that we don't have to remove this sentence too. Many thanks. [[User:Acabashi|Acabashi]] ([[User talk:Acabashi|talk]]) 01:00, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Please see [[WP:LEADCITE]]. The changes made to the Jack Russell Terrier are documented throughout the history section and that line is written as a general line to cover that information briefly. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 11:19, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
::Given that the JRT has never been a kennel club breed, any statement that the breed has changed through "different use and conformation show standards set by kennel clubs" can be pretty much discounted as obviously false.
::[[User:Jdege|jdege]] ([[User talk:Jdege|talk]]) 13:20, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
:::I've changed the line from "conformation show standards" to "breed standards". [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 18:50, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

== jrt to sit on his hind legs ==

why delete my photo on the jack russell? jack russell has this feature that is often sat on his hind legs ...as often Eddie Crane on Frasier ... so my picture describes a feature that I think is more useful than a jack running to catch a ball as they do many dogs!thanks :) --<big>[[Utente:Archita78|<span style="color:Red;background:blue">Archita</span>]]</big>[[Discussioni utente:Archita78|<sup><span style="color:black"> (if you must)</span></sup>]] 18:40, 24 June 2011 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Archita78|Archita78]] ([[User talk:Archita78|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Archita78|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I've responded on you talk page, but to summarize here, a dog sitting is not unusual, and the text did not include a citation to prove that it was unusual and unique to the breed; and the image was of poor quality. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 18:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
ok boss :) --<big>[[Utente:Archita78|<span style="color:Red;background:blue">Archita</span>]]</big>[[Discussioni utente:Archita78|<sup><span style="color:black"> (if you must)</span></sup>]] 19:07, 24 June 2011 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Archita78|Archita78]] ([[User talk:Archita78|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Archita78|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:My previous note stands. The photo you keep adding is encyclopedic and adds nothing to the article, while the text contains a citation - it's from an unreliable source and doesn't actually reference the text you've added at all. Any edits in this way will be considered vandalism, and will be reverted. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 09:30, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

== "Beginers" ==

Hi, how about mentioning JRT from movie "Beginers" (2011) with Evan Mac Gregor? Dog there was pretty important, so i tthink it is worth mentioning, however I do not have good sources to know anything more about this dog. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/91.213.255.7|91.213.255.7]] ([[User talk:91.213.255.7|talk]]) 15:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:*Found a reference on the official site and adding it - it's the same dog actor as in Hotel for Dogs. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 16:55, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

== Earth ==

From the OED (Earth n<sup>1</sup>):

:'''5.''' As a count noun: an animal's dwelling or hiding place; the hole or lair of a burrowing mammal, esp. a fox or badger.

The most recent example being 2006 "'''Herald Express (Torquay)'' (Nexis) 21 June 8 Near one of the wildest earths I know on Dartmoor a vixen continues to educate her cubs in the survival business."

OED Burrow entry says:
:"a. A hole or excavation made in the ground for a dwelling-place by rabbits, foxes and the like.

The most recent entry that links the word with Fox is 1552 quoted in a 1701 article.

In British English burrow is not usually used to describe a tunnel in which a fox lives. For clarity in hunting circles in England there are distinct words for these holes in the ground:
*[Badger] [[Sett|set]].
*[Fox] earth.
*[Rabbit] [[warren]] (but an individual entrance to a warren is a burrow as is a small warren).
*[Otter] holt (an entrance to a lodge)

I suggest that in this article as it is about a type of fox terror, that the term "earth" is used instead of "burrow". -- [[User:Philip Baird Shearer|PBS]] ([[User talk:Philip Baird Shearer|talk]]) 00:42, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
:Burrow was used because these types of dogs while called types of fox terriers were not used exclusively to hunt foxes. For quite a while at the start of the 20th century they were used almost exclusively to hunt badgers. Therefore burrow was used to be more generic. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 12:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

== Uggie ==

The acting dog [[Uggie]] has become so famous now that the film "The Artist" has been released that his absence from this article is a significant omission. [[User:Cognita|Cognita]] ([[User talk:Cognita|talk]]) 08:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
:There's a section ready for him(Well-known Jack Russell terriers), find a ref and add him! [[User:The Interior|<font color="brown">The</font><font color="green"> Interior</font>]] [[User Talk:The Interior|(Talk)]] 08:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

== Lowercase breed names ==

If someone wants something to do, this article needs someone to go through it and restore all the dog breed names to uppercase as per the MOS update late last year. They were originally uppercase, but were reduced to lowercase during an nomination. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 12:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

== Edit request on 5 March 2012 ==

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== Edit request on 13 April 2012 ==

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[[User:Pattibradford|Pattibradford]] ([[User talk:Pattibradford|talk]]) 10:30, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Please add [http://www.theartc.org/ The American Russell Terrier Club] to the "clubs" section because they are the Parent Club for the AKC Russell Terrier.

Thank you,
Patti Bradford
American Russell Terrier Club

:Wouldn't that be better served on the [[Russell Terrier]] article? Speaking of which, I'll be sure to incorporate some information from your website when I finally get around to overhaul that article as the AKC timeline is particularly useful. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 16:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

::[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Per Miyagawa's comment. We also tend to keep those lists as small as possible, by limiting them only to topics which meet [[WP:N]] and therefore have an existing article. I'm not sure if the American Russell Terrier Club meets [[WP:N]], but if so, it might be a better candidate for inclusion here and elsewhere. Anyway, if you need further assistance, feel free to re-enable the requested edit template. Thanks! &nbsp; &mdash; [[User:Mann_jess|<b>Jess</b>]]<span style="margin:0 7px;font-variant:small-caps;font-size:0.9em">&middot; [[Special:Contributions/Mann_jess|&Delta;]][[User_talk:Mann_jess|&hearts;]]</span> 03:51, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

== Edit request on 17 April 2012 ==

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I would like to add the below comment to the 'On screen and in literature' section:


[[Minor characters on Frasier#Eddie|Eddie]] played the role of [[Martin Crane|Martin Crane]]'s companion in the acclaimed TV show ''[[Frasier]]'' which was broadcasted on [[NBC]] for eleven seasons, from September 16, 1993, to May 13, 2004, and won 37 prime-time [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] during its 11-year run.




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[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> Fine content, just needs a source. Thanks, [[User:Celestra|Celestra]] ([[User talk:Celestra|talk]]) 15:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:Just to mention that Moose/Enzo who both played Eddie are already mentioned in the second paragraph of the On screen and in literature subsection. [[User:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">Miyagawa</font>]] [[User talk:Miyagawa|<font face="Verdana">(talk)</font>]] 20:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

== Edit request on 17 April 2012 ==
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ref name=Ijackrussell cite book|last=Hughes|title=I,Jack Russell|publisher=Booth-Clibborn|isbn=ISBN-10: 1861543212 ISBN-13: 978-1861543219|url=http://www.abramsbooks.com/Books/I,_Jack_Russell-9781861543219.html
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[[User:Andyhughesurfer|Andyhughesurfer]] ([[User talk:Andyhughesurfer|talk]]) 22:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
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:[[File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please be more specific about what needs to be changed.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''[[User:Elektrik Shoos|<font color="#FFCC66">elektrik</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Elektrik Shoos|<font color="#666666">SHOOS</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Elektrik Shoos|talk]]) 00:06, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
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I, Jack Russell: A photographer and Dog's Eye View. Published by Booth-Clibborn Editions 2012, http://www.abramsbooks.com/Books/I,_Jack_Russell-9781861543219.html -[[User:Andyhughesurfer|Andyhughesurfer]] ([[User talk:Andyhughesurfer|talk]]) 10:33, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

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Please add under the '''On screen and in literature''' the following.
I,Jack Russell is documentary photography book about Jack Russell dogs by the artist and photographer [[Andrew Hughes (photographer)]] and published by [http://www.booth-clibborn.com/ Booth-Clibborn Editions]. It includes texts and contributions by internationally renowned canine experts [http://authors.simonandschuster.com/Alexandra-Horowitz/46971319 Alexandra Horowitz] and [http://www.bris.ac.uk/vetscience/people/john-w-bradshaw/index.html John Bradshaw].


Thank you so much
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I,Jack Russell is documentary photography book about Jack Russell dogs by the artist and photographer [[Andy Hughes|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Hughes_(photographer)]] and published by [http://www.booth-clibborn.com/ Booth-Clibborn Editions]. It includes texts and contributions by internationally renowned canine experts [http://authors.simonandschuster.com/Alexandra-Horowitz/46971319 Alexandra Horowitz] and [http://www.bris.ac.uk/vetscience/people/john-w-bradshaw/index.html John Bradshaw].
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[[User:Andyhughesurfer|Andyhughesurfer]] ([[User talk:Andyhughesurfer|talk]]) 15:18, 30 November 2012 (UTC)thankyou

:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The proposed addition is highly promotional in tone. Even if that were corrected, it doesn't seem to quite fit with the content of the section, which is about fictional dogs or dogs in fictional contexts. Please note that a book about an article's subject isn't necessarily noteworthy even if it's authored by someone who has a Wikipedia article. As a side note, I note that the article [[Andrew Hughes (photographer)]] (incorrectly linked above) lacks any references. [[User:Rivertorch|Rivertorch]] ([[User talk:Rivertorch|talk]]) 06:10, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

== Proposed merge with [[Russell Terrier]] ==

The shorter, stockier "Russell Terrier" lacks clear differentiation from the standard JRT. Most of the development of the Russell Terrier article looks to have been done by owners with partisan promotional interests. There is also a general lack of academic coverage on the subject, resulting in a reliance on copyvio breeder cruft for sourcing. With the 2009 UKC change in designation back to "Jack Russell Terrier" this variation should be a section of an article, not its own article. <font face="copperplate gothic light">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#36454F">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#36454F">talk</span>]])</font> 04:34, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
:I would disagree. These dogs are bred substantially smaller than any JRT's or Parson Russells, as their standard height is 12 in at the most. This is their defining quality as being functional ground dogs where as Parson's were bred for the show circuit as they were concerned with getting a set standard approved over functionality. JRT's have such a large range, their hunting purposes change on how tall the dog actually gets. With a Russell described here, you will get a small, functional terrier that will just about fit into any small hole and not fear going down it. I would rather see more written on this page about them rather than denote them to a JRT subtype. Parsons are their own, why shouldn't Russells be any different. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.34.236.174|108.34.236.174]] ([[User talk:108.34.236.174|talk]]) 00:05, 13 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::You haven't addressed the issues I've laid out. Many people have their own opinion about these dog breeds. Few, if any, of them have proper sources to back that up. The 2009 change by the UKC would seem to indicate that this is not, in fact, its own breed. <font face="copperplate gothic light">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#36454F">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#36454F">talk</span>]])</font> 02:49, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

===Russell terrier has its own breed standard===
The "Russell Terrier" is NOT a subtype of any dog. It has been recognized as a breed in July 2012 by the American Kennel Club.
*Here, the oficial breed AKC standard: http://www.akc.org/breeds/russell_terrier/breed_standard.cfm
*Here, some news about: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/29/russell-terrier-joins-the-list-of-akc-registered-breeds/ http://www.akc.org/press_center/article.cfm?article_id=4684
*Made its debut at the 137th Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/russell-terriers-finally-get-their-turn-in-westminster-spotlight.html?_r=0
http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/breedresults.php?year=2013&breed=russell
Regards <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:Frei sein|—Frei sein]] <small>([[User talk:Frei sein|Talk to me!]])</small></span> 06:25, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Î ŢĦÍÑĶ ṬḤËȲ ŞĤǪǕŁÐ BƐ ṂẼṜĞËĎ Ἣἶ :) <3 u aLL <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/162.127.23.100|162.127.23.100]] ([[User talk:162.127.23.100|talk]]) 18:30, 14 October 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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the two articles contain conflicting information and are therefore confusing and should be merged.

'''russell terrier''' entry states;
The name "Jack Russell Terrier" was never used to describe a breed of dog. Rather, it became a common name for any predominantly-white earth-working terrier after the death of the Reverend John Russell.

whilst the '''jack russel''' entry describes 3 breeds;
The Jack Russell is a broad type, with a size range of 10–15 inches (25–38 cm). The Parson Russell is limited only to a middle range with a standard size of 12–14 inches (30–36 cm), while the Russell terrier is smaller at 8–12 inches (20–30 cm). Each breed has different physical proportions according to the standards of their breed clubs. <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/178.153.100.22|178.153.100.22]] ([[User talk:178.153.100.22|talk]]) 14:19, 6 March 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== I propose a compromise ==

I disagree because the Russel Terrier is a different breed than the Jack Russel Terrier, and therefore deserves to have it's own article. I think that it would be ideal if we made a link on the Jack Russel Terrier page to the Russel Terrier page, and vice versa. --[[Special:Contributions/24.24.177.188|24.24.177.188]] ([[User talk:24.24.177.188|talk]]) 23:19, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

== Half way through 2014 - We need to move forward ==

In my opinion, the Russell Terrier page should be merged into the Jack Russell Terrier page, and the photo needs to be changed. Let me explain why<br>
There are 6 key documents when deciding on the merge and photo change, and these are;<br>
1. The Jack Russell Terrier Club of Great Britain (JRTCGB) breed standard <b>'JACK RUSSELL TERRIER'</b> http://jrtcgb.webs.com/breedstandard.htm<br>
2. The Fédération Cynologique Internationale (FCI) breed standard <b>'JACK RUSSELL TERRIER'</b> http://www.fci.be/Nomenclature/Standards/345g03-en.pdf<br>
3. The United Kennel Club (UKC) breed standard <b>'JACK RUSSELL TERRIER'</b> http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/Breeds/Terrier/JackRussellTerrier01012009<br>
4. The American Kennel Club (AKC) breed standard <b>'RUSSELL TERRIER'</b> http://www.akc.org/breeds/russell_terrier/index.cfm<br>
5. The <b>'JACK RUSSELL TERRIER'</b> Breed Lecture manual / presentation - from Australia http://lionheartjack.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Jack_Russell_Terrier_eng.pdf><br>
6. One <b>'PARSON RUSSELL TERRIER'</b> Breed Standard http://www.parsonrussellterrierclub.co.uk/breed.html<br><br>

When reading sources 1 through 5 you will notice that the characteristic and traits are very much similar, and somewhat different from reference 6. The article should be merged to emphasise the close relation between <b>'JACK RUSSELL TERRIER</b> and <b>'RUSSELL TERRIER'</b>. The merged article should draw on similarities, and if there are small differences these should mentioned as a sub heading. I personally cannot see enough difference in point 5, to justify why it should not be included into point 1 to 4, and therefore one article titled <b>JACK RUSSELL TERRIER</b>, making sure everyone knows that the AKC call it something different<br>

Additonally.. both the RUSSELL TERRIER and the JACK RUSSELL TERRIER are quoting the same FCI standard. Therefore the Russell Terrier should be merged the Jack Russell Terrier

== Please change Photo ==

The image clearly shows a <b>'PARSON RUSSELL TERRIER'</b> type of dog. All the <b>JACK RUSSELL TERRIER</b> standards mentioned above 1 through 6.. all state 10 to 15 inches. The image of the dog is overly long legged, and an image that better reflects the standards 1 through 5 above would be more appropriate.<br>

In addition the standards section below the photo shows FCI, AKC and other references... the image complies with none of these. Jack Russell proportion is 50% leg and 50 body.. as I said its an overly legging image.

:that's the problem with the JRTCGB and FCI calling two clearly different types of dogs by the same name, and the problem with Wikipedia trying to combine them into one article. The JRTCGB breed is more similar to the Parson than it is to what the FCI calls the 'Jack Russell' <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.3.193.222|86.3.193.222]] ([[User talk:86.3.193.222#top|talk]]) 10:47, 7 March 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== External links modified ==

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There are a few sentences in here that aren't written in an accessible style, with the overuse of abbreviations and other random terms that aren't in common usage. A good example is: "The working JRT is required to locate quarry in the earth, and then either bolt it or hold it in place until they are dug to." I have no idea what that sentence actually means. A lack of accessible language is generally the mark of a bad wikipedia article so if someone does understand sentences like this then it would be good to simplify it a bit (e.g. stop calling animals "quarry" for a start, which is a niche hunting term the vast majority of the English-speaking world has never heard of). <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.9.207.43|84.9.207.43]] ([[User talk:84.9.207.43#top|talk]]) 07:20, 22 July 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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[[:Jack Russell Terrier]] → {{no redirect|Jack Russell}} – [[WP:COMMONNAME]] [[User:Kolano123|Kolano123]] ([[User talk:Kolano123|talk]]) 10:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
== Categories in Alphabetical Order or Not? ==
Previously I was told to add categories in alphabetical order. Therefore I wonder if there is any general guideline? --[[User:Canarian|Canarian]] ([[User talk:Canarian|talk]]) 20:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
* '''Oppose'''. The present title is the name used by the Kennel Club, the FCI, and almost all the references in the page. Where's the evidence that the shorter title is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]]?. [[User:Justlettersandnumbers|Justlettersandnumbers]] ([[User talk:Justlettersandnumbers|talk]]) 13:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{replyto|Canarian}} You added the category for dog breeds, in contravention of [[WP:SUBCAT]]. I don't care if they're in alphabetical order, you don't add parent categories. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 20:26, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:: OK, I was previously today told to do the otherwise: I had deleted a lot of parent categories from most of dog breeds, but I was told not to do so - I was critisized of having done "a lot of damage" by it. That's why I have been adding parent categories back. Now I'm pretty confused which way is preferred, as I was just previously guided to keep or add back the category "dog breeds"? (Here's an example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Canarian#Changing_Categories_on_dog_articles] --[[User:Canarian|Canarian]] ([[User talk:Canarian|talk]]) 20:31, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Huh. That's odd. [[User:7&6=thirteen|7&6=thirteen]] is dead wrong. Per [[WP:SUBCAT]]: {{tq|"an article should be categorised as low down in the category hierarchy as possible, without duplication in parent categories above it"}} so you need not take my word for it. He owes you an apology. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 20:46, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::I could be wrong. I find the inclusion of categories to be something like the [[Matryoshka]] principle. And for the readers benefit, I do think that it is better to err on the side of too many categories (too much of the relevant) to too few. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>]] ([[User talk:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]])</span> 20:50, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::If an apology is owed, then one is tendered. I think [[User:Chris troutman|Chris Troutman]] that your demand here is a little over the top. But [[De minimis|de minimus non curat lex]]. Surely we have more consequential matters to dispute over. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>]] ([[User talk:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]])</span> 21:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::[[User:7&6=thirteen|7&6=thirteen]], I don't use a ''de minimis'' standard; I'm in the "each's and every's" business. Attention to detail is a must. Wikipedia is a collaborative project. Adherence to our policies and guidelines (as well as MoS) helps us work together. Editing by our own preferences is corrosive to our collaboration. Reprimanding someone to follow preferences rather than the established rules compounds the problem. I don't want an unhappy interaction with either Canarian or you, which is why I regret what I've been forced to explain in this regard. As I understand that you cede the point, I will let the matter drop. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 22:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::One has to pick their battles. Life is short. [[The Gambler (song)]] comes to mind. I always liked [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo Kenny Rogers's version] via [[YouTube]]. Just sayin... Cheers. <span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">[[User:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b>]] ([[User talk:7&amp;6=thirteen|<b style="color:#000">☎</b>]])</span> 22:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)


:'''Oppose.''' The breed clubs are named the Jack Russell Terrier Club of <America|Canada|Great Britain|etc.> Yes, they're often called "Jack Russells", or just "Jacks", but that's an intentional shorthand, not their name. [[User:Jdege|jdege]] ([[User talk:Jdege|talk]]) 13:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
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:'''Oppose''' per @[[User:Jdege|Jdege]] [[User:Killuminator|Killuminator]] ([[User talk:Killuminator|talk]]) 19:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Kennel: As is well stated in this article Jack Russell Terriers can dig and tunnel. Thus, you probably already figured out that you'll have to put some fencing below ground level. But, what is not mentioned as much in this article is that they are highly intelligent and will climb. They climbed out of our 60 inch fencing and caused problems in the neighborhood. So, if you are considering an outdoor kennel to keep one, pleased be advised (and hopefully pleased that we shared this information with you) that they might just climb right out of their pen. We learned by experience the hard way. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2605:A601:704:9F01:B14D:F46F:DAA5:6C6A|2605:A601:704:9F01:B14D:F46F:DAA5:6C6A]] ([[User talk:2605:A601:704:9F01:B14D:F46F:DAA5:6C6A#top|talk]]) 11:09, 3 November 2018 Evidence or reliable source can be found in this web page from Atascazoo Animal Hospital: https://atascazooanimalhospital.com/client-resources/breed-info/jack-russell-terrier/(UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:'''Oppose''' Zero evidence provided that the short form is the common name. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 20:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:Please find some [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that support your assertion. Your [[WP:NOR|observations and experience]] aren't valid source material. <span class="nowrap" style="font-family:copperplate gothic light;">[[User:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">Chris Troutman</span>]] ([[User talk:Chris troutman|<span style="color:#345">talk</span>]])</span> 12:39, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' even ignoring the common name debacle what makes this the primary topic over Jack Russell himself? [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 20:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
::Jack Russell is not a boy or a man, it's a dog. [[User:Kolano123|Kolano123]] ([[User talk:Kolano123|talk]]) 20:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:::[[Jack Russell]] would disagree [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 20:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. There are plenty of people whose name is Jack Russell. Having the dog breed as the primary topic would only confuse the reader. [[User:JIP|<span style="color: #CC0000;">J</span><span style="color: #00CC00;">I</span><span style="color: #0000CC;">P</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 20:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. While the shortened form most certainly is the common name (in the UK, at least), the person after whom the dog is named and the others on the list are collectively too significant not to disambiguate. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 16:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
*:Maybe consider '''Jack Russell (dog breed)''' as the new title then. [[User:Kolano123|Kolano123]] ([[User talk:Kolano123|talk]]) 16:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
*::Wikipedia prefers natural disambiguation. Terrier is part of the name, serves as a natural disambiguation, is something one might type when looking for the breed, and is commonly recognised. [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 18:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
*:::Well put. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 21:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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Former good articleJack Russell Terrier was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple claims were sourced to a self-published source. I removed the source as it didn't meet the criteria for use and rewrote the health section. Other parts of article remain unsourced. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jack Russell Terrier → Jack Russell – WP:COMMONNAME Kolano123 (talk) 10:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The breed clubs are named the Jack Russell Terrier Club of <America|Canada|Great Britain|etc.> Yes, they're often called "Jack Russells", or just "Jacks", but that's an intentional shorthand, not their name. jdege (talk) 13:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per @Jdege Killuminator (talk) 19:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Zero evidence provided that the short form is the common name. Meters (talk) 20:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose even ignoring the common name debacle what makes this the primary topic over Jack Russell himself? Traumnovelle (talk) 20:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jack Russell is not a boy or a man, it's a dog. Kolano123 (talk) 20:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jack Russell would disagree Traumnovelle (talk) 20:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There are plenty of people whose name is Jack Russell. Having the dog breed as the primary topic would only confuse the reader. JIP | Talk 20:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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